Szukam...

[Gość: Mosze]

Czy moze ktos proponowac gdzie Sad-Dam schowal BMR. Potrzeba wziasc pod uwage
ze on przyszykowal sie juz od dlugiego czasu. Zrobimy tutaj "a brain storm"
(nie wiem jak to po polsku).

Ja podejrzewam tylko jedno, ze on mial i ukryl dobrze tak ze nawet ani grama
waglika i VX i innej cholery nie ma. Sam potwierdzil ze mial, to gdzie
wlasciwie wszystko podzialo sie...?

...ale on oczyscil wszystko za dobrze t.z. ze ma!!!

Kilka dni temu Australijske kommando znalezli 51 Migow w bardzo dobrym stanie
na zachodnim Iraku dobrze ukrytych.

Tez znalezione niedaleko Bagdadu 3 wieziena podziemne...!!!
Pelne z politycznymi wiezniami. Ich szczescie ze Amerykanie na czas przyszli
i zamkneli krany, bo juz byli otwozone utopic wszystkich...

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ONZ dało mu duuuuuużo czasu!
okazuje się, że za dużo.

Poczatek konca terroru miedzynarodowego!

[Gość: Mosze]

Co Amerykanie zrobili - to pokazujac swiatu ze mozna rozbic terror. Tak samo
jak kiedys rozbili piratow na swiecie, to to nowy rodzaj piratow, wiecej
niebezpieczny.

Teraz terror nie ma bazy ladowej (Afganistan).
Nie mam banku (Irak) Saddam dawal rocznie miliardy petrodolarow.
Tez pan Arafat musi zrobic cos w kierunku pokoju - bo juz nie ma sponsera...

Moze doczekamy sie jeszcze na dobry swiat!
Jeszcze raz zycze Forumowiczom Wesolych Wielkanocnych Swiat!

Tutaj wylacialy juz bociany do domu, moze wlasciwie zacznie sie nowa era
So help me God!
Pzdr,
mosze

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Mosze
wczoraj w polskiej telewizji nadali bardzo ciekawy film o migracjach ptaków
wędrownych, które mają swój punk zbiorczy w Ziemi Świętej.
i o bocianach też było.
i o ochronie zagrożonych wyginięciem innych zwierząt, o których wspomina Biblia
ST
bardzo dużo zrobił Izrael by ocalić zagrożone zwierzęta.
był nawet fragment jak jedne z nich(kilka z jeszcze żyjących), chyba chodziło o
daniele, zostały nawet przemycone ostatnim samolotem z Iranu przed ichnią
rewolucją.

czekam na bociany
w tym roku wiosna się bardzo opóźniła i te które przyleciały za wczesnie miały
ciężkie życie i nie wszystkie doczekały prawdziwej wiosny.

pozdrawiam
d_nutka

Nie ma ptakow...

[Gość: Mosze]

W Libanie nie ma ptakow...tam strzelaja do kazdego co fruwa...
Tez w Gazie, kiedy byl tam Izrael to nie dawali robic siatki zeby zlapac
skowronki, ktore przylatuja od Turcji. One biedne leca cala noc przez morze.
Kiedy sa juz calkiem wyczerpani, wtedy widzia juz ziemie i wtedy wpadaja w
siec...

[terek]

Mojsze napisał:
"Nie mam banku (Irak) Saddam dawal rocznie miliardy petrodolarow. Tez pan
Arafat musi zrobic cos w kierunku pokoju - bo juz nie ma sponsera..."
_________

Obawiam się Mosze, że problem palestyński nie sprowadza się do pieniędzy
płynących dotychczas z Iraku, lecz równie silnie do pieniędzy płynących ze
źródeł międzynarodowych, w tym i USA, które Arafat zamiast dawać Palestyńczykom
na żywność i oświatę przeistacza na terroryzm

Europa-Ameryka..

[Gość: Mosze]

terek napisał:

>
> Obawiam się Mosze, że problem palestyński nie sprowadza się do pieniędzy
> płynących dotychczas z Iraku, lecz równie silnie do pieniędzy płynących ze
> źródeł międzynarodowych, w tym i USA, które Arafat zamiast dawać
Palestyńczykom
>
> na żywność i oświatę przeistacza na terroryzm

New York Times 21.4.2003

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April 21, 2003
Illicit Arms Kept Till Eve of War, an Iraqi Scientist Is Said to Assert
By JUDITH MILLER


ITH THE 101ST AIRBORNE DIVISION, south of Baghdad, Iraq, April 20 — A scientist
who claims to have worked in Iraq's chemical weapons program for more than a
decade has told an American military team that Iraq destroyed chemical weapons
and biological warfare equipment only days before the war began, members of the
team said.

They said the scientist led Americans to a supply of material that proved to be
the building blocks of illegal weapons, which he claimed to have buried as
evidence of Iraq's illicit weapons programs.

The scientist also told American weapons experts that Iraq had secretly sent
unconventional weapons and technology to Syria, starting in the mid-1990's, and
that more recently Iraq was cooperating with Al Qaeda, the military officials
said.

The Americans said the scientist told them that President Saddam Hussein's
government had destroyed some stockpiles of deadly agents as early as the mid-
1990's, transferred others to Syria, and had recently focused its efforts
instead on research and development projects that are virtually impervious to
detection by international inspectors, and even American forces on the ground
combing through Iraq's giant weapons plants.

An American military team hunting for unconventional weapons in Iraq, the
Mobile Exploitation Team Alpha, or MET Alpha, which found the scientist,
declined to identify him, saying they feared he might be subject to reprisals.
But they said that they considered him credible and that the material unearthed
over the last three days at sites to which he led them had proved to be
precursors for a toxic agent that is banned by chemical weapons treaties.

The officials' account of the scientist's assertions and the discovery of the
buried material, which they described as the most important discovery to date
in the hunt for illegal weapons, supports the Bush administration's charges
that Iraq continued to develop those weapons and lied to the United Nations
about it. Finding and destroying illegal weapons was a major justification for
the war.

The officials' accounts also provided an explanation for why United States
forces had not yet turned up banned weapons in Iraq. The failure to find such
weapons has become a political issue in Washington.

Under the terms of her accreditation to report on the activities of MET Alpha,
this reporter was not permitted to interview the scientist or visit his home.
Nor was she permitted to write about the discovery of the scientist for three
days, and the copy was then submitted for a check by military officials.

Those officials asked that details of what chemicals were uncovered be deleted.
They said they feared that such information could jeopardize the scientist's
safety by identifying the part of the weapons program where he worked.

The MET Alpha team said it reported its findings to Washington after testing
the buried material and checking the scientist's identity with experts in the
United States. A report was sent to the White House on Friday, experts said.

Military spokesmen at the Pentagon and at Central Command headquarters in Doha,
Qatar, said they could not confirm that an Iraqi chemical weapons scientist was
providing American forces with new information.

The scientist was found by a team headed by Chief Warrant Officer Richard L.
Gonzales, the leader of MET Alpha, one of several teams charged with hunting
for unconventional weapons throughout Iraq. Departing from his team's assigned
mission, Mr. Gonzales and his team of specialists from the Defense Intelligence
Agency tracked down the scientist on Thursday through a series of interviews
and increasingly frantic site visits.

While this reporter could not interview the scientist, she was permitted to see
him from a distance at the sites where he said that material from the arms
program was buried.

Clad in nondescript clothes and a baseball cap, he pointed to several spots in
the sand where he said chemical precursors and other weapons material were
buried. This reporter also accompanied MET Alpha on the search for him and was
permitted to examine a letter written in Arabic that he slipped to American
soldiers offering them information about the program and seeking their
protection.

Military officials said the scientist told them that four days before President
Bush gave Mr. Hussein 48 hours to leave Iraq or face war, Iraqi officials set
fire to a warehouse where biological weapons research and development was
conducted.

The officials quoted him as saying he had watched several months before the
outbreak of the war as Iraqis buried chemical precursors and other sensitive
material to conceal and preserve them for future use. The officials said the
scientist showed them documents, samples, and other evidence of the program
that he claimed to have stolen to prove that the program existed.

MET Alpha is one of several teams created earlier this year to hunt for
unconventional weapons in Iraq. Supported by the 75th Exploitation Task Force,
a field artillery brigade based in Fort Sill, Okla., the teams were charged
with visiting some 150 top sites that intelligence agencies have identified as
suspect.

But the Pentagon-led teams, which include specialists from several Pentagon
agencies, have been hampered by a lack of resources and by geography.

Because the task force has two expensive, highly sophisticated, transportable
labs in which chemical and germ samples can be analyzed quickly, it was kept at
a safe distance from fighting at a desert camp in Kuwait, just across the Iraqi
border.

Unable to move their task force closer to Baghdad, where most of the suspect
sites and scientists who worked in them are situated, the mobile exploitation
teams have had to rely on scarce helicopters to travel to suspect sites in the
Baghdad area. Until recently, these were reserved mainly for soldiers going to
battle. As a result, most of the teams had done almost no weapons hunting until
the fighting had largely concluded.

Two weeks ago, MET Alpha was finally given a mission of inspecting barrels
filled with chemicals that were buried on the outskirts of Al Muhawish, a small
town south of Baghdad. A small team with little equipment and virtually no
supplies traveled to the town for what was supposed to be a half-day survey.
The barrels turned out to contain no chemical weapons agents.

But during the survey of that site, Maj. Brian Lynch, the chemical officer of
the 101st Airborne Division, told MET Alpha members about a report of suspect
containers buried in the area that fit the description of mobile labs.

Other officers mentioned that a man who said he was an Iraqi scientist had
given troops a note about Iraq's chemical warfare program. No one had yet
followed up the report, they said, because of the fighting and also because
similar tips had failed to produce evidence of unconventional weapons.

