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Gość: maniekxxx Re: WTC-dowod? IP: *.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 09.05.03, 21:15 natomiast tutaj sa dowody ze uzycie cell phone jak to twierdzil rzad amerykanski podczas tzw ataku 9/11 bylo niemozliwe ze wzgledow technicznych poniewaz cell phone przestaja dzialac na wysokosciach powyzej 3.5 km a wlasnie samoloty tzw porwane znajdowaly sie grubo powyzej 3.5 km.Rzad amerykanski twierdzil ze byly 2-3 rozmowy przez cell phone z tych porwanych samolotow a wiec udowodniono nastepne klamstwo!!---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EXPERIMENTS REVEAL THAT CELL PHONES COULD NOT HAVE BEEN USED FROM AIRCRAFT ON SEPTEMBER 11TH Project Achilles Part Two - February 25 2003 Equipment: Diamond Katana four-seater (Empire Aviation) cellphones: 1. Telus Mike/TELUS IDEN C1 2. BM Analog cellphone/Bell Mobility C2 3. Audiovox PCS (CDMA)/TELUS C3 4. Nokia GSM/ROGERS AT&T C4 Personnel: Corey Barrington (pilot) Darren Spicknell (operator - technician for Wireless Concepts, Inc) Kee Dewdney (director) Pat Dewdney (ground recorder) Weather: unlimited ceiling, light scattered cloud at 3,000 and 25,000 feet, visibility 15 miles, wind 5 knots from NW, air temperature -12 C. For this experiment, we flew a circular route, instead of the elongated oval. The circle centred on the downtown core and took us over most of the city suburbs. All locations below are referred to the city centre and are always about three miles distant from it. Protocol: At times specified by the director, the operator made a call to a specified number, stating the code number of the cellphone (1 to 4) and the altitude. The receiver recorded whatever was heard and the time the call was received. At the first three altitudes of 2000, 4000, and 6000 feet abga each cellphone was used once. At 8000 feet abga, only C2 and C3 were tried, C1 and C4 now being hors de combat. Results with timeline: time (pm) call no. C# loc. operator recorder 5:05 started taxi to runway 5:12 takeoff 5:14 at 2000 feet (above-ground altitude) 5:15 Call #1 C1 N good not very clear 5:17 Call #2 C2 W good/unclear not very clear 5:19 Call #3 C3 SW no good 5:21 Call #4 C4 S good breaking up 5:24 climbed to 4000 feet abga 5:25 Call #5 C1 NE no good 5:26 Call #6 C2 N good clear 5:27 Call #7 C3 NW no good 5:29 Call #8 C4 W no good 5:33 climbed to 6000 feet abga 5:34 Call #9 C1 SE no good 5:36 Call #10 C2 E no service 5:37 Call #11 C3 NE ³searching²no good 5:38 Call #12 C4 N no service 5:39 Call #13 C1 NW no service 5:40 Call #14 C2 SW good/barely clear 5:42 Call #15 C3 S service - then lost 5:43 Call #16 C4 SE no service 5:44 Call #17 C1 E no service 5:45 Call #18 C2 NE no service 5:45 Call #19 C3 NE good/static breaking up 5:46 Call #20 C4 N no service 5:49 begin climb to 8000 feet abga (cellphones 2 and 3 only) 5:50 Call #21 C2 W no service 5:50 Call #22 C3 SW ³searching² 5:51 Call #23 C2 S good but static buzzy 5:53 completed climb to 8000 feet abga 5:58 Call #24 C3 SE won¹t call out 5:58 Call #25 C2 E won¹t call out 5:58 Call #26 C3 E no service 5:59 Call #27 C2 NE good - then dead 6:00 Call #28 C3 N no service 6:01 Call #29 C1 N no service 6:01 Call #30 C2 NW good - then dead 6:02 Call #31 C3 NW no good 6:02 Call #32 C4 NW no good 6:15 landed at airport Conclusions: To the extent that the cellphones used in this experiment represent types in general use, it may be concluded that from this particular type of aircraft, cellphones become useless very quickly with increasing altitude. In particular, two of the cellphone types, the Mike and the Nokia, became useless above 2000 feet. Of the remaining two, the Audiovox worked intermittently up to 6000 feet but failed thereafter, while the BM analog cellphone worked once just over 7000 feet but failed consistently thereafter. We therefore conclude that ordinary cellphones, digital or analog, will fail to get through at or above 8000 feet abga. In particular, the cellphone that worked best was the older, analog technology. the operator explained, however, that it operates a lower frequency which has slightly greater penetrating power. Summary table Altitude calls tried calls successful percent success 2000 4 3 75% 4000 4 1 25% 6000 12 2 17% 8000 12* 1 8% * includes three calls made while climbing; last successful call was made from just over 7000 feet. The four cellphones operated via four different cellular networks (cellsites). Because calls were made from a variety of positions for each network, it cannot be said that failures were the fault of cellsite placement. the