IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 13.09.05, 13:15
Witam,
Pisze prace lic, i mam pytanie, czemu (oprocz stabilnosci i ogolnego
"porzadku") w bilansie platniczym uzywamy USD? czyli jakie sa przyczyna
stosowania USD w BP?
Z gory dzieki
Obserwuj wątek
    • keily Re: US DOLLAR 13.09.05, 17:28
      jesli chcesz, to wysle Ci b. interesujacy artykul na ten temat. Jest dlugi i po
      angielsku, ale sporo wyjasnia w interesujacym Cie temacie...
      W kosmicznym skrocie: Swiat bedzie uzywal dolara, bo tak chce USA. USA zadluza
      sie w dolarach i dolarem moze dowolnie manipulowac , a inna waluta- nie.
      Kraj, ktory ma cos do zaoferowania/sprzedania USA i zdecyduje sie na przejscie
      na inna walute, zostanie przez USA zbrojnie napadniety i wdeptany w ziemie a
      jego przywodca uwieziony i skazany na smierc.

      fragment:
      "The Federal Reserve's greatest nightmare is that OPEC will switch its
      international transactions from a dollar standard to a Euro standard. Iraq
      actually made this switch in Nov. 2000 (when the Euro was worth around 80
      cents), and has actually made off like a bandit considering the dollar's steady
      depreciation against the Euro" (Note: the dollar declined 17% against the Euro
      in 2002.)
      "The real reason the Bush administration wants a puppet government in Iraq - or
      more importantly, the reason why the corporate-military-industrial network
      conglomerate wants a puppet government in Iraq - is so that it will revert back
      to a dollar standard and stay that way.
      • kapitalizm Re: US DOLLAR 13.09.05, 21:48
        ...oj naiwnosci, ty mloda, zebys miala skrzydla to bys latac umiala....

        stek bzdur tu posuwasz, a czlowiek pytal na powaznie...
        • keily Re: US DOLLAR 14.09.05, 03:21
          kapitalizm napisał:

          > ...oj naiwnosci, ty mloda, zebys miala skrzydla to bys latac umiala....
          >
          > stek bzdur tu posuwasz, a czlowiek pytal na powaznie...


          Zalales mnie potokiem argumentow, daj to troche przemyslec.....
        • Gość: barbar Re: US DOLLAR IP: *.ca-sanfranc0.sa.earthlink.net 14.09.05, 04:01
          Glupis, sprzedawczyku.
          Yankesi drukuja papier i wymuszaja jego akceptacje na swiecie—glownie dla zakupu
          ropy.
          Stad dolar jest waluta rozrachunkowa w handlu zagranicznym i w konsekwencji
          waluta rezerwowa bankow centralnych (ktore tez nie wiadomo dlaczego maja istniec.)
          Stad tak zwane wladze kolejnego PRL kupuja dolarowe obligacje ktore daja blisko
          zerowy procent by miec dolarowe rezerwy i w zamian wypuszczaja wlasne
          –zlotowkowe—obligacje na wysoki procent czym udupiaja wlasnuch obywateli.
          • meerkat1 US DOLLAR: Nie chsesz- trzymaj kase w rublach! 14.09.05, 13:50
            "Glupis, sprzedawczyku.
            > Yankesi drukuja papier i wymuszaja jego akceptacje na swiecie—glownie dla
            > zakupu"

            A jak to Jankesi wymuszaja?

            Okupujac najpierw Kanade i Meksyk, potem Zwiazek Sowiecki i Chiny, a na koncu
            Lichtenstein i Szwajcarie? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
            • keily Re: US DOLLAR: Nie chsesz- trzymaj kase w rublach 14.09.05, 15:21
              meerkat1 napisał:

              > "Glupis, sprzedawczyku.
              > > Yankesi drukuja papier i wymuszaja jego akceptacje na swiecie—glown
              > ie dla
              > > zakupu"
              >
              > A jak to Jankesi wymuszaja?

              Wytlumacze Ci to w skrocie.
              2/3 ekonomii USA to zakupy konsumenckie. Konsumpcja. Gielda idzie w gore/dol,
              bazujac na ilosci zakupow robionych przed swietami przez szanownych Amerykanow.
              To tzw sentyment konsumaencki. Poszukam Ci linkow (ang) tlumaczacych to
              zjawisko.
              tak wiec, USA same nie produkujac, kupuja astronomiczne ilosci chlamu na
              swiecie. Kupowanie to amerykanska kolejna religia, ten kto kupuje duzo i
              najlepiej na kredyt- to wzorowy AMerykanin.
              CO pozostaje producentom? Produkowac i wyrzucac do oceanu? Oczywiscie , ze
              pojda z produktem na najwiekszy i najchlonniejszy rynek- USA.
              I to w zasadzie juz chyba tlumaczy mechanizm?


              >
              > Okupujac najpierw Kanade i Meksyk, potem Zwiazek Sowiecki i Chiny, a na koncu
              > Lichtenstein i Szwajcarie? :-
              ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
              >

              Okupacja wiec, jak widzisz ,na razie nie jest potrzebna. Ale, byc moze, kiedys
              bedzie.
              PS
              Swoje pieniadze (znaczna ich czesc) trzymam w CHF. Kupuje 1000 frankowe
              banknoty i wkladam to do skrytki w banku. Gdy sie uzbiera wystarczjaca ilosc,
              otworze konto w Szwajcarii. GLupi jestem? Ano, czas pokaze.
              • Gość: meerkat Re: US DOLLAR: Nie chcesz- trzymaj kase w rublach IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 15.09.05, 08:43
                I to tlumaczy , dlaczego eksporterzy ropy i gazu sprzedaja ja wylacznie za $$$?

                I dlaczego setki milionow indywidualnych ciulaczy na caly swiecie, trzyma swe
                oszczednosci na kontach dolarowych?

                Przeciez oni moga kupowac- i kupuja masowo- chinski chlam- za juany.
                • keily Re: US DOLLAR: Nie chcesz- trzymaj kase w rublach 15.09.05, 16:18
                  Gość portalu: meerkat napisał(a):

                  > I to tlumaczy , dlaczego eksporterzy ropy i gazu sprzedaja ja wylacznie za
                  $$$?
                  Oczywiscie, ze tlumaczy, tylkko Ty pewnie tego nie potrafisz sobie dodedukowac
                  a ja nie lubie tlumaczyc rzeczy oczywistych.
                  > I dlaczego setki milionow indywidualnych ciulaczy na caly swiecie, trzyma swe
                  > oszczednosci na kontach dolarowych?

                  Trzymaja, bo sa widocznie yebnieci w czaszke. Ja nie jestem, wiec nie trzymam.
                  >
                  > Przeciez oni moga kupowac- i kupuja masowo- chinski chlam- za juany.
            • keily Tu jeszcze link 14.09.05, 15:46
              bo czasami prawdy oczywiste dla nas, sa w swej obsurdalnosci trudne do
              przyjecia przez innych.


              Consumer spending is closely watched since it fuels about two-thirds of the
              world's largest economy. Sluggish sales at chain-store retailers such as Wal-
              Mart (WMT: Research, Estimates) and Target (TGT: Research, Estimates) in August
              led some economists to worry that consumers were finally beginning to show
              signs of strain after carrying the economy out of a recession that began in
              March 2001.

              money.cnn.com/2002/09/13/news/economy/michigan/

              • adas442 dzieki 14.09.05, 22:12
                keily oraz reszcie odpowiadajacym dziekuje, keily prosze o linka, ang jest nawt
                lepiej niz PL bo w takmi jezyku pisze prace lic. Jezeli gdzies widziales moze
                jakies materialy na temat bilans platniczego i kursu walutowego <tak cos
                naprawde konkretengo> to bylbym wdzieczny, dzieki jeszcze raz pozdrawiam
                adas442
                • Gość: Keily Re: dzieki IP: *.ny325.east.verizon.net 15.09.05, 02:33
                  Linka rzuce jutro, w pracy mam :)
                  • adas442 Re: dzieki 15.09.05, 08:35
                    aha w miare mozliwosci prosze lineczki w jezyku ANG
                    • keily Artykul 15.09.05, 13:56
                      The Real Reasons for the War on Iraq. Macroeconomic and Geostrategic Analysis
                      of the Unspoken Truth
                      The Sierra Times | 02/08/03 | W.C.
                      Posted on 02/09/2003 8:56 AM PST by o_zarkman44
                      The Real Reasons for the Upcoming War with Iraq: A Macroeconomic and
                      Geostrategic Analysis of the Unspoken Truth W.C. Published 02. 8. 03 at 17:14
                      Sierra Time
                      The Real Reasons for the Upcoming War with Iraq: A Macroeconomic and
                      Geostrategic Analysis of the Unspoken Truth
                      January 2003
                      "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and
                      never will be ... The People cannot be safe without information. When the press
                      is free, and every man is able to read, all is safe."
                      Those words by Thomas Jefferson embody the unfortunate state of affairs that
                      have beset our nation. As our government prepares to go to war with Iraq, our
                      country seems unable to answer even the most basic questions about this war.
                      First, why is there virtually no international support to topple Saddam? If
                      Iraq's WMD program truly possessed the threat level that President Bush has
                      repeatedly purported, why is there no international coalition to militarily
                      disarm Saddam? Secondly, despite over 300 unfettered U.N inspections to date,
                      there has been no evidence reported of a reconstituted Iraqi WMD program.
                      Third, and despite Bush’s rhetoric, the CIA has not found any links between
                      Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. To the contrary, some analysts believe it is far
                      more likely Al Qaeda might acquire an unsecured former Soviet Union Weapon(s)
                      of Mass Destruction, or potentially from sympathizers within a destabilized
                      Pakistan.
                      Moreover, immediately following Congress's vote on the Iraq Resolution, we
                      suddenly became aware of North Korea's nuclear program violations. Kim Jong Il
                      is processing uranium in order to produce nuclear weapons this year. President
                      Bush has not provided a rationale answer as to why Saddam's seemingly dormant
                      WMD program possesses a more imminent threat that North Korea’s active program?
                      Strangely, Donald Rumsfeld suggested that if Saddam were "exiled" we could
                      avoid an Iraq war? Confused yet? Well, I'm going to give their game away - the
                      core driver for toppling Saddam is actually the Euro currency, the €.
                      Although completely suppressed in the U.S. media, the answer to the Iraq enigma
                      is simple yet shocking. The upcoming war in Iraq is mostly about how the ruling
                      class at Langley and the Bush administration view hydrocarbons at the geo-
                      strategic level, and the overarching macroeconomic threats to the U.S. dollar
                      from the Euro The Real Reason for this upcoming war is this administration's
                      goal of preventing further OPEC momentum towards the Euro as an oil transaction
                      currency standard. However, in order to pre-empt OPEC, they need to gain geo-
                      strategic control of Iraq along with its 2nd largest proven oil reserves. This
                      essay will discuss the macroeconomics of the "petro-dollar" and the
                      unpublicized but real threat to U.S. economic hegemony from the Euro as an
                      alternative oil transaction currency. The following is how an astute and
                      anonymous friend alluded to the unspoken truth about this upcoming war with
                      Iraq...
                      "The Federal Reserve's greatest nightmare is that OPEC will switch its
                      international transactions from a dollar standard to a Euro standard. Iraq
                      actually made this switch in Nov. 2000 (when the Euro was worth around 80
                      cents), and has actually made off like a bandit considering the dollar's steady
                      depreciation against the Euro" (Note: the dollar declined 17% against the Euro
                      in 2002.)
                      "The real reason the Bush administration wants a puppet government in Iraq - or
                      more importantly, the reason why the corporate-military-industrial network
                      conglomerate wants a puppet government in Iraq - is so that it will revert back
                      to a dollar standard and stay that way." (While also hoping to veto any wider
                      OPEC momentum towards the Euro, especially from Iran – the 2nd largest OPEC
                      producer who is actively discussing a switch to Euros for its oil exports).
                      Furthermore, despite Saudi Arabia being our 'client state,' the Saudi regime
                      appears increasingly weak/ threatened from massive civil unrest. Some analysts
                      believe a "Saudi Revolution" might be plausible in the aftermath of an
                      unpopular U.S. invasion of Iraq (i.e.. Iran circa 1979) (1). Undoubtedly, the
                      Bush administration is acutely aware of these risks. Hence, the neo
                      conservative framework entails a large and permanent military presence in the
                      Persian Gulf region in a post-Saddam era, just in case we need to grab and
                      secure Saudi's oil fields in the event of a Saudi coup by an anti-western
                      group. But first back to Iraq, and to my friend's lucid comments on the Iraq
                      enigma.
                      "Saddam sealed his fate when he decided to switch to the Euro in late 2000 (and
                      later converted his $10 billion reserve fund at the U.N. to Euros) - at that
                      point, another manufactured Gulf War become inevitable under Bush II. Only the
                      most extreme circumstances could possibly stop that now and I strongly doubt
                      anything can - short of Saddam getting replaced with a pliant regime."
                      Big Picture Perspective: "Everything else aside from the reserve currency and
                      the Saudi/Iran oil issues (i.e. domestic political issues and international
                      criticism) is peripheral and of marginal consequence to this administration.
                      Further, the dollar-Euro threat is powerful enough that they'll rather risk
                      much of the economic backlash in the short-term to stave off the long-term
                      dollar crash of an OPEC transaction standard change from dollars to Euros All
                      of this fits into the broader Great Game that encompasses Russia, India,
                      China."
                      This information about Iraq’s oil currency is *censored* by the U.S. Media and
                      the Bush administration as the truth could potentially curtail both investor
                      and consumer confidence, reduce consumer borrowing/ spending, create political
                      pressure to form a new energy policy that slowly weans us off middle-eastern
                      oil, and of course stop our march towards war in Iraq. This 'quasi state
                      secret' can be found on a Radio Free Europe article discussing Saddam’s switch
                      for his oil sales from dollars to the Euros on Nov. 6, 2000 (2).
                      "Baghdad’s switch from the dollar to the Euro for oil trading is intended to
                      rebuke Washington’s hard-line on sanctions and encourage Europeans to challenge
                      it. But the political message will cost Iraq millions in lost revenue. RFE/RL
                      correspondent Charles Recknagel looks at what Baghdad will gain and lose, and
                      the impact of the decision to go with the European currency."
                      At the time of the switch many analysts were surprised that Saddam was willing
                      to give up millions in oil revenue for what appeared to be a political
                      statement. However, contrary to one of the main points of this November 2000
                      article, the steady depreciation of the dollar versus the Euro since late 2001
                      means that Iraq has profited handsomely from the switch in their reserve and
                      transaction currencies. The Euro has gained roughly 17% against the dollar in
                      that time, which also applies to the $10 billion in Iraq's U.N. "oil for food"
                      reserve fund that was previously held in dollars has also gained that same
                      percent value since the switch. What would happen if OPEC made a sudden switch
                      to Euros, as opposed to a gradual transition? My expert analyst friend had this
                      to day:
                      "Otherwise, the effect of an OPEC switch to the Euro would be that oil-
                      consuming nations would have to flush dollars out of their (central bank)
                      reserve funds and replace these with Euros The dollar would crash anywhere from
                      20-40% in value and the consequences would be those one could expect from any
                      currency collapse and massive inflation (think Argentina currency crisis, for
                      example). You;d have foreign funds stream out of the U.S
                      • keily Re: Artykul 15.09.05, 13:57
                        Incidentally, the final "Axis of Evil" country, North Korea, recently decided
                        to officially drop the dollar and begin using Euros for trade, effective Dec.
                        7, 2002 (7). Unlike the OPEC-producers, their switch will have negligible
                        economic impact, but it illustrates the geopolitical fallout of President
                        Bush's harsh rhetoric. Much more troubling are North Korea's recent actions
                        following the oil embargo of their country. They are in dire need of oil and
                        food; and in an act of desperation they have re-activated their pre-1994
                        nuclear program. Processing uranium appears to be taking place at a rapid pace,
                        and it appears their strategy is to prompt negotiations with the U.S. regarding
                        food and oil. The CIA estimates that North Korea could produce 4-6 nuclear
                        weapons by the second half of 2003. Ironically, this crisis over North Korea's
                        nuclear program further confirms the fraudulent premise for which this war with
                        Saddam was entirely contrived.
                        Unfortunately, neo conservatives such as George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald
                        Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle fail to grasp that Newton’s Law
                        applies equally to both physics and the geo-political sphere as well:
                        "For every action there is an equal but opposite reaction."
                        During the 1990s the world viewed the U.S. as a rather self-absorbed but
                        essentially benevolent superpower. Military actions in Iraq (90-91' & 98'),
                        Serbia and Kosovo (99') were undertaken with both U.N. And NATO cooperation and
                        thus afforded international legitimacy. President Clinton also worked to reduce
                        tensions in Northern Ireland and attempted to negotiate a resolution to the
                        Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
                        However, in both the pre and post 9/11 intervals, the "America first" policies
                        of the Bush administration, with its unwillingness to honor International
                        Treaties, along with their aggressive militarization of foreign policy, has
                        significantly damaged our reputation abroad. Following 9/11, it appears that
                        President Bush's "warmongering rhetoric" has created global tensions – as we
                        are now viewed as a belligerent superpower willing to apply unilateral military
                        force without U.N. approval.
                        Lamentably, the tremendous amount of international sympathy that we witnessed
                        in the immediate aftermath of the September 11th tragedy has been replaced with
                        fear and anger at our government. This administration’s bellicosity has changed
                        the worldview, and "anti-Americanism" is proliferating even among our closest
                        allies (8). Even more alarming, and *completely unreported* in the U.S media,
                        are some monetary shifts in the reserve funds of foreign governments away from
                        the dollar with movements towards the Euro (9). It appears that the world
                        community may lack faith in the Bush administration's economic policies, and
                        along with OPEC, seems poised to respond with economic retribution if the U.S.
                        Government is regarded as an uncontrollable and dangerous superpower. The
                        plausibility of abandoning the dollar standard for the Euro is growing. An
                        interesting U.K. article outlines the dynamics and the potential outcomes
                        ('Beyond Bush’s Unilateralism: Another Bi-Polar World or A New Era of Win-
                        Win?') (10)
                        <<>> "The most likely end to US hegemony may come about through a combination
                        of high oil prices (brought about by US foreign policies toward the Middle
                        East) and deeper devaluation of the US dollar (expected by many economists).
                        Some elements of this scenario:
                        1) US global overreach in the "war on terrorism" already leading to deficits as
                        far as the eye can see
                        • keily Re: Artykul 15.09.05, 13:59
                          "The CIA's role in a 1971 Chilean strike could have served as the working model
                          for generating economic and social instability in order to topple Chavez. In
                          the truckers' strike of that year, the agency secretly orchestrated and
                          financed the artificial prolongation of a contrived work stoppage in order to
                          economically asphyxiate the leftist Salvador Allende government."
                          "This scenario would have had CIA operatives acting in liaison with the
                          Venezuelan military, as well as with opposition business and labor leaders, to
                          convert a relatively minor afternoon-long work stoppage by senior management
                          into a nearly successful coup de gráce."
                          Interestingly, according to an article by Michael Ruppert, Venezuelan’s
                          ambassador Francisco Mieres-Lopez apparently floated the idea of switching to
                          the Euro as their oil currency standard approximately one year before the
                          failed coup attempt. Furthermore, there is evidence that the CIA is still
                          active in its attempts to overthrow the democratically elected Chavez
                          administration. In fact, this December a Uruguayan government official exposed
                          the ongoing covert CIA operations in Venezuela (12):
                          "Uruguayan EP-FA congressman Jose Bayardi says he has information that far-
                          reaching plan have been put into place by the CIA and other North American
                          intelligence agencies to overthrow Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez Frias"
                          "Bayardi says he has received copies of top-secret communications between the
                          Bush administration in Washington and the government of Uruguay requesting the
                          latter's cooperation to support white collar executives and trade union
                          activists to "break down levels of intransigence within the Chavez Frias
                          administration"...
                          Venezuela is the fourth largest producer of oil, and the corporate elites whose
                          political power runs unfettered in the Bush/Cheney oligarchy appear interested
                          in privatizing Venezuela’s oil industry. Furthermore, the establishment might
                          be concerned that Chavez's "barter deals" with 12 Latin American countries and
                          Cuba are effectively cutting the U.S. Dollar out of the vital oil transaction
                          currency cycle. Commodities are being traded among these countries in exchange
                          for Venezuela's oil, thereby reducing reliance on fiat dollars. If these unique
                          oil transactions proliferate, they could create more devaluation pressure on
                          the dollar. Continuing attempts by the CIA to remove Hugo Chavez appear likely.
                          The U.S. Economy has acquired significant structural imbalances, including our
                          record-high trade account deficit (now almost 5% of GDP), $6.3 trillion dollar
                          deficit (55% of GDP), and the recent return to annual budget deficits in the
                          hundreds of billions. These are factors that would devalue the currency of any
                          nation under the "old rules." Why is the dollar still predominant despite these
                          structural flaws?
                          Well, the elites understand that the strength of the dollar does not merely
                          rest on our economic output per se. The dollar posses two unique advantages
                          relative to all other hard currencies. The reality is that the strength of the
                          dollar since 1945 rests on being the international reserve currency and thus
                          fiat currency for global oil transactions (i.e.."Petrodollar"). The U.S. prints
                          hundreds of billions of these fiat petro-dollars, which are then used by nation
                          states to purchase oil/energy from OPEC producers (except Iraq, to some degree
                          Venezuela, and perhaps Iran in the near future). These petro-dollars are then
                          re-cycled from OPEC back into the U.S. via Treasury Bills or other dollar-
                          denominated assets such as U.S. stocks, real estate, etc.
                          The "old rules" for valuation of our currency and economic power were based on
                          our flexible market, free flow of trade goods, high per worker productivity,
                          manufacturing output/trade surpluses, government oversight of accounting
                          methodologies (i.e.. SEC), developed infrastructure, education system, and of
                          course total cash flow and profitability. While many of these factors remain
                          present, over the last two decades we have diluted some of these "safe harbor"
                          fundamentals. Despite vast imbalances and structural problems that are
                          escalating within the U.S. Economy, the dollar as the fiat oil currency
                          created "new rules". The following exerts from an Asia Times article discusses
                          the virtues of our fiat oil currency and dollar hegemony (or vices from the
                          perspective of developing nations, whose debt is denominated in dollars). (13)
                          <<>> "Ever since 1971, when US president Richard Nixon took the dollar off the
                          gold standard (at $35 per ounce) that had been agreed to at the Bretton Woods
                          Conference at the end of World War II, the dollar has been a global monetary
                          instrument that the United States, and only the United States, can produce by
                          fiat. The dollar, now a fiat currency, is at a 16-year trade-weighted high
                          despite record US current-account deficits and the status of the US as the
                          leading debtor nation. The US national debt as of April 4 was $6.021 trillion
                          against a gross domestic product (GDP) of $9 trillion."
                          "World trade is now a game in which the US produces dollars and the rest of the
                          world produces things that dollars can buy. The world's interlinked economies
                          no longer trade to capture a comparative advantage; they compete in exports to
                          capture needed dollars to service dollar-denominated foreign debts and to
                          accumulate dollar reserves to sustain the exchange value of their domestic
                          currencies. To prevent speculative and manipulative attacks on their
                          currencies, the world's central banks must acquire and hold dollar reserves in
                          corresponding amounts to their currencies in circulation. The higher the market
                          pressure to devalue a particular currency, the more dollar reserves its central
                          bank must hold. This creates a built-in support for a strong dollar that in
                          turn forces the world's central banks to acquire and hold more dollar reserves,
                          making it stronger.
                          *This phenomenon is known as dollar hegemony, which is created by the
                          geopolitically constructed peculiarity that critical commodities, most notably
                          oil, are denominated in dollars.* Everyone accepts dollars because dollars can
                          buy oil. The recycling of petro-dollars is the price the US has extracted from
                          oil-producing countries for US tolerance of the oil-exporting cartel since
                          1973."
                          "By definition, dollar reserves must be invested in US assets, creating a
                          capital-accounts surplus for the US economy. Even after a year of sharp
                          correction, US stock valuation is still at a 25-year high and trading at a 56
                          percent premium compared with emerging markets."
                        • keily Re: Artykul 15.09.05, 13:59
                          "The US capital-account surplus in turn finances the US trade deficit.
                          Moreover, any asset, regardless of location, that is denominated in dollars is
                          a US asset in essence. When oil is denominated in dollars through US state
                          action and the dollar is a fiat currency, the US essentially owns the world's
                          oil for free. And the more the US prints greenbacks, the higher the price of US
                          assets will rise. Thus a strong-dollar policy gives the US a double win." <<>>
                          This unique geopolitical agreement with Saudi Arabia in 1973 has worked to our
                          favor for the past 30 years, as this arrangement has raised the entire asset
                          value of all dollar denominated assets/properties, and allowed the Federal
                          Reserve to create a truly massive debt and credit expansion (or ‘credit bubble’
                          in the view of some economists). These structural imbalances in the U.S.
                          Economy are sustainable as long as:
                          1) Nations continue to demand and purchase oil for their energy/survival needs
                          2) The fiat reserve currency for global oil transactions remain the U.S. Dollar
                          (and dollar only)
                          These underlying factors, along with the "safe harbor" reputation of U.S.
                          investments afforded by the dollar’s reserve currency status propelled the U.S.
                          to economic and military hegemony in the post-World War II period. However, the
                          introduction of the Euro is a significant new factor, and appears to be the
                          primary threat to U.S. Economic hegemony. More over, in December 2002 ten
                          additional countries were approved for full membership into the EU In 2004 this
                          will result in an aggregate GDP of $9.6 trillion and 450 million people,
                          directly competing with the U.S. Economy ($10.5 trillion GDP, 280 million
                          people).
                          Especially interesting is a speech given by Mr. Javad Yarjani, the Head of
                          OPEC’s Petroleum Market Analysis Department, in a visit to Spain (April 2002).
                          He speech dealt entirely on the subject of OPEC oil transaction currency
                          standard with respect to both the dollar and the Euro The following exerts from
                          this OPEC executive provide insights into the conditions that would create
                          momentum for an OPEC currency switch to the Euro Indeed, his candid analysis
                          warrants careful consideration given that two of the requisite variables he
                          outlines for the switch have taken place since this speech in early 2002. These
                          *vital stories are discussed in the European media, but have been censored by
                          our own mass media* (14)
                          "The question that comes to mind is whether the Euro will establish itself in
                          world financial markets, thus challenging the supremacy of the US dollar, and
                          consequently trigger a change in the dollar's dominance in oil markets. As we
                          all know, the mighty dollar has reigned supreme since 1945, and in the last few
                          years has even gained more ground with the economic dominance of the United
                          States, a situation that may not change in the near future. By the late 90s,
                          more than four-fifths of all foreign exchange transactions, and half of all
                          world exports, were denominated in dollars. In addition, the US currency
                          accounts for about two thirds of all official exchange reserves. The world's
                          dependency on US dollars to pay for trade has seen countries bound to dollar
                          reserves, which are disproportionately higher than America's share in global
                          output. The share of the dollar in the denomination of world trade is also much
                          higher than the share of the US in world trade.
                          Having said that, it is worthwhile to note that in the long run the Euro is not
                          at such a disadvantage versus the dollar when one compares the relative sizes
                          of the economies involved, especially given the EU enlargement plans. Moreover,
                          the Euro-zone has a bigger share of global trade than the US and while the US
                          has a huge current account deficit, the Euro area has a more, or balanced,
                          external accounts position. One of the more compelling arguments for keeping
                          oil pricing and payments in dollars has been that the US remains a large
                          importer of oil, despite being a substantial crude producer itself. However,
                          looking at the statistics of crude oil exports, one notes that the Euro-zone is
                          an even larger importer of oil and petroleum products than the US."
                          "From the EU’s point of view, *it is clear that Europe would prefer to see
                          payments for oil shift from the dollar to the Euro, which effectively removed
                          the currency risk.* It would also increase demand for the Euro and thus help
                          raise its value. Moreover, since oil is such an important commodity in global
                          trade, in term of value, if pricing were to shift to the Euro, it could provide
                          a boost to the global acceptability of the single currency.
                          There is also very strong trade links between OPEC Member Countries (MCs) and
                          the Euro-zone, with more than 45 percent of total merchandise imports of OPEC
                          MCs coming from the countries of the Euro-zone, while OPEC MCs are main
                          suppliers of oil and crude oil products to Europe."
                          "Of major importance to the ultimate success of the Euro, in terms of the oil
                          pricing, will be if Europe's two major oil producers — the United Kingdom and
                          Norway join the single currency. Naturally, the future integration of these two
                          countries into the Euro-zone and Europe will be important considering they are
                          the region’s two major oil producers in the North Sea, which is home to the
                          international crude oil benchmark, Brent. *This might create a momentum to
                          shift the oil pricing system to Euros*."
                          "In the short-term, OPEC MCs, with possibly a few exceptions, are expected to
                          continue to accept payment in dollars. Nevertheless, I believe that OPEC will
                          not discount entirely the possibility of adopting Euro pricing and payments in
                          the future. The Organization, like many other financial houses at present, is
                          also assessing how the Euro will settle into its life as a new currency. The
                          critical question for market players is the overall value and stability of the
                          Euro, and whether other countries within the Union will adopt the single
                          currency."
                          "Should the Euro challenge the dollar in strength, which essentially could
                          include it in the denomination of the oil bill, it could be that a system may
                          emerge which benefits more countries in the long-term. Perhaps with increased
                          European integration and a strong European economy, this may become a reality.
                          Time may be on your side. I wish the Euro every success."
                          Based on this important speech, momentum for OPEC to consider switching to the
                          Euro will grow once the EU expands in May 2004 to 450 million people with the
                          inclusion of 10 additional member states. The aggregate GDP will increase from
                          $7 trillion to $9.6 trillion. This enlarged EU will be an oil consuming
                          purchasing population 33% larger than the U.S., And over half of OPEC crude oil
                          will be sold to the EU as of mid-2004. This does not include other potential EU
                          entrants such as the UK, Norway, Denmark and Sweden. I should note that since
                          this speech the Euro has been trading at parity or above the dollar since late
                          2002, and analysts predict the dollar will continue its downward trending in
                          2003 relative to the Euro
                          It appears the final two pivotal items that would create the OPEC transition to
                          Euros will be based on if and when Norway’s Brent crude is re-dominated in
                          Euros, and when the UK adopts the Euro Regarding the later, Tony Blair is
                          lobbying heavily for the UK to adopt the Euro, and their adoption would seem
                          imminent within this decade. If and when the UK adopts the Euro currency I
                          suspect a concerted effort will be quickly mounted to establish the Euro as an
                          international reserve currency. Again, I offer the following information from
                          my astute acquaintance who analyzes these monetary matters very carefully:
                          "The pivotal vote will probably be Sweden, where approval this next autumn of
                          adopting th
                        • keily Re: Artykul 15.09.05, 14:00
                          "Finally, the maneuvers toward reducing the global dominance of the dollar are
                          already well underway and have only reason to accelerate so far as I can see.
                          An OPEC pricing shift would seem rather unlikely prior 2004 - barring political
                          motivations (ie. from anxious OPEC members) or a disorderly collapse of the
                          dollar (ie. Japanese bank collapse due to high oil prices following a prolonged
                          Iraq conflict) but appears quite viable to take place before the end of the
                          decade."
                          Facing these potentialities, I hypothesize that President Bush intends to
                          topple Saddam in 2003 in a pre-emptive attempt to initiate massive Iraqi oil
                          production in far excess of OPEC quotas, to reduce global oil prices, and
                          thereby dismantle OPEC's price controls. The end-goal of the neo-conservatives
                          is incredibly bold yet singular in purpose, to use the "war on terror" as the
                          premise to finally dissolve OPEC's decision-making process, thus ultimately
                          preventing the cartel’s inevitable switch to pricing oil in euros.
                          How would the Bush administration break-up the OPEC cartel's price controls in
                          a post-Saddam Iraq? First, the newly installed leader (apparently a U.S.
                          General during the first several months) will convert Iraq back to the dollar
                          standard. Next, with the U.S. military protecting the oil fields, the new
                          ruling junta will undertake the necessary steps to rapidly increase production
                          of Iraq oil, quintupling Iraq’s current output – well beyond OPEC’s 2 million
                          barrel per day quota.
                          Dr. Nayyer Ali offers a succinct analysis of how Iraq’s underutilized oil
                          reserves will not be a 'profit-maker' for the U.S. government, but it will
                          serve as the crucial economic instrument to leverage and hopefully dissolve
                          OPEC's price controls, thus fulfilling the long sought after goal of the neo
                          conservatives to collapse the OPEC cartel (15):
                          "Despite this vast pool of oil, Iraq has never produced at a level
                          proportionate to the reserve base. Since the Gulf War, Iraq's production has
                          been limited by sanctions and allowed sales under the oil for food program (by
                          which Iraq has sold 60 billion dollars worth of oil over the last 5 years) and
                          what else can be smuggled out. This amounts to less than 1 billion barrels per
                          year.
                          If Iraq were reintegrated into the world economy, it could allow massive
                          investment in its oil sector and boost output to 2.5 billion barrels per year,
                          or about 7 million barrels a day. Total world oil production is about 75
                          million barrels, and OPEC combined produces about 25 million barrels.
                          What would be the consequences of this? There are two obvious things.
                          First would be the collapse of OPEC, whose strategy of limiting production to
                          maximize price will have finally reached its limit. An Iraq that can produce
                          that much oil will want to do so, and will not allow OPEC to limit it to 2
                          million barrels per day. If Iraq busts its quota, then who in OPEC will give up
                          5 million barrels of production? No one could afford to, and OPEC would die.
                          This would lead to the second major consequence, which is a collapse in the
                          price of oil to the 10-dollar range per barrel. The world currently uses 25
                          billion barrels per year, so a 15-dollar drop will save oil-consuming nations
                          375 billion dollars in crude oil costs every year."
                          "The Iraq war is not a moneymaker. But it could be an OPEC breaker. That
                          however is a long-term outcome that will require Iraq to be successfully
                          reconstituted into a functioning state in which massive oil sector investment
                          can take place."
                          The American people are largely oblivious to the economic risks regarding
                          President Bush’s upcoming war. Not only is Japan’s weakened economy at grave
                          risk from a spike in oil prices, but additional risks relate to Iran and
                          Venezuela as well, either of whom could move to the euros, thus providing
                          further momentum for OPEC to act on their "internal discussions" and switch to
                          the euro as their new oil currency. The Bush administration believes that by
                          toppling Saddam they will remove the juggernaut, thus allowing the US to
                          control Iraqi’s huge oil reserves, and finally break-up and dissolve the 10
                          remaining countries in OPEC.
                          This last issue is undoubtedly a significant gamble even in the best-case
                          scenario of a quick and relatively painless war that topples Saddam and leaves
                          Iraq's oil fields intact. Undoubtedly, the OPEC cartel could feel threatened by
                          the goal of the neo conservatives to break-up OPEC’s price controls ($22-$28
                          per barrel). Perhaps the Bush administration’s ambitious goal of flooding the
                          oil market with Iraqi crude may work, but I have doubts. Will OPEC simply
                          tolerate quota-busting Iraqi oil production, thus delivering to them a lesson
                          in self-inflicted hara-kiri (suicide)?
                          Contrarily, OPEC could meet in Vienna and in an act of self-preservation re-
                          denominate the oil currency to the euro. Such a decision by would mark the end
                          of U.S. dollar hegemony, and thus the end of our precarious economic superpower
                          status. Again, I offer the astute analysis of my expert friend regarding the
                          colossal gamble this administration is about to undertake:
                          "One of the dirty little secrets of today's international order is that the
                          rest of the globe could topple the United States from its hegemonic status
                          whenever they so choose with a concerted abandonment of the dollar standard.
                          This is America's preeminent, inescapable Achilles Heel for now and the
                          foreseeable future.
                          That such a course hasn't been pursued to date bears more relation to the fact
                          that other Westernized, highly developed nations haven't any interest to
                          undergo the great disruptions which would follow - but it could assuredly take
                          place in the event that the consensus view coalesces of the United States as
                          any sort of 'rogue' nation. In other words, if the dangers of American global
                          hegemony are ever perceived as a greater liability than the dangers of toppling
                          the international order (or, alternately, if an 'every man for himself' crisis
                          as discussed above spirals out of control and forces their hand).
                          The Bush administration and the neo conservative movement has set out on a
                          multiple-front course to ensure that this *cannot* take place, in brief by a
                          graduated assertion of military hegemony atop the existent economic hegemony.
                          The paradox I've illustrated with this one narrow scenario is that the quixotic
                          course itself may very well bring about the feared outcome that it means to
                          preempt. We shall see!"
                          Under this administration we have returned to massive deficit spending, and the
                          lack of strong SEC enforcement has further eroded investor confidence.
                          Regrettably, the flawed economic and tax policies and of the Bush
                          administration may be exacerbating the weakness of the dollar, if not outright
                          accelerating some countries to diversify their central bank reserve funds with
                          euros as an alternative to the dollar.
                          From a foreign policy perspective, the terminations of numerous international
                          treaties and disdain for international cooperation via the UN and NATO have
                          angered even our closest allies. Lastly, and despite President Bush’s attempt
                          to use the threat of applying military force to OPEC producers who may wish to
                          switch to the euro for their oil payments, it appears their belligerent neo
                          conservative policies may paradoxically bring about the dire outcome they hope
                          to prevent – an OPEC currency switch to euros.
                          Synopsis It would appear that any attempt by OPEC member states in the Middle
                          East or Latin America to transition to the euro as their oil transaction
                          currency standard shall be met with either overt U.S. military actions or
                          covert U.S. intelligence agency interventions. Under the guise of the
                          perpetual "war on terror" the Bush administration is manipulating the
                        • keily Re: Artykul 15.09.05, 14:00
                        • keily Re: Artykul 15.09.05, 14:00
                          economy, and suggests that the potential geo-political fallout of a unilaterist
                          war in Iraq could create a devastating divestiture of U.S. dollar denominated
                          assets. The article was entitled: 'Why Bush is sunk without Europe.' (25)
                          <<>> "The US's economic position is far too vulnerable to allow it to go war
                          without cast-iron multilateral support that could underpin it economically as
                          well as diplomatically and militarily. The multi-lateralism Bush scorns is, in
                          truth, an economic necessity."
                          "On latest estimates, its net liabilities to the rest the world are more than
                          $2.7 trillion, nearly 30 per cent of GDP, a scale of indebtedness associated
                          with basket-case economies in Latin America."
                          Its industrial base is so uncompetitive that it consistently imports more than
                          it exports; its current-account deficit, the gap between all its current
                          foreign earnings and foreign spending, is now a stunning 5 per cent of GDP,
                          continuing a trend that has lasted for more than 25 years and which is the
                          cause of all that foreign debt. As a national community, it has virtually
                          ceased to save so that government and individuals alike live on credit. To
                          finance the current-account deficit, a reflection of the lack of saving, the US
                          relies on foreigners supplying it with the foreign currency it can't earn
                          itself.
                          *But if foreigners got windy about the prospects for share and property prices
                          and stopped buying, or began to withdraw some of the trillions they have
                          invested in the US economy, then the dollar would collapse. Already, it has
                          fallen nearly 10 per cent against the euro over the last six weeks, but that
                          could just be the beginning. Economists at the Federal Reserve have estimated
                          that the dollar needs to fall by 30 per cent to bring the flow of imports and
                          exports into balance, but in today's markets such a fall doesn't happen
                          gradually. It happens precipitately.*
                          If America and Britain spurn a second UN Resolution and go to war with the
                          active opposition of key members of the Security Council like France and
                          Russia, be sure the flow of dollars into the US will slow down dramatically,
                          and be sure there will be a stampede of foreigners trying to sell. Shares on
                          Wall Street that Bush is so anxious to prop up are still massively overvalued.
                          *Against this background, there could be a devastating sell-off, with all the
                          depressing knock-on consequences for American consumer confidence and business
                          investment.*
                          What the markets were signaling last week was that this is sufficiently within
                          the bounds of possibility that it was worth taking precautionary action, hence
                          the selling. If the war was over in a few weeks, the risks would be
                          containable, and there will be some shares well worth buying at today's prices.
                          But if the war was prolonged or the subsequent peace unstable, then the
                          pressure on the dollar and Wall Street could become very severe indeed,
                          reinforcing the depressive influences on an economy where the underlying
                          imbalances are so extraordinary.
                          "The US approach has been unilateralist here as everywhere else: it does what
                          it likes as it likes, a policy that is now showing its limits. Bush needs badly
                          to change course, which Tony Blair should be urging on him. The UN process
                          needs to be respected and reinforced, not least to reassure the markets, and
                          better systems of economic governance need to be put in place. The US's
                          military capacity may allow unilateralism; its soft economic underbelly, we are
                          discovering, does not." <<>>
                          These articles indicate that the world community is reducing its reliance on
                          dollars in their central banks, and thus quite possibly sending a message about
                          their opposition to the U.S.'s position on Iraq.
                          Commentary from an Irishman on my Essay: 'The Real Reasons for the Upcoming War
                          With Iraq'
                          In January 2003, Mr. Coílín Nunan reviewed a draft of my essay on an Internet
                          forum. He subsequently published an exceptional summary of this research on an
                          Irish website (www.feasta.org). Hopefully my essay along with his
                          article may create additional public awareness, and thus facilitate a real
                          debate regarding the Iraq issues. Below are exerts from his article 'Oil,
                          Currency, and the War on Iraq' (26)
                          <<>> "One of the stated economic objectives, and perhaps the primary objective,
                          when setting up the euro was to turn it into a reserve currency to challenge
                          the dollar so that Europe too could get something for nothing.
                          This however would be a disaster for the US. Not only would they lose a large
                          part of their annual subsidy of effectively free goods and services, but
                          countries switching to euro reserves from dollar reserves would bring down the
                          value of the US currency. Imports would start to cost Americans a lot more and
                          as increasing numbers of those holding dollars began to spend them, the US
                          would have to start paying its debts by supplying in goods and services to
                          foreign countries, thus reducing American living standards. As countries and
                          businesses converted their dollar assets into euro assets, the US property and
                          stock market bubbles would, without doubt, burst. The Federal Reserve would no
                          longer be able to print more money to reflate the bubble, as it is currently
                          openly considering doing, because, without lots of eager foreigners prepared to
                          mop them up, a serious inflation would result which, in turn, would make
                          foreigners even more reluctant to hold the US currency and thus heighten the
                          crisis.
                          There is though one major obstacle to this happening: oil. Oil is not just by
                          far the most important commodity traded internationally, it is the lifeblood of
                          all modern industrialised economies. If you don’t have oil, you have to buy it.
                          And if you want to buy oil on the international markets, you usually have to
                          have dollars. Until recently all OPEC countries agreed to sell their oil for
                          dollars only. So long as this remained the case, the euro was unlikely to
                          become the major reserve currency: there is not a lot of point in stockpiling
                          euros if every time you need to buy oil you have to change them into dollars.
                          This arrangement also meant that the US effectively part-controlled the entire
                          world oil market: you could only buy oil if you had dollars, and only one
                          country had the right to print dollars - the US.
                          If on the other hand OPEC were to decide to accept euros only for its oil
                          (assuming for a moment it were allowed to make this decision), then American
                          economic dominance would be over. Not only would Europe not need as many
                          dollars anymore, but Japan which imports over 80% of its oil from the Middle
                          East would think it wise to convert a large portion of its dollar assets to
                          euro assets (Japan is the major subsidizer of the US because it holds so many
                          dollar investments). The US on the other hand, being the world's largest oil
                          importer would have, to run a trade surplus to acquire euros. The conversion
                          from trade deficit to trade surplus would have to be achieved at a time when
                          its property and stock market prices were collapsing and its domestic supplies
                          of oil and gas were contracting. It would be a very painful conversion.
                          The purely economic arguments for OPEC converting to the euro, at least for a
                          while, seem very strong. The Euro-zone does not run a huge trade deficit nor is
                          it heavily indebted to the rest of the world like the US and interest rates in
                          the Euro-zone are also significantly higher. The Euro-zone has a larger share
                          of world trade than the US and is the Middle East’s main trading partner. And
                          nearly everything you can buy for dollars you can also buy for euros - apart,
                          of course, from oil."
                          "All of this is bad news for the US economy and the dollar. The fear for
                          Washington will be that not
                          • Gość: adas442 CZYTAM thx aaa ...... IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 15.09.05, 14:04
                            widze ze znasz sie na rzeczy, bede mial jeszcze moze pytania w dalszej czesci
                            pracy... w sumie to nawet dzis cos zapodam, dzieki jeszcze raz ;]
                            • Gość: adas442 TRUE OR FALSE IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 15.09.05, 16:36
                              mam pytanie, czy wszystko jest ok ? Pisze o Bilansie platniczym, to nazly do
                              wstepu...

                              International transactions are classified as credits or debits. Credit
                              transactions are those that involve the receipt of payments from foreigners.
                              Debits transactions are those that involve the making of payments to foreigners.
                              Credit transactions are entered with the positive sign, debit transaction are
                              entered with the negative sign in the nation’s balance of payments. . So, the
                              export of goods and service, gifts (unilateral transfers) received from
                              foreigners and capital inflows are entered as credits (positive sign) because
                              they involve the receipt of payments from foreigner. On the other hand, the
                              import of goods, services, gifts made to foreigners and capital outflow involve
                              payments to foreigners and are entered as debits (negative sign) in the nation’s
                              balance of payments.
                              Capital inflow can take to forms: increase in foreign assets in the nation or
                              reduction in the nation’s assets abroad. For instance, when a U.S. resident
                              purchases U.K. stock – foreign assets in the U.K. increases-it is a capital
                              inflow to the U.K. and it is recorded as a credit in the U.K. The capital
                              inflow as a reduction of nation’s assets abroad occurs when a U.K. resident
                              sells foreign stock – U.K. asset abroad decreases
                              On the other hand, capital inflow can emerge as an increase in nation’s assets
                              abroad or a reduction in foreign assets in nation, because both involve a
                              payment to foreigners. Consequently, the purchase of U.S. Treasury bill by U.S.
                              resident’s increases U.K assets abroad, it is a debit because involves a payment
                              to foreigners. Similarly the sale of its U.K. subsidiary by a German firm
                              reduces foreign assets in the U.K., it is also a debit
            • yanvreolny Re: US DOLLAR: Nie chsesz- trzymaj kase w rublach 06.10.05, 21:22
              meerkat1 napisał:

              > "Glupis, sprzedawczyku.
              > > Yankesi drukuja papier i wymuszaja jego akceptacje na swiecie—glown
              > ie dla
              > > zakupu"
              >
              > A jak to Jankesi wymuszaja?
              >
              > Okupujac najpierw Kanade i Meksyk, potem Zwiazek Sowiecki i Chiny, a na koncu
              > Lichtenstein i Szwajcarie? :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

              Okupowac teraz mozna i bez wojska.
    • Gość: meerkat DOLAR- NAJBEZPIECZNIEJSZA WALUTA SWIATA IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 15.09.05, 08:56
      I to tlumaczy , dlaczego eksporterzy ropy i gazu sprzedaja ja wylacznie za $$$?

      I dlaczego setki milionow indywidualnych ciulaczy na caly swiecie, trzyma swe
      oszczednosci na kontach dolarowych?

      Przeciez oni moga kupowac- i kupuja masowo- chinski chlam- za juany.:-)))

      Niejeden trzymal pieniadze w materacu - splolenly.

      Niejeden trzyml w szwajcarskim baku- zabrali po odtajnieniu kont.

      Niejeden trzymal w DM- zlikwidowali i wymienili na euro za...polowe wartosci.

      Niejeden trzymal w zlotowkach, wloskich czy tureckich lirach, ktore wymieniono
      lub zdewaluowano, tak ze biedak zostal z taczkami pelnymi makulatury.

      Tylko US$ sie od poczatku trzyma, juz chocby z tego wzgledu, ze USA to nie
      tylko najpotezniejsza gospodarka swiata, ale i najpotezniejsze i najbardziej
      stabilne panstwo. Zanim ono padnie, padna wszystkie inne, wiec
      zmartwienia i tak nie bedzie.

      Poza tym, drogi licealisto, nie wiem czy wiesz, ale jak znajdziesz gdzies na
      strychu banktoty dolarowe z roku np. 1831 (powstanie listopadowe), to ci je
      kazdy bank amerykanski przyjmie lub wymieni na nowe.

      O zlotych swinkach z lat 1920-tych nawet nie mowie! :-)))


      • adas442 Re: DOLAR- NAJBEZPIECZNIEJSZA WALUTA SWIATA 15.09.05, 09:54
        dzieki ze odpowiedz, pytalem czemu w Bilansie platiczym jest uzywane USD ?
        ......a np czemu nie euro ? To ze na koncu padnie USD to wiemy;]

        ps jestem studentem 3 roku;]
        • Gość: meerkat1 Re: DOLAR- NAJBEZPIECZNIEJSZA WALUTA SWIATA IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 15.09.05, 15:10
          adas442 napisał:

          > dzieki ze odpowiedz, pytalem czemu w Bilansie platiczym jest uzywane USD ?
          > ......a np czemu nie euro ? To ze na koncu padnie USD to wiemy;]
          >
          > ps jestem studentem 3 roku;]


          Bo pewnie w rublach jest na razie nadal niepolitycznie!

          Ale moze wroci (wraz z RWPG, za ktorym wielu tu teskni, podobnie jak za UW :-)))

          [dla mlodszych: UW = Uklad Warszawski :-)))]
        • kapitalizm Re: DOLAR- NAJBEZPIECZNIEJSZA WALUTA SWIATA 15.09.05, 22:18
          adas442 napisał:

          > dzieki ze odpowiedz, pytalem czemu w Bilansie platiczym jest uzywane USD ?
          > ......a np czemu nie euro ? To ze na koncu padnie USD to wiemy;]
          >
          > ps jestem studentem 3 roku;]


          ....choc ludzie czesto w zyciu prywatnym, spolecznym czy politycznym kieruja
          sie sypatia/antypatia, to gdy przychodzi podjac decyzje finansowe zawsze
          kieruja sie zyskiem,

          stad wiekszosc bankow swiata za walute wzorcowa wybiera $ nie dlatego, ze
          kochaja USA, lub sie ich boja, ale dlatego, ze w dlugim okresie czasu USA
          posiada najbardziej stabilna i dochodowa gospodarke - gdyby w USA srodkiem
          platniczym byl amerykanski ketchup, wszystkie banki w zapasach trzymalyby ten
          towar,

          teorie spikowe dobre sa dla takich frustratow jak 'keily' czy inni naiwni -
          dla bankierow i calego swiata finansowwego licza sie tylko dochody,

          tak robia nie tylko wszystkie powazne i liczace sie banki na swiecie, ale
          rowniez osoby prywatne, w tym Lenin, Hitler, Husajn - raczej wrogowie Ameryki,

          zreszta na marginesie, cale to zagadnienie sprowadza sie nie do waluty, ale
          assets (oprocz zaufania, oczywiscie), ktore sa pokryciem wartosci dolara -
          czyli do tego skad sie bierze wealth na swiecie,

          wealth (bogactwo) - nie pieniadze,

          jezeli jestes zainteresowany tym - daj znac.

      • keily Lubie sie posmiac z rana :))))) 15.09.05, 13:54
        Gość portalu: meerkat napisał(a):


        >
        > Niejeden trzyml w szwajcarskim baku- zabrali po odtajnieniu kont.
        >
        > Niejeden trzymal w DM- zlikwidowali i wymienili na euro za...polowe wartosci.

        Dawaj jeszcze,bo dobre to , szczegolnie z DM :)))
        Zreszta to drugie tez niezle , hahahaaa!
        • Gość: meerkat Re: Lubie sie posmiac z rana :))))) IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 15.09.05, 15:07
          Ano zapytaj Niemiaszkow, czemu tak teksnia za DM i zaczynaja rozwazac odwrot
          od "ojro"? Bo tak zyskali? :-)))

          • keily Re: Lubie sie posmiac z rana :))))) 15.09.05, 17:41
            Mnie tak rozbawila ta wymiana 1:2 najbardziej.
            Czyli Wlosi najbardziej dostali w dupe, bo im wymienili 1:2000, prawda ?
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