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[lapidus1]

1. strona z magazynu pokładowego linii lotniczych
obnizka cen
w ramach oferty hot autosalon24.pl tuninguje ceny nowych aut. autosalon24.pl/pl#/pl/okazje-cenowe

2. maść przeciwbólowa

[efedra]

Lapidus, gratulacje.
Jak mawia jedna pani - cuś pięknego!

[jarka63]

Jeśli chodzi o maść przeciwbólową, to po raz pierwszy wprowadzono ją na polski rynek pod nazwą oryginalną, Deep Relief. Czy źle się sprzedawała, czy może Polacy nie chcieli o nią prosić w aptece bo nie umieli wymówić nazwy - nie wiadomo, w każdym razie od dość już dawna funkcjonuje jako Dip Rilif właśnie.
Swego czasu mieliśmy polską wersję francuskiego magazynu o urodzie Votre Beaute. Po kilku pierwszych numerach wydawca zdecydował się na umieszczenie w logo obok tytułu również jego zapisu fonetycznego.
Właściwie się nie dziwię. Do tej pory zdarza się, że gdy proszę w kiosku o Elle, pani długo nie wie o co mi chodzi, wreszcie puka się w głowę: "Aaaa, ELE, bardzo proszę".

[republican]

Dear Lapidus

Real linguistic jewels.
Do you recall similar comments I had, citing Kaska from Passaic?
Are we looking at the same language evolution process?

Biutiful, biutiful,

[karul.nowy]

taka polska bezradnosc jezykowa.

Gdzie jest Smutas gdy trzeba bronic dziejowej koniecznosci przenikania angielskiego do jezyka Jerzego Urbana?

[smutas]

Cos sie mnie tak uczepil? Potrzebujesz jakies wsparcie by utwierdzic sie w swojej slusznosci?

Lapidus znalazl swietne przyklady skretynienia. Wielkie brawa! Naprawde swietne przyklady, pokazujace jak >nie powinien< ewoluowac jezyk.

Jednak dywagacje o przyszlosci j polskiego sa dokladnie tym samym co dywagacje o jakiejkolwiek przyszlosci - czyli to sa bezpodstawnymi spekulacjami.

Kazdy jezyk sie zmienia. Nie bardzo wyobrazam sobie np. rozmowy z mieszkancem Krakowa z roku 1384 w j polskim... Najpewniej zrozumial bym tyle co rozmawiajac z Serbem albo w najlepszym wypadku Ukraincem.

[lapidus1]

@efedra: :D myslalam, ze to blad drukarski i przez chwile kombinowalam o co tam moglo chodzic. po chwili dotarlo do mnie i zaniemowilam. cud natury (oby to byl tylko bezplodny mutant)

@jarka: dzieki za wyjasnienie. gdybys kiedys trafila w polskiej prasie na artykul na temat wplywu angielskiego na jezyk polski to podrzuc tu na forum, dobrze?

@republican: the poor girl really got under your skin, hasn't she? ;)

anyway, if you fancy reading about the evolution of language i thoroughly recommend The Unfolding of Language by Guy Deutscher.

from a review: A brilliant and original exploration of how languages evolve and have evolved, comparable to Steven Pinker's The Language Instinct in its accessibility, wit and ambition.

"* "A highly original study of the evolution of language... A brilliant solution to a quandary that has puzzled people for many centuries... If [the] decay and simplification [of language] are constant and universal...how did...regular and complex languages come to exist in the first place? Deutscher's chosen task is to unravel that paradox, and he does so brilliantly, withholding the secret with great skill. If I told you how it works, you wouldn't buy the book. Suffice to say his explanation is both clever and convincing... this book will stretch your mind' Independent on Sunday
* "He really ought to be read...by anyone who persists in complaining that the English language is going to the dogs...interesting and substantial" - Nicholas Bagnal, Sunday Telegraph * 'Powerful and thrilling.' Spectator

[republican]

lapidus1 napisał:

>>
> @republican: the poor girl really got under your skin, hasn't she? ;)
>
Not quite, you contradict yourself, vide:
forum.gazeta.pl/forum/w,517,121989690,122075893,Re_It_s_very_wrong_.html
By the way, I suggest you change your nick to "Verbosa" to reflect your gender and genre.

[lapidus1]

Verbosa? Haha (hollow laughter), guilty! Sadly, being able to be brief and clear is still a challenge.

I disagree about contradicting myself here. (Although I'm only guessing at what you mean - you linked to a very long post).

I'm all in favour of freedom of speech. It doesn't mean that I agree with every view put forward when people exercise their freedom of speech.

I recognise that changes in language are part of a continuous and complex process (definitely not just a modern plague). It doesn't mean that I approve of everything this process can and does throw up.

........