london, Ontario, region is richly supplied with cellsites belonging to five separate networks. It may be noted in passing that this experiment was also conducted in a radio- transparent aircraft with carbon-fibre composite construction. Failure to make a call from such an aircraft with any particular brand of cellphone spells automatic failure for the same cellphone from a metal-clad aircraft flying at the same altitude. A metal skin attenuates all cellphone signals to a significant degree. It may safely be concluded that the operational ceiling for cellphones in aluminum skin aircraft (most passenger liners, for example) would be significantly lower than the ones reported here. It may therefore safely be concluded that cellphone calls from passenger aircraft are physically impossible above 8000 feet abga and statistically unlikely below it. A. K. Dewdney February 25/03 "The chessboard is the world, the pieces are the phenomena of the universe, the rules of the game are the laws of nature. The player on the other side is hidden from us." Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: - Re: WTC-dowod? IP: 168.103.126.* 09.05.03, 22:21 z ktorego dnia jest to opracowanie? jaki jest zwiazek miedzy ta praca a francuskim artykulem z przed roku ? Sadze ze zdjec jest o wiele wiecej obecnie Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
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Gość: maniekxxx Re: WTC-dowod? IP: *.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 09.05.03, 23:41 tu jest wypowiedz bylego wieloletniego niemieckiego ministra :ANDREAS VON BULOW ktory byl miedzy innymi ministrem obrony i technologi w nietak odleglych czasach w niemczech na temat tego tzw zamachu-jednym slowem wielka konspiracjia zionistow amerykanskich!!!---------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- INTERVIEW WITH Andreas Von Buelow IN GERMAN DAILY, TAGESSPIEGEL January 13 VON BULOW INTERVIEW - A criticism of authorized King George W version of September 11 story http://www2.tagesspiegel.de/archiv/2002/01/12/ak-sn-in-558560.html Source: Tagesspiegel, Jan. 12 - PARTIAL TRANSLATION below The following interview by Stephan Lebert / Norbert Thomma with Andreas Von Bulow appeared in the German newspaper Tagesspiegel, on Jan. 13, 2002 Q: You seem so angry, really upset. Von Buelow: I can explain what's bothering me: I see that after the horrifying attacks of Sept. 11, all political public opinion is being forced into a direction that I consider wrong. Q: What do you mean by that? Von Buelow: I wonder why many questions are not asked. Normally, with such a terrible thing, various leads and tracks appear that are then commented on, by the investigators, the media, the government: Is there something here or not? Are the explanations plausible? This time, this is not the case at all. It already began just hours after the attacks in New York and Washington and-- Q: In those hours, there was horror, and grief. Von Buelow: Right, but actually it was astounding: There are 26 intelligence services in the U.S.A. with a budget of $30 billion-- Q: More than the German defense budget. Von Buelow: --which were not able to prevent the attacks. In fact, they didn't even have an inkling they would happen. For 60 decisive minutes, the military and intelligence agencies let the fighter planes stay on the ground, 48 hours later, however, the FBI presented a list of suicide attackers. Within ten days, it emerged that seven of them were still alive. Q: What, please? Von Buelow: Yes, yes. And why did the FBI chief take no position regarding contradictions? Where the list came from, why it was false? If I were the chief investigator (state attorney) in such a case, I would regularly go to the public, and give information on which leads are valid and which not. Q: The U.S. government talked about an emergency situation after the attacks: They said they were in a war. Is it not understandable that one does not tell the enemy everything one knows about him? Von Buelow: Naturally. But a government which goes to war, must first establish who the attacker, the enemy, is. It has a duty to provide evidence. According to its own admission, it has not been able to present any evidence that would hold up in court. Q: Some information on the perpetrators has been proven with documents. The suspected leader, Mohammad Atta, left Portland for Boston on the morning of Sept. 11, in order to board the plane that later hit the World Trade Center. Von Buelow: If this Atta was the decisive man in the operation, it's really strange that he took