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IP: 66.42.91.* 28.09.02, 04:50
Any of you think that we should tolerate this ?
Why don't we press Jews in Poland to try to influence Israel (babykillers) ?



Soldier killed boy in cold blood, say British volunteers

Jonathan Steele
Tuesday September 24, 2002
The Guardian

A 13-year-old Palestinian boy was deliberately shot dead by an Israeli
soldier without any provocation, say two British human rights volunteers who
witnessed the incident.
An Israeli army spokesman confirmed last night that an inquiry had been
launched.
"I was with three other international volunteers in a street in Nablus on
Sunday with Baha Albahsh, who often tags along with us," said one of the
witnesses, who gave his first name as Al. "There had been some stone-
throwing at tanks and armored personnel carriers which enforce the curfew.
It happens frequently and our practice is to stand at the side to observe.
We always make sure the Israelis see us, and we don't stand with the kids as
it can encourage them."
He said the incident appeared to be over and people had dispersed when an
armored personnel carrier stopped nearby. "I heard a single shot, and Baha
was lying on the ground, his eyes glazed and blood starting to come out of
his mouth. It was clear he had no chance. An ambulance came within two
minutes and he died in it. A high-velocity bullet had destroyed his left
lung."
Al, who declined to give his surname because of the problems he says
volunteers face at the airport when they leave Israel, has been working in
Nablus for about six weeks.
"This is the worst thing I've seen in my time here. Actually, it's the worst
thing I've seen in my life. There was no way Baha could have been a threat
to a soldier 120 yards away with a flak jacket and a helmet and sitting in
an APC. He had nothing in his hands and even if he'd had a stone he could
not have thrown it effectively from that distance. I went back today and
measured the distance exactly. The shot was not a ricochet. As far as I'm
concerned, these people are child-killers, whether or not they were aiming
at the boy. There was no reason to shoot."
Another of the four volunteers, Ewa Jasiewics, 24, from London, said: "An
armored personnel carrier came and stopped on the left of the street. A
soldier popped up from inside. I saw him with his rifle and he aimed at some
kids on the street. There was no stone-throwing or shooting going on at the
time."
She said that in a month spent with Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza
Strip she had often seen soldiers train gun sights on people without further
incident. "This time was different. This soldier fired. It wasn't
accidental. The soldiers decided to kill him."
An Israeli spokesman said that the army was trying to establish what
happened: "The first assessment was that an army patrol saw a child lighting
a firebomb which then set him on fire. But until we can have better
information I cannot comment."
A doctor at Rafidia hospital in Nablus said a bullet, which entered through
the shoulder and penetrated his chest, killed the teenager.
Nablus suffered the worst destruction of any West Bank city during the
Israeli army's re-occupation this spring, and it has been under almost
constant curfew since June 21: children are unable to attend school and
shops are shut.
The International Solidarity Movement brings volunteers to live and work
among Palestinians to try to act as a restraint on Israeli forces - even
providing a human shield for Palestinians. Volunteers are often detained and
deported.


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    • Gość: erwas Re: FIREWORKS !!! IP: 12.96.204.* 28.09.02, 05:40
      Gość portalu: Sam napisał(a):

      > Any of you think that we should tolerate this ?
      > Why don't we press Jews in Poland to try to influence Israel (babykillers) ?

      right, that will fix the Middle East problem.

      erwas
      • Gość: wagner Re: FIREWORKS !!! IP: 66.242.164.* 29.09.02, 05:12
        Gość portalu: erwas napisał(a):

        > Gość portalu: Sam napisał(a):
        >
        > > Any of you think that we should tolerate this ?
        > > Why don't we press Jews in Poland to try to influence Israel (babykillers)
        > ?
        >
        > right, that will fix the Middle East problem.
        >
        > erwas

        You, erwas (jude) f. you, you are the same like the "soldiers" of "israel" :)
        Chickens, babykillers, terrorists and biggest kriminals of the world ...
        I can bet that you are bold homosexual ... LOL :):):)
        • Gość: together Re: FIREWORKS !!! IP: *.nyc.rr.com 29.09.02, 08:52
          Why don't Palestinians living in Poland influence those living in Palestine to
          stop blowing up innocent people in Israel. The answer is simple. There are no
          innocent Jews in the eyes of Arabs. So maybe it is time to stop posting this
          kind of gibberish.
          And for Sam and wagner I have one two words: stop the bullshit.

          • Gość: erwas Re: FIREWORKS !!! IP: 12.96.204.* 29.09.02, 17:52
            together, thanks for your defence, but it's true, you know. I am a hairless,
            homosexual, Kriminal poultry-terrorist, infant slaughtering Jew. perceptive guy
            that wagner.

            greetings

            erwas
            • Gość: Wagner Re: FIREWORKS !!! IP: *.ftb.ca.gov 04.10.02, 23:07
              Gość portalu: erwas napisał(a):

              > together, thanks for your defence, but it's true, you know. I am a hairless,
              > homosexual, Kriminal poultry-terrorist, infant slaughtering Jew. perceptive
              guy
              >
              > that wagner.
              >
              > greetings
              >
              > erwas


              can you send us your picture ?????

              See below, your friends in action ...

              Israeli Troops Kill Palestinian Teen
              Fri Oct 4, 2:50 PM ET
              By STEVE WEIZMAN, Associated Press Writer
              JERUSALEM (AP) - Israeli troops shot and killed a Palestinian teenager and
              gravely wounded a 12-year-old in West Bank violence Friday, while police fired
              stun grenades in the main mosque compound in Jerusalem after a few Muslim
              worshippers threw rocks that fell on Jews praying at the Western Wall below.


              Fifteen-year-old Mohammed Zeid was standing outside his house watching other
              youths hurl rocks at an Israeli army patrol in the village of Nazlat Zeid when
              the troops opened fire, witnesses said. They said Zeid was hit in the thigh by
              a stray bullet. He died in a hospital in the nearby West Bank town of Jenin.
              The Israeli military said troops seeking to impose a curfew on the village were
              attacked by rioters and fired in the air to disperse them. It confirmed that a
              youth was killed.
              In the city of Nablus, hospital officials said 12-year-old Ibrahim Madani was
              in serious condition with a gunshot wound to the head. Witnesses said troops
              shot him near the Askar refugee camp, where he was walking in breach of an
              Israeli military curfew. The army said it was unaware of that incident, but it
              said an Israeli soldier was seriously wounded by Palestinian gunfire in Nablus.
              In Jerusalem, police said about 50 officers entered the Al Aqsa Mosque
              compound, known to Jews as the Temple Mount, the most hotly contested site in
              the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The police fired stun grenades to disperse
              several dozen youths who had thrown rocks toward officers at an entrance to the
              compound. Some rocks fell on Jews worshipping at the Western Wall below.
              No injuries or damage were reported.
              Police said Islamic authorities calmed the crowd and Muslim worshippers began
              to leave the area — the holiest site in Judaism and the third-holiest in Islam.
              Both Arabs and Israelis have acted with relative restraint at the complex in
              recent months, despite an uprising by Palestinians against Israel that began
              Sept. 28, 2000, with Arab protests over a visit to the site by now-Prime
              Minister Ariel Sharon ( news - web sites).
              Leaflets distributed earlier in Arab parts of Jerusalem had urged worshippers
              at Friday prayer services to demonstrate against a U.S. congressional measure
              that urged recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital.
              Palestinian witnesses said they heard no chants or slogans from the small
              number of youths who threw stones immediately after the end of prayers. The Al
              Aqsa mosque preacher on Friday, Yousef Abusnineh, had denounced the U.S.
              measure, although President Bush ( news - web sites) had said he would not
              enact the clauses on Jerusalem as he signed the bill on Monday.
              In the Gaza Strip ( news - web sites), about 3,000 protesters marched through
              the Jabalya refugee camp on Friday against the U.S. legislation and 2,000
              others marched through nearby Gaza City. Several hundred masked men, some
              wearing headbands reading "martyr in waiting," took part in the Jabalya march.
              Meanwhile, there was a flurry of diplomatic activity aimed at ending the
              Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
              Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres met in Tel Aviv with U.S. ambassador
              Daniel Kurtzer and other representatives of the so-called quartet of Middle
              East peacemakers, which also include the European Union ( news - web sites),
              United Nations ( news - web sites) and Russia. The European Union announced
              that top foreign affairs and defense official Javier Solana would begin a
              Mideast tour on Sunday.
              The Israeli defense ministry said Solana would meet Defense Minister Binyamin
              Ben-Eliezer in Jerusalem on Sunday. An EU official said Solana would also visit
              Sharon in Jerusalem, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat ( news - web sites) in
              his West Bank headquarters, Jordan's King Abdullah in Amman and Egyptian
              President Hosni Mubarak ( news - web sites) in Cairo.
              The foreign ministry said Peres told Kurtzer, U.N. envoy Terje Roed-Larsen,
              Russia's Andrei Vdovin and EU representative Christian Jouret that he favored a
              speedy renewal of talks with the Palestinians aimed at a cease-fire and
              restarting stalled peace negotiations.
              At Arafat's Ramallah headquarters, adviser Nabil Abu Rdeineh, called on the
              quartet to press Israel to obey a recent Security Council resolution calling
              for Israel to withdraw from Palestinian cities,
              Palestinian officials said Finance Minister Salam Fayad would leave for
              Washington Sunday for talks with Secretary of State Colin Powell ( news - web
              sites), National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice ( news - web sites), members
              of Congress and international financial officials.



