ścisłe zarachowanie po angielsku?

[hopik]

i cant find this phrase in my dictionaries. if someone knows, please help me.

strict accounting

[nibyktos]

if i am not mistaken as to what that means in Polish.

Eg. "All service firearms must be stricly acounted for."

[Gość: hopik]

i am afraid not... it is more to do with accounting.

[deadeasy]

scisle zarachowanie - co to jest po polsku? tak "lopatologicznie"?

czy to chodzi o druki scislego zarachowania?
:)

[Gość: hopik]

tak tak!! własnie sprawdzila i cala fraza brzmi druki ścislego zarachowania.
wiesz jak to?

[deadeasy]

ja bym "wymodzila"
forms of strict/high accountability
highly accountable?

to z tego, ze cos moze nie byc "accounted for" tzn. "missing", "nie byc", "byc
pominietym".
:)

wg słownika Kościuszkowskiego...

[amused.to.death]

zarachowanie - calculation
druki ścisłego zarachowania - calculation forms

[i.p.freely]

amused.to.death napisała:

> zarachowanie - calculation
> druki ścisłego zarachowania - calculation forms
>

Hehehe - calculated reaction on my part.

Accounting forms - is correct. However, the ones you are asking about are
numbered. The term for is ..... damn, I can't recall.

[Gość: hopik]

please stop teasing me! please say you remember!

[i.p.freely]

Accounting Log (Forms)???
Some forms have to be logged and some ... not. Any activity that HAS to be
accounted for is usually LOGGED on a daily ledger.

[Gość: tym]

Forms that are controlled and numbered are called accountable forms.

[pl] druk ścisłego zarachowania

[ktul.shystalker]

[en] controlled (pre)numbered form

[hopik]

no i co ja mam teraz wybrac? komu uwierzyc?

[Gość: zen]

Controlled because the access to them and the circulation of them is somehow
controlled.
Numbered is better than pre-nubmered. Numbered pre-what? (Book pages are
numbered rather than pre-numbered.)
Accountable because all of them should be accounted for.

[justa_79]

to ostatnie chyba nie bardzo - w googlach tylko 2(!) wyniki dla prenumbered i 4
dla numbered ;)

calculation forms wyglądają raczej na jakieś druki do kalkulacji.

accounting log forms - zero wyników.

Accounting Log - w jakichś technicznych kontekstach.

accountable forms - też niedużo wyników, niecałe 800, za to wydaje się
trafione - w tekstach urzędowo-finansowych.

[ktul.shystalker]

"accountable forms" [a.k.a "accountable documents", within
some strong contexts] is the (so-to-speak-) nativest option.

i believe that "pre-numbered forms" carry some larger notion
than "accountable forms", the latter related to money, funds,
cheques, and - yes - accounting etc.
in other words, some pre-numbered forms probably are not
accountable forms, while not vice versa. but you might need
a native expert's opinion on that.

when it comes to understanding, "accountable forms" may mean
little, or be misleading, even to native speakers. that's why
I personally choose "pre-numbered forms" as more illustrative.
(adding "controlled" from time to time)

bestests

to Justa_79

[ktul.shystalker]

justa_79 napisała:

> to ostatnie chyba nie bardzo - w googlach tylko 2(!) wyniki
> dla prenumbered i 4 dla numbered ;)

Justa, do we use the same googles? 8-o
(BTW, the results for "prenumbered forms" differ from those
for "pre-numbered forms".)

[justa_79]

Podana fraza - "controlled pre-numbered form" - nie została odnaleziona.
jeszcze lepiej :)

[skipatrol]

right track. Actually there is such an animal as pre-numbered or prenumbered
accounting form - I've seen it spelled both ways.

All prenumbered forms must be accounted for by the unit using them.
Forms with "goofups" are not discarded, but are voided and kept subject to the
provisions of an audit records. The unit head is responsible for ensuring that
the number sequences of prenumbered forms are recorded for control purposes.

And to Justa - instead of google.pl try google.com next time.

[justa_79]

wystarczy zaznaczyć właściwa opcję :P
Szukaj w Internecie, A NIE: Szukaj na stronach kategorii: Polski - wyniki są
identyczne dla stron www.google.pl i www.google.com!
wiadomo, że jak się pominie słowo: controlled, to uzyskamy więcej wyników!
sprawdź sobie cały zwrot podany wcześniej, a nie tylko ostatnie 2 wyrazy.
ale nieważne, bez słowa controlled i tak wyniki oscylują wokół 100 trafień.
może to rzadka forma druków w krajach anglojęzycznych? ;)

[o/t] well, Justa, I see your point only too well

[ktul.shystalker]

yet don't be _too_ proud of this lexological terror you have trusted

for the result for "ścisłe zarachowanie" is 4, say: four, hits,
this thread included. not to mention my girlfriend wrote a thesis
on this writer called Raymond Chandler. and guess what, a / the
"writer called Raymond Chandler" does not exist! (says google)!

the bestests to ye :)

[Gość: zyk]

Now go write yourself a Polish-Shyskalkerish "lexological" dictionary.

[o/t] Zyk

[ktul.shystalker]

Gość portalu: zyk napisał(a):
> Now go write yourself a Polish-Shyskalkerish "lexological" dictionary.

And your point is? To what end should I write a dictionary like that?

PS. The word "lexological" (rhyming with "technological") does exist.
Because I used it. Google supports me with 4 hits. Try "mithridatised"
then. That's _my_ point (though presented somewhat covertly). Bestests.

[Gość: Zyk]

Google doesn't shy away from many things usually not done in public--picking
its nose, farting, and belching noisily included--more than four times a
search.
And what, pray tell, would the "lexicological" terror really mean? Wouldn't you
rather lose the –cologi- part?

[o/t] Zyk

[ktul.shystalker]

My first (sub)point is: I get the impression that some people could be
capable of turning down a suggested equivalence just because there are
fewer corroborative Google-hits than expected. That's how Google exerts
"terror" on some. IMO, Google can't deserve to be called a "lexicological"
tool. It serves as some more-or-less falsifying fruequence-checker, that
is all I'd credit to it. For now, at least.

My second (sub)point is: dictionaries can't be trusted blindly. The
truism goes a dictionary is solely a set of reflections of its authors'
idiolects. Unfortunately, some people think of dictionaries as of some
ultimate god-sent sources of info. If you should be the case, it would
be unwise to urge me to write my own dictionary. 'Cause if I wrote one,
you could feel pressed to take my lexemes / entries for granted.

Plus a word of explanation: my sentence started "don't be too proud..."
was an (obvious, meseemed) travesty of Darth Vader's (famous, meseemed)
line. I sent one syllable away to keep myself within the original rhytm
pattern. Apparently I was wrong in my meseem's and brought about some
confusion. All I can do now is apologize, as Captain Needa once did.

Peace and bestests to ye.