such a risk of taking a plane that would reach Boston such a short time before the connecting flight. Had his flight been a few minutes late, he would not have been in the plane that was hijacked. Why should a sophisticated terrorist do this? One can, by the way, read on CNN (Internet) that none of these names were on the official passenger lists. None of them had gone through the check-in procedures. And why did none of the threatened pilots give the agreed-upon code 7700 over the [Steuerknueppel: STEERING NOB?] to the ground station? In addition: The black boxes which are fire and shock proof, as well as the voice recordings, contain no valuable data-- Q: That sounds like-- Von Buelow: --like assailants who, in their preparations, leave tracks behind them like a herd of stampeding elephants? They made payments with credit cards with their own names; they reported to their flight instructors with their own names. They left behind rented cars with flight manuals in Arabic for jumbo jets. They took with them, on their suicide trip, wills and farewell letters, which fall into the hands of the FBI, because they were stored in the wrong place and wrongly addressed. Clues were left behind like in a child's game of hide-and-seek, which were to be followed! There is also the theory of one British flight engineer: According to this, the steering of the planes was perhaps taken out of the pilots' hands, from outside. The Americans had developed a method in the 1970s, whereby they could rescue hijacked planes by intervening into the computer piloting [automatic pilot system]. This theory says, this technique was abused in this case. That's a theory.... Q: Which sounds really adventurous, and was never considered. Von Buelow: You see! I do not accept this theory, but I find it worth considering. And what about the obscure stock transactions? In the week prior to the attacks, the amount of transactions in stocks in American Airlines, United Airlines, and insurance companies, increased 1,200%. It was for a value of $15 billion. Some people must have known something. Who? Q: Why don't you speculate on who it might have been. Von Buelow: With the help of the horrifying attacks, the Western mass democracies were subjected to brainwashing. The enemy image of anti-communism doesn't work any more; it is to be replaced by peoples of Islamic belief. They are accused of having given birth to suicidal terrorism. Q: Brainwashing? That's a tough term. Von Buelow: Yes? But the idea of the enemy image doesn't come from me. It comes from Zbigniew Brzezinski and Samuel Huntington, two policy-makers of American intelligence and foreign policy. Already in the middle of he 1990s, Huntingon believed, people in Europe and the U.S. needed someone they could hate--this would strengthen their identification with their own society. And Brzezinski, the mad dog, as adviser to President Jimmy Carter, campaigned for the exclusive right of the U.S. to seize all the raw materials of the world, especially oil and gas. Q: You mean, the events of Sept. 11-- Von Buelow: --fit perfectly in the concept of the armaments industry, the intelligence agencies, the whole military-industrial-academic complex. This is in fact conspicuous. The huge raw materials reserves of the former Soviet Union are now at their disposal, also the pipeline routes and-- Q: Erich Follach described that at length in {Spiegel}: "It's a matter of military bases, drugs, oil and gas reserves.''... Von Buelow: I can state: the planning of the attacks was technically and organizationally a master achievement. To hijack four huge airplanes within a few minutes and within one hour, to drive them into their targets, with complicated flight maneuvers! This is unthinkable, without years-long support from secret apparatuses of the state and industry. Q: You are a conspiracy theorist! Von Buelow: Yeah, yeah. That's the ridicule heaped [on those raising these questions] by those who would prefer to follow the official, politically correct line. Even investigative journalists are fed propaganda and disinformation. Anyone who doubts that, doesn't have all his marbles! That is your accusation. Q: Your career actually speaks against the idea that you are not in your right mind. You were already in the 1970s, state secretary in the Defense Ministry; in 1993 you were the SPD [Social Democratic Party] speaker in the Schalk- Golodkowski investigation committee-- Von Buelow: And it all began there! Until that time, I did not have any great knowledge of the Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś