Gość: mgr Wypych IP: *.nyc.rr.com 12.11.02, 21:00 What would you like to know? Ask and I'll answer to the best of my ability. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś Obserwuj wątek Podgląd Opublikuj
Gość: chickenShorts Re: O.J. Simpson special for ChickenShorts IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 12.11.02, 22:36 Gość portalu: mgr Wypych napisał(a): > What would you like to know? Ask and I'll answer to the best of my ability.< I would like to know what kind of Justice is being 'done' by the judicial system allowing obviously guilty O.J. Simpson to walk free... and generally finding American 'loaded' celebrities 'not-guilty'. But then, do I really...? It's also the role of the few guys from Supreme Court 'helping' Bush in Florida, that begs few questions but that's political and therefore see the other thread... No emotions. It was you, who 'threw your arms up',remember? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: mgr Wypych Re: O.J. Simpson special for ChickenShorts IP: *.nyc.rr.com 12.11.02, 23:15 High power people and celebrities escape harsh punishment in US courts. True or false. Somewhere in between. Ivan Boesky and Leona Helmsley are good examples of harsher treatment, as Lizzy Grubman is not. O.J. is a totally different case. First it took place in California the most liberal state. The presiding judge was soft from the get go and shortly after lost control. The prosecuting team was no match to Shapiro, Bailey, Scheck and foremost the star of that BS, the one and only, Johnnie Cochran. He played the race card dealt from the bottom of the deck. And on top of this there was a Jury. 12 men and women. Only one white and 11 others. I guess the white guy just gave up. To this day most of blacks believe in O.J's innocence. Don't forget who O.J. was. He was idolized. Now I try to dissect the 2000 election for you. After counting all the votes in Florida, Bush came ahead by about 2000 votes. This triggered the automatic recount, as it is required by law. Gore was 1500 votes short of carrying the state. Then he and his team cooked a story about voters' errors and demanded hand recount in three, heavily democratic counties. Facing that possibility the Bush team moved to stop the hand recount in the Court of Appeals. In meantime, the recount begun. After the first hand recount Al Gore did not amass enough votes to put Florida in his box. So they demanded another recount. Florida's Supreme Court allowed it to happen, but Chief Justice and the other judge descended. Shortly after the verdict The Supreme Court of the United States voting 7:2 stopped the recount. The next day they vacated the Florida's Supreme Court order voting 5:4. Not even once Al Gore had more votes than Bush. Ask yourself what is "safe harbor" and "equal protection clause" and you'll have the answer. Those were the basis for the verdict. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: chickenShorts Re: O.J. Simpson special for ChickenShorts IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 12.11.02, 23:24 Hey, you seem to have all the answers ready. That's OK, but have actually read that page with all the 'left hand' entries on that link i sent on Pol. Language? Really? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: mgr Wypych Re: O.J. Simpson special for ChickenShorts IP: *.nyc.rr.com 12.11.02, 23:42 No I haven't read it. I was the eyewitness to those events. I remember them as they were happening. Do you know that in 1960 the similar election controversy occured in Illinois. Nixon was the one who lost and against the advise of his team he did not demand the recount. He foresaw the negative consequences had he came short. The biggest sin Al Gore commited is cracking te foundation of the system. He will never be a president. He is politically dead, a cadaver. Although I am a conservative I see myself voting for someone like Kennedy. Not Clinton, not Gore, not Carter, not Johnson. Yes to Truman. Making it more interesting - not for Dole. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: chickenShorts Re: O.J. Simpson special for ChickenShorts IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 13.11.02, 00:15 Look, if you were an 'eyewitness to those events' than I am an eyewitness to the evidence and its interpretation of my choice and I call him an un-elected president, OK? And it is not because of Gore, for whom I couldn't care less... Anyway, carry on with 'cloture and filibuster', I am quite interested. I'm off to bed now. G'night. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: m elected or not... IP: proxy / *.cougar.dialup.pol.co.uk 13.11.02, 03:30 ..we will probably find out in about 40yrs time, that's for the immortals.. (Err, have you forsaken us? ) but obviously quite an asshole: "Dear George, Are you functionally illiterate, are you an alcoholic?'" ..from "Stupid White Men" by M.Moore ..and so on , he has covered up his various arrests ( for drunk driving, theft, etc.) and all the people in his administration who are now secretaries of state who are meant to regulate industries in which they have worked and which they have (and continue to have) made a profit from eg oil, spoiling the Alaskan wilderness etc. Wojciech, you are a helluva chick, keep your **** on and'ave a little read www.msnbc.com/news/826341.asp?cp1=1 Anyway, there was/is plenty of idiots in politics. Why do we bother voting? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: m DYNASTY IP: proxy / *.cougar.dialup.pol.co.uk 13.11.02, 03:58 What's the great honour in being an elect if you can just inherit a throne? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: erwas not... IP: 12.96.204.* 13.11.02, 04:05 Gość portalu: m napisał(a): > (Err, have you forsaken us? ) no, but, you know, like it's hard, man. first it's the responsibilities. then it's the encumbrances. then it's the emergency alteration of priorities. then the total immersion in a world of wonder beyond telling. you know, that kind of thing. erwas Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: m ouija board.. IP: webcacheH* / *.chameleon.dialup.pol.co.uk 13.11.02, 15:20 ..and headless chickens to summon thee.. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś