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18.03.04, 16:30
Zeby nie wygladalo ze wszyscy Niemcy olali Zydow w tej wojnie bo to jest zbyt
wymowne , to musieli kreowac szlachetnego Niemca , zbawiciela Zydow ,...
Schindler od poczatku kierowal sie czysto materialnymi motywami i byl szuja ,
a kiedy z wschodniego frontu zaczely naplywac zle wiadomosci , pierwsze
jaskolki ze Rzesza kaput i zaczelo sie przygrzewac w dupe "odezwal" sie w nim
czlowiek i zaczal "ratowac" Zydow" za wszelka cena ,... Za gruba cene , bo
tylko tych , ktorych bylo na to stac ! Owszem interweniowal u wysokich ranga
wojskowych i wplywowych przemyslowcow , robil to zawsze z przygotowana przez
kogos lista .(czyzby lista Kastnera?) Czesto na liscie byli ludzie , ktorzy w
poprzedni dzien znalezli sie w obozie i trafiali do fabryki mimo ze nic nie
wiedzieli na temat produkcji , co go bardzo frustrowalo bo mial problemy
wywiazac sie z narzuconego planu ,... Moj maz nie zrobil nic w zyciu za darmo
i do konca zyl z Zydow - Tak wypowiada sie zona Schindler'a ,...
Spielberg albo tez dal sie uwiesc syjonistom , albo bardzo chcialby w to
wierzyc , ze nie wszyscy Niemcy ,...
A tu cos dla ABE , z nadzieje ze nie doprowadze cie do bialej goraczki ,...
Zaplata dla twojego dziadka - Zydowska strona gdzie sie wybiela Herr
Schindler i kopie w dupe Polakow , zauwaz ! Polskie obozy ,...
Ja tez nieraz przygladam takim neceser i innym szujom i trudno opedzic sie od
mysli o tych , ktorzy ryzykowali wszystko ratujac Zydow bo tylko w okupowanej
Polsce placilo sie za to zyciem a nierzadko placila cala rodzina w wyniku
kolektywnej odpowiedzialnosci . To samo zaadoptowano z powodzeniem i poparciem
czesci spoleczenstwa w dzisiejszym Izraelu w porachunkach z rodzinami
zamachowcow ktorzy maja czelnosc walczyc z okupantem mozliwym im sposobem .
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In those years, millions of Jews died in Polish camps like Treblinka and
Auschwitz, home8.inet.tele.dk/aaaa/Schindler2.htm
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A Spielberg juz wiele razy udowodnil ze potrafi krecic tylko fantastyke
naukowa. Nawet wtedy, gdy probuje zrobic powazny film.
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A tu dla tych ktorzy mi beda wsadzac palca w oko , ze ja oczywiscie z
terrorystami , mordercami niewinnych sympatyzuje ,...
uklony
March 17, 2004
Terrorists – and Freedom Fighters? by Patrick J. Buchanan
Between 1971 and 1973, he was commander of the Derry Brigade of the
Provisional IRA, which fought gun battles with British soldiers in a war that
would cost 320 lives.
Arrested in Donegal near a car loaded with 5,000 rounds of ammunition and 250
pounds of explosives, he was sentenced to six months by a court whose
jurisdiction he denied, "I am a member of the Derry Brigade of the (IRA) and
am very, very proud of it."
A Londonderry official called him "a cold-blooded ruthless terrorist (who)
will weigh up the consequences of his actions only in terms of benefit to the
IRA, regardless of the cost in human lives." Another said he was
a "fanatic ... responsible for mass murder."
He himself has spoken of the "legal and moral right of the IRA to kill a
British soldier at any time," and was once quoted: "Freedom can be gained
only at the point of an IRA rifle, and I apologize to no one for saying that
we support the freedom fighters of the IRA."
He is Martin McGuinness. And the same March 13 New York Times that carries
the picture of millions of Spaniards protesting the murderous terror attack
on the Madrid trains has a photo of McGuinness chatting amiably with John
Kerry before McGuinness spoke at Harvard.
Is it then true that "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"?
After all, many Irish consider McGuinness and his Sinn Fein comrade Gerry
Adams, whom Bill Clinton invited to the White House for St. Patrick's Day, as
freedom fighters in the tradition of the "martyrs" of the "Easter Rising" of
1916, celebrated by the poet W. B. Yeats.
As the president swears eternal war on terrorism, it is time to ask: Who is a
terrorist? Exactly what is terrorism? Have we not ourselves sometimes
breached our commitment "never to negotiate with terrorists"? Have we
Americans also engaged in terrorism?
Terrorism has been defined as the murder or massacre of innocent men, women
and children for political ends. In that sense, 9-11 qualifies, as do the
Hamas bombings of buses in Jerusalem.
But looking back over the 20th century, no fewer than three Israeli prime
ministers have been accused of terrorism: Menachem Begin, whose Irgun blew up
the King David Hotel and carried out the massacre of Palestinian villagers in
Deir Yassin in April of 1948. Yitzhak Shamir, head of the Stern Gang that
murdered Edward Lord Moyne in Cairo in 1944 – enraging Churchill, who gave
Moyne's eulogy – and assassinated U.N. mediator Count Bernadotte in Jerusalem
in 1948.
Ariel Sharon, as head of Force 101, is accused of massacring scores of
Palestinian villagers at Qibya in 1953 in a reprisal raid for the murder of
an Israel woman and her children.
Nobel Prize winner Yasser Arafat has been charged in the cold-blooded
assassination of U.S. Ambassador Cleo Noel in the Sudan in 1973. His PLO is
an umbrella group embracing organizations for whom the weapon of choice in
the war against Israel is terror.
Nelson Mandela, another Nobel Peace Prize winner, did not get life
imprisonment on Robben Island for sitting in at lunch counters, but if memory
serves, for plotting terror to overthrow the regime.
Jomo Kenyatta, the "Grand Old Man" of Africa in the 1960s, was the leader of
the Mau Mau in the 1950s. Ahmed Ben Bella led Algeria's war of independence,
in which terror was the insurgents' weapon and torture the counter-weapon of
the French.
During Tet in 1968, the Viet Cong went through the city of Hue with hit
lists, executing 3,000 civilians. Within months, America was
negotiating "peace with honor" with the V.C. US ties are now improving with
Hanoi, where the body of Ho Chi Minh lies in state, as does that of Mao in
Beijing and Lenin in Moscow. All three employed terror.
What is Nagasaki – the atomic bombing of a defenseless city of a defeated
nation – other than an act of slaughter, killing 40,000 men, women and
children in minutes to force Japan's warlords to submit to America's will?
But that was war, we say, and Japan was the aggressor. Does that also justify
Dresden? Is air terror permissible in a just war if a nation can demonstrate
it was the victim of aggression?
Saddam's Iraq did not threaten us, did not attack us, did not want war with
us, did not have weapons of mass destruction. Yet, we attacked, invaded and
occupied Iraq. And when Iraqis attack our troops, we call it terror and we
call them terrorists.
Is terrorism, then, like beauty, in the eye of the beholder?
John Brown murdered men in Kansas in reprisal for the killing of Northerners
and killed civilians in his raid on Harper's Ferry to ignite a slave revolt.
Brown was hanged as a terrorist. Yet the 1920s epic poem on the Civil War
written by Stephen Vincent Benet would be titled, "John Brown's Body." And
the first lines of the fighting song of the Union army were: "John Brown's
body lies a-mouldering in the grave, but his soul goes marching on. Glory,
glory hallelujah."
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Or so it would seem.
