CAN I CONSIDER MYSELF POLISH?

[Gość: CRUSHED]

Both parents Polish, Polish born, fluent in Polish .
BUT
US citizen, spent entire adult life in the US, family (younger siblings, hubby, kids)
speak no Polish, US educated.
I have always considered myself Polish, yet today my own dad told me (on his 70th
birthday, in front of people!) I would not be able to fully comprehend an issue
(personal, long story) because I am too American. I am crushed. Am I Polish?

[Gość: chickenShorts]

Gość portalu: CRUSHED napisał(a):

> Both parents Polish, Polish born, fluent in Polish .
> BUT
> US citizen, spent entire adult life in the US, family (younger siblings,
hubby,
> kids)
> speak no Polish, US educated.
> I have always considered myself Polish, yet today my own dad told me (on his
70
> th
> birthday, in front of people!) I would not be able to fully comprehend an
issue
>
> (personal, long story) because I am too American. I am crushed. Am I Polish?<

Are you really?... crushed, I mean?!? And if so, why?... How good a feeling
was that, for somebody living in the US of A? A safety niche?


"always considered myself Polish"... - first of all? foremost? only as far as
nationalities go?


And now you've been told, you...
"would not be able to fully comprehend an issue
(personal, long story) because I am too American."!!! Gee! Are you sure your
dad wasn't just letting a bit of his own bitterness out?... Seems to me to be
the case. After all, who's to tell wether you are Polish or not? What are the
criteria apart from the obvious, the 'beaurocratic'? C'mon, don't feel crushed!

You are as Polish as you want to be!

On the other hand, to understand some ('personal, long story') issue regarding
family issues of 'long standing' within the Polish 'twisted' context may
require something other than the 'Polish mind'?
What does it mean to be 'too American'? Too narrow minded? or too open minded?

take it easy! it's all... in the mind!

[Gość: zyrafik]

well, even if youre really too American you still can be Polish, cant you?
your dad didnt say that you were too American to be Polish, did he? and
besides you still might be Polsih being American...

[Gość: erwas]

Gość portalu: chickenShorts napisał(a):

> take it easy! it's all... in the mind!

easy for you to say.
this is no comfort to someone who has cearly lost his mind.

[Gość: awalk]

Gość portalu: erwas napisał(a):

> Gość portalu: chickenShorts napisał(a):
>
> > take it easy! it's all... in the mind!
>
> easy for you to say.
> this is no comfort to someone who has cearly lost his mind.
>
What's more important she has also lost her national identity which we have
been fighting for so hard. Now imagine that in 25 years or more, after joining
the EU, elderly people in Poland will say to their children in front of other
people: "You are too European to comprehend the issue". Will that be the cause
for despair or perhaps on the contrary - too good to be true. What do you
think? :)

[Gość: chickenShorts]

Gość portalu: awalk napisał(a):

> What's more important she has also lost her national identity which we have
> been fighting for so hard. Now imagine that in 25 years or more, after
joining
> the EU, elderly people in Poland will say to their children in front of other
> people: "You are too European to comprehend the issue". Will that be the
cause
> for despair or perhaps on the contrary - too good to be true. What do you
> think? :)

All right, all right... But answer me just this: what has the bloody Europe
ever done for us, eh???

[Gość: awalk]

Gość portalu: chickenShorts napisał(a):

> All right, all right... But answer me just this: what has the bloody Europe
> ever done for us, eh???

I am not a historian, so I won't answer your question and anyway I don't think it's worth the time. But the more important issue is: what are we going to get from them now? and even more imkportant, what are we going to do once we get it?. And it is what I am scared of.

[glory]

For once I agree with chcikenShort!
What Europe has done for us?
They (USA) only asking for moral support!
Good old USA don't really care if Europe will join them to get rid of Suddam

[chickenshorts]

Ha ha ha...

I was merely ref. to 'Liberation Front of Judea' & its struggle against Roman
oppression! - John Cleese & al. you wallies!... It's Monty Python time!

Personally, I think... for Poland, Europe is much much better than... the
other way round.

[glory]

he, he - good one !
chickenShort have you ever shagg someone on a washing maschine?

[Gość: chickenShorts]

glory napisał:

> he, he - good one !
> chickenShort have you ever shagg someone on a washing maschine?


Nah!...

... but I shagged a Washing mashine when I had a gallon of your 'best buy'
petrol in me!
...so, be careful, you don't go into spin mode, M!

[glory]

Best buy!!
chickenShort. Please!!
Just get on with subject. And I bet when you have sex with girl ( I hope so.
If not geee God please help me !!)you try to shoving her knickers into her
fanny at the same time when you fucking her?

[chickenshorts]

glorious,

I don't know what you are talking about?...
I've married in church (RK!!!) and she wore lillies and I promised her to never
soil that whiteness... ooh, and I haven't even seen my wife's underwear... Our
children (6) are all God's gift and stop you talk dirty in my presence...
In fact, piss off you dirty devil...

report to erwas, he misses you a lot (see 'bye, bye' thread)