              • Gość: together Re: FIREWORKS !!! IP: *.nyc.rr.com 06.10.02, 18:01
                Gosc wagner napisal:
                "police fired STUN grenades in the main mosque compound in Jerusalem AFTER a
                few Muslim worshippers threw rocks that fell on Jews praying at the Western
                Wall below."

                Stun grenade is not a lethal weapon. It's meant to stun not to kill.
                The incident occured AFTER jews were atttacked. Poor Palestinians brought it on
                themselves. The moral is:
                Don't throw the stones as they may come back to hurt you.
          • Gość: Prezes Re: FIREWORKS !!! IP: *.ces.clemson.edu 07.10.02, 20:06
            Gość portalu: together napisał(a):

            > Why don't Palestinians living in Poland influence those
            living in Palestine to
            > stop blowing up innocent people in Israel. The answer
            is simple. There are no
            > innocent Jews in the eyes of Arabs.

            All Jews I know are absolutely convinced
            that there are no innocent Arabs ...

            >So maybe it is time to stop posting this
            > kind of gibberish.
            > And for Sam and wagner I have one two words: stop the
            bullshit.
            >
            • Gość: SAM Re: FIREWORKS !!! IP: 66.242.173.* 09.10.02, 06:15
              Gość portalu: Prezes napisał(a):

              > Gość portalu: together napisał(a):
              >
              > > Why don't Palestinians living in Poland influence those
              > living in Palestine to
              > > stop blowing up innocent people in Israel. The answer
              > is simple. There are no
              > > innocent Jews in the eyes of Arabs.
              >
              > All Jews I know are absolutely convinced
              > that there are no innocent Arabs ...
              >
              > >So maybe it is time to stop posting this
              > > kind of gibberish.
              > > And for Sam and wagner I have one two words: stop the
              > bullshit.

              If you prefer to be selective when comes to news, your business …
              All I know is what I red in the article and posted it so people who didn’t
              have a chance to see it, will find some truth in the propaganda world created
              by media.
        • Gość: together Re: FIREWORKS !!! IP: *.nyc.rr.com 06.10.02, 17:48
          Stop loling. GFY.
          • Gość: mishy the Jewish matters IP: 5.2.1R* / *.chimpanzee.dialup.pol.co.uk 08.10.02, 00:48
            Has anyone of you actually been there?
            And by the way what does a blond-haired, blue eyed, 10th plus
            generation, "so-called Jew" in Poland got to do with the religion fueled
            "tribal violence" in Israel?
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