P.S. It's one thing to say 'zbijamy ceny' (ugh) but to turn it into 'zabijamy ceny' is a rubbish idea. Next, to turn it into 'kilujemy ceny' is hardly a vote winner.
Although when I googled 'kiluj' I realised (or realized, as it's becoming popular) that it's quite normal in computer speak to 'kill' an application or something. So maybe IT people do use 'kiluj' in Polish the same way we say 'kliknij'? So ... who knows? (in IT, not in retail!)

P.P.S. Gender, thats another interesting word. I take it you use it in its post-1955 meanining (widespread since the 1970s) but not post-1993 meaning? ;D

[republican]

lapidus1 napisał:

> Sadly, being able to be brief and clea
> r is still a challenge.
In my profession it IS the requirement.
>
> P.P.S. Gender, thats another interest
> ing word. I take it you use it in its post-1955 meanining (widespread sin
> ce the 1970s) but not post-1993 meaning? ;D

You put me on the spot.
I attempted dreamy glass of wine with thee, but got turned down..

>
>
>

[paulski]

Both of you make no sense,
And both of you can't write.
Both of you, you'd better try flying a kite.

[lapidus1]

republican: you have to be brief and clear? Can't be a lawyer then ;)

I did what I had to do. The invitation sounded too dangerous for a no_head_for_alcohol drinker ;)

paulski: thank you so much for your advice. I shall lose no time in following it.

[republican]

Lapidus
You are correct, I am the Engineer (yes THE, five Patents dozens of papers etc.).

[lapidus1]

Wow, that is impressive! Have the patented things been used/applied in real life?

[republican]

lapidus1 napisał:

> Wow, that is impressive! Have the patented things been used/applied in real li
> fe?
Yes in specialized area of computer communication.
Unfortunately rights to these patents have been assigned to my ex-employer.

[lapidus1]

Oh! I had no idea companies could do this. I hope they didn't take you by surprise and the rules were made clear to you from the outset. Otherwise it's as if being good at something is not enough - you need to have a team of lawyers/business guru to back you up.

Anyway, ex-employers belong in the past, especially bad ones. You move on, dig an escape tunnel if you have to, but you move on - older, wiser, free to enjoy your life :)

[republican]

One needs to spend about $5000 to obtain a Patent.
The company pays and the inventor gets $750 award plus diploma suitable for framing.
It looks good on Resume (you Brits call it CV).
One can also brag about it on Gazeta Polska Forum.
PS
Congratulation on silencing Paulski.

[lapidus1]

> The company pays and the inventor gets $750 award plus diploma suitable for framing.
What? At least negotiate the frames!
> One can also brag about it on Gazeta Polska Forum.
The finest.
> PS
> Congratulation on silencing Paulski.
shhh...
(nie wywoluj wilka z lasu)

Has anyone invented a single cable/adapter/charger thingy that would fit any mobile, camera, e-book reader and laptop? I could use one to save myself a lot of annoyance and unsightly pockets when I travel only with hand luggage. (Like I did last time when I spotted the ad from my first post. This thread isn't so off topic after all, phew)

[republican]

lapidus1 napisał:

>
> Has anyone invented a single cable/adapter/charger thingy that would fit any
> mobile, camera, e-book reader and laptop? I could use one to save myself a
> lot of annoyance and unsightly pockets when I travel only with hand luggage. (
> Like I did last time when I spotted the ad from my first post. This thread isn'
> t so off topic after all, phew)
>
It is not the matter of invention, just simple standardization.
You can change traffic in Great Britain to the right, just for starters.
PS
What street in London has the traffic on the right?

[lapidus1]

>standardization
It's high time the techies did something to disentangle people from miles of wretched cables.

You can drive in the right-hand lane in a one-way street, it's up to the driver.
OK, I had to look it up. Savoy Court, how strange. But it's a private road so it doesn't fully count.

[republican]

Well, I tried to impress you, but you are as always one step ahead..
The closest I got to having drink at Savoy was Coal Hole Pub on the Strand.

[lapidus1]

> Well, I tried to impress
Ooo, some say that's exactly when Murphy's Law strikes...

>but you are as always one step ahead..
I can write what I know about technical stuff on the back of a post stamp and still have room to spare.

Having said that, I'll quit this thread while I'm ahead ;)

[republican]

OK Verbosa
It may interest you:
www.polityka.pl/kultura/aktualnoscikulturalne/1515752,1,wyzwania-dzisiejszej-polszczyzny.read

[lapidus1]

:P
Thanks, Republican! I've only just seen your post, it's too late for me to read the whole article now but I'll read it tomorrow.

[mudzyn7]

It's a real privilege and a pleasure to read your conversation guys.

[republican]

Boundless erudition (Lapidus) and humbleness (myself)
Takie te ciarachy tworde, trza by stoc i walic w morde.

[mudzyn7]

Boundless erudition no kidding!