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English "a must" for gov. positions

IP: *.proxy.aol.com 29.09.02, 07:44
Despite to the "Americanizaton" of Poland still very few Polish governement
officials can use English language efficiently. This is a major disadvantage
for Poland as a whole.. especially when Poland has to come up with english
speaking Poles to fill positions of polish reps. for EU and other
international institution.

Poland's president Kwasniewski tries hard and we should give him credit for
trying to speak english when hosting foreign heads of state. Now, Walesa
still struggle with Polish, so no need to expect him to speak a foreign
tounge.
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    • Gość: Sir Mixalot Re: English 'a must' for gov. positions IP: *.poznan.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 29.09.02, 10:42
      Sar.... I don't want to sound like I'm criticising Poles again - I know you're
      a bit touchy about anyone asking questions they would genuinely like an answer
      to but...

      How do you think history will see Wałęsa? I very much doubt that, after
      explaining his role in the transformation, the footnote will state "nie chcem,
      ale muszem". What do you think?

      • Gość: Wojtek Re: English 'a must' for gov. positions IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 29.09.02, 14:51
        Yep. History in general is kinder than people. Besides, Walesa is Cicero when
        compared to Dubya.
        • Gość: h\ Re: English 'a must' for gov. positions IP: *.acn.waw.pl 30.09.02, 00:19
          huh? who`s Dubya?
          • Gość: erwas Re: English 'a must' for gov. positions IP: 12.96.204.* 30.09.02, 01:05
            Gość portalu: h\ napisał(a):

            > huh? who's Dubya?

            like Wojtek said, he's no Cicero or, I might add, even cicerone. some say he's
            a smirking chimp. I think he's probably the up and coming Master of the
            Universe (or at least of its non-renewable recources)

            erwas

            • Gość: Wojtek Re: English 'a must' for gov. positions IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 30.09.02, 08:21

              I know I can count on you, erwas - why Dubya? While 'shrub' is self expl. -
              can't figure out Dubya?
              Regards.
          • Gość: Sar6092 Re: English 'a must' for gov. positions IP: *.proxy.aol.com 01.10.02, 04:46
            Gość portalu: h\ napisał(a):

            > huh? who`s Dubya?
            >
            In english letter "W" is spelled double-u, because it looks like double U. And
            since the current US president's name differs only with the letter W. in the
            middle. George w. Bush- His nick name is "Dabya"
            • Gość: erwas Re: English 'a must' for gov. positions IP: 12.96.204.* 01.10.02, 05:22
              Gość portalu: Sar6092 napisał(a):


              > In english letter "W" is spelled double-u, because it looks like double U.
              And
              > since the current US president's name differs only with the letter W. in the
              > middle. George w. Bush- His nick name is "Dabya"

              no, sorry Sarge.
              Dubya is called Dubya because he has a speech impediment which prevents him
              from calling a W a W. instead it comes out dubya.

              erwas
      • Gość: Sar6092 Re: English 'a must' for gov. positions IP: *.proxy.aol.com 01.10.02, 04:32
        Mixalot,
        I think Walensa did his job and he should have left politics in early 90'ies
        right after his mission of helping to end the communist rule was completed.
        Times have changed since than and now, Polish politicians should be highly
        educated and ethical men (or women)...
        • Gość: Sir Mixalot Re: English 'a must' for gov. positions IP: *.poznan.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 01.10.02, 09:08
          Ok, I agree about Wałęsa leaving politics - maybe he should have, but I still
          can't see that many ethical politicans in Poland these days - Don't take that
          as a criticism of Poland, cos it's clearly the same everywhere , Blair being a
          great example. I remember the 1995 presidential election here and how
          Kwaśniewski was found out - you remember him claiming to have a Master's? It's
          probably not relevant now as he seems to have been doing a fairly decent job.
          But my point is still that it's very fashionable to pick up on Wałęsa's
          linguistic limitations and overlook his positive role. Now Dubya is a different
          case....
          • Gość: Wojtek Re: English 'a must' for gov. positions IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 01.10.02, 09:18
            Could you, please, substanciate a little that bit on Blair being a great
            example of unethical actions, Sir?
            • Gość: Wojtek Re: English 'a must' for gov. positions IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 01.10.02, 11:31
              Pulling out! I am now ashamed of my previous post. And not for that silly
              spelling mistake. You are right, SirMixalot. How could he do this? I am talking
              about International Criminal Court. EU finally agreed to exempt American
              soldiers and officials from that court's jurisdiction (shame on EU!), because
              of UK's (and Italy's) pressure. Blair, in other words, agreed to immunity for
              the war criminals as long as they are Americans! That's low.
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