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"Black Hawk Down" again?

01.07.05, 15:46
Hmm, w Mogadishu Amerykanie tez stracili zolnierzy Delta Force, ktorzy poszli
na pomoc zestrzelonym helikopterom... czyzby powtorka? No coz, wojna... :(

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8391112/
U.S. unable to find team after Afghan crash
Ill-fated helicopter was sent to support missing reconnaissance group


• Bodies recovered
June 30: U.S. military officials say the bodies of all 16 service members
killed in the crash of a Chinook helicopter in Afghanistan have been
recovered. NBC’s Jim Miklaszewski reports.

MSNBC News Services
Updated: 9:11 a.m. ET July 1, 2005

KABUL, Afghanistan - U.S. forces remain unable to locate a small U.S.
reconnaissance team that a Special Forces unit was going to support when their
helicopter was shot down, killing all 16 troops aboard, the U.S. military said
on Friday.

“We are using all available assets to find our missing,” U.S. military
spokesman Lt. Col. Jerry O’Hara told reporters.

While U.S. forces do not know the whereabouts of the team, they have no reason
to believe that its members, last heard of shortly before Tuesday afternoon’s
crash, had been killed or captured, U.S. spokesman Colonel Jim Yonts said.

Yonts said he could “not confirm or deny” a claim by Taliban spokesman Abdul
Latif Hakimi that the insurgents executed seven U.S. “spies” before the MH-47
helicopter was shot down in Kunar province bordering Pakistan.

“We do not have eyes on them right now, but there is no reason to believe that
they are dead. If there was proof that they were killed they would be
classified as killed,” he said.

Claim of soldier captured
Hakimi also said a "high-ranking American has been captured in fighting in the
same area as the helicopter went down.”

Yonts said the ill-fated helicopter was sent in after the reconnaissance team
requested support, but it was not at the location when the aircraft arrived.

He said there was no evidence, such as blood, to indicate team members had
been killed, or to suggest they had been captured by al-Qaida insurgents, whom
the military has said it is hunting in Kunar.

Yonts said he could not say how many soldiers were in the team. “It was small
reconnaissance team with a small number of members.”

For his part, Lt. Gen. James Conway, director of operations for the U.S.
military’s Joint Staff, told a Pentagon news briefing on Thursday the ground
troops were “unaccounted for”
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    • wujcio44 Re: "Black Hawk Down" again? 01.07.05, 15:48
      Dobrze im tak. Było się słuchać Osamy.
      • thannatos Re: "Black Hawk Down" again? 01.07.05, 15:57
        Pieprzysz - o ile mozna miec watpliwosci co do inwazji na Irak, Afganistan
        Talibow byl zagrozeniem dla regionu i wylegarnia terrorystow. Pytanie jak to
        zmienic, bo metody obecne chyba nie przynosza oczekiwanych rezultatow.
        Afganczycy sa doskonale przystosowani do walki z okupantem, maja teren po swojej
        stronie i do tego doklada sie islamski fanatyzm - baaardzo niebezpieczna
        kombinacja. Moge podziwiac ducha bojowego Talibow, ale naprawde jestem ostatnim,
        ktory cieszylby sie z porazek USA w Afganistanie.
        • azarel Re: "Black Hawk Down" again? 01.07.05, 16:21
          A ja mowie, ze jednych sa drugich warci i im wiecej sie nawzajem oszolomy
          natluka tym lepiej.
          A powazniej, to Blair powinien byc wysmarowany asfaltem i przegoniony z Londynu
          i Europy. Pamietam jak przed inwazja na Afganistan apelowal bezposrednio do
          Afganczykow "Tym razem nie zostawimy was samych...itd"
          I co? Jedyne momenty, kiedy Bush i lokaj pamietaja o tym kraju, to gdy zginie
          paru zbednych Amerykanow (i w rezultacie przecietny iloraz inteligencji sie
          podnosi na swiecie).
          • wujcio44 Re: "Black Hawk Down" again? 01.07.05, 16:23
            azarel napisał:
            > A powazniej, to Blair powinien byc wysmarowany asfaltem
    • explicit Re: "Black Hawk Down" again? 01.07.05, 17:20
      To jest niepokojace , czyzby ktos ich zaopatrywal w cos podobnego do Stingers ?

      uklony

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      New weapon or grenade?

      Taliban spokesman Abdul Latif Hakimi, whose information has often been
      unreliable, said the guerrillas shot down the helicopter with “a new type of
      weapon” he did not describe.

      Conway said the pilots of a second U.S. aircraft had reported seeing a
      rocket-propelled grenade fired by insurgents at the helicopter and there was
      no indication a more sophisticated ground-to-air system was involved.
      • wujcio44 Re: "Black Hawk Down" again? 01.07.05, 17:22
        explicit napisał:

        > To jest niepokojace , czyzby ktos ich zaopatrywal w cos podobnego do Stingers ?
        >

        Przeca właśnie piszą, że nie. Ustrzelili ich z RPG.
        • explicit Re: "Black Hawk Down" again? 01.07.05, 17:52
          Daj mi jeden powod zebym uwierzyl w to co mowi spokesman Pentagonu ,... Tu masz
          kawalek z innego zrodla .

          uklony

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          The increase in fighting has reinforced concerns that the Afghan war is
          widening, rather than winding down. U.S. and Afghan officials warn things could
          get worse ahead of the parliamentary elections scheduled for September.

          W Afganistanie wszystko cacy twierdzi Rommie ,...

          www.nytimes.com/2005/06/30/international/asia/30afghanistan.html?ex=1120795200&en=4c5084cdb723641d&ei=5070&emc=eta1

          Officials have warned that foreign militants, backed by networks channeling
          them money and arms, had come into Afghanistan to try to subvert the polls.

          • wujcio44 Re: "Black Hawk Down" again? 01.07.05, 17:59
            explicit napisał:

            > Daj mi jeden powod zebym uwierzyl w to co mowi spokesman Pentagonu

            Nie chodzi mi o to czym zestrzelili Chinooka. Chodzi mi o treść cytatu który
            przytoczyłeś.
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