The team, with vehicles and supplies from the 101st Airborne Division, went out
on its own to survey other sites and pursue the tip about the buried containers
and the scientist. After completing a lengthy survey of one installation, Mr.
Gonzales and other team members from the Defense Intelligence Agency's Chemical
Biological Intelligence Support Team decided to try to find the scientist.

Mr. Gonzales tracked down the scientist's note, which had never been formally
analyzed and was still in a brigade headquarters, along with the scientist's
address, military officials said.

The next morning, MET Alpha weapons experts found the scientist at home, along
with some documents from the program and samples he had buried in his backyard
and at other sites.

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Military spokesmen at the Pentagon and at Central Command headquarters in Doha,
Qatar, said they could not confirm that an Iraqi chemical weapons scientist was
providing American forces with new information.

The scientist was found by a team headed by Chief Warrant Officer Richard L.
Gonzales, the leader of MET Alpha, one of several teams charged with hunting
for unconventional weapons throughout Iraq. Departing from his team's assigned
mission, Mr. Gonzales and his team of specialists from the Defense Intelligence
Agency tracked down the scientist on Thursday through a series of interviews
and increasingly frantic site visits.

While this reporter could not interview the scientist, she was permitted to see
him from a distance at the sites where he said that material from the arms
program was buried.

Clad in nondescript clothes and a baseball cap, he pointed to several spots in
the sand where he said chemical precursors and other weapons material were
buried. This reporter also accompanied MET Alpha on the search for him and was
permitted to examine a letter written in Arabic that he slipped to American
soldiers offering them information about the program and seeking their
protection.

Military officials said the scientist told them that four days before President
Bush gave Mr. Hussein 48 hours to leave Iraq or face war, Iraqi officials set
fire to a warehouse where biological weapons research and development was
conducted.

The officials quoted him as saying he had watched several months before the
outbreak of the war as Iraqis buried chemical precursors and other sensitive
material to conceal and preserve them for future use. The officials said the
scientist showed them documents, samples, and other evidence of the program
that he claimed to have stolen to prove that the program existed.

MET Alpha is one of several teams created earlier this year to hunt for
unconventional weapons in Iraq. Supported by the 75th Exploitation Task Force,
a field artillery brigade based in Fort Sill, Okla., the teams were charged
with visiting some 150 top sites that intelligence agencies have identified as
suspect.

But the Pentagon-led teams, which include specialists from several Pentagon
agencies, have been hampered by a lack of resources and by geography.

Because the task force has two expensive, highly sophisticated, transportable
labs in which chemical and germ samples can be analyzed quickly, it was kept at
a safe distance from fighting at a desert camp in Kuwait, just across the Iraqi
border.

Unable to move their task force closer to Baghdad, where most of the suspect
sites and scientists who worked in them are situated, the mobile exploitation
teams have had to rely on scarce helicopters to travel to suspect sites in the
Baghdad area. Until recently, these were reserved mainly for soldiers going to
battle. As a result, most of the teams had done almost no weapons hunting until
the fighting had largely concluded.

Two weeks ago, MET Alpha was finally given a mission of inspecting barrels
filled with chemicals that were buried on the outskirts of Al Muhawish, a small
town south of Baghdad. A small team with little equipment and virtually no
supplies traveled to the town for what was supposed to be a half-day survey.
The barrels turned out to contain no chemical weapons agents.

But during the survey of that site, Maj. Brian Lynch, the chemical officer of
the 101st Airborne Division, told MET Alpha members about a report of suspect
containers buried in the area that fit the description of mobile labs.

Other officers mentioned that a man who said he was an Iraqi scientist had
given troops a note about Iraq's chemical warfare program. No one had yet
followed up the report, they said, because of the fighting and also because
similar tips had failed to produce evidence of unconventional weapons.

The team, with vehicles and supplies from the 101st Airborne Division, went out
on its own to survey other sites and pursue the tip about the buried containers
and the scientist. After completing a lengthy survey of one installation, Mr.
Gonzales and other team members from the Defense Intelligence Agency's Chemical
Biological Intelligence Support Team decided to try to find the scientist.

Mr. Gonzales tracked down the scientist's note, which had never been formally
analyzed and was still in a brigade headquarters, along with the scientist's
address, military officials said.

The next morning, MET Alpha weapons experts found the scientist at home, along
with some documents from the program and samples he had buried in his backyard
and at other sites.

The scientist has told MET Alpha members that because Iraq's unconventional
weapons programs were highly compartmented, he only had firsthand information
about the chemical weapons sector in which he worked, team members said.

But he has given the Americans information about other unconventional weapons
activities, they said, as well as information about Iraqi weapons cooperation
with Syria, and with terrorist groups, including Al Qaeda. It was not clear how
the scientist knew of such a connection.

The potential of MET Alpha's work is "enormous," said Maj. Gen. David Petraeus,
commander of the 101st Airborne Division.

"What they've discovered," he added, "could prove to be of incalculable value.
Though much work must still be done to validate the information MET Alpha has
uncovered, if it proves out it will clearly be one of the major discoveries of
this operation, and it may be the major discovery."



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