Komentarz Wojciecha Jagielskiego

[Gość: Windsor]

Bardzo trafna obserwacja i konkluzja.
Dla nas Polakow sfalszowane wybory przyniosly ponad 40-letni
dyktat "wybranych" i jestesmy teraz bardzo uczuleni na tego rodzaju
przypadki, zwlaszcza, gdy jestesmy tam bezposrednio zaangazowani, czyli
bioracy w tym udzial.
Kolejny przyklad na to, jak niewiele trzeba partackiej roboty "amatorow"
azeby wielkie plany zasiania dobra przyniosly taki chwast.
Abu Ghraib jest pierwszym przykladem, teraz wybory w Afganistanie.
Jest takie powiedzenie w Kanadzie " jedno zle jablko wystarczy azeby zgnoic
caly buszel".
Pasuje , jak ulal.
Jest to mala z tego pociecha.
Jestem rownie zawiedziony, jak autor artykulu. Wyobrazam sobie wielki zal
Afganczykow, ktorzy mimo tak wielkich grozb pokazali, ze sercem dorosli do
demokracji. Swiat "przyjaciol" zawiodl ich bardzo, tak jak Polske w 1947.

POLSZCZYZNA-DZICZYZNA!!!!!!

[astygmatyk]

>....przesadą byłoby określanie afgańskich wyborów zarówno mianem sukces, jak i
>klęską.
Chyba raczej ..... mianem sukcesU jak i kleskI.
Czyzby mianownik zostal zlikwidowany w GWnianej polszczyznie??

[Gość: Monika]

Szanowny Panie, bardzo prosze o odswiezenie swojej wiedzy z zakresu gramatyki
jezyka polskiego. SUKCES - to jest wlasnie mianownik. Uzywajac go GW bynajmniej
nie zlikwidowala zatem tego przypadku ze swojej polszczyzny.

Glupi jestes Jaglo / no ale na PIERWSZEJ stronie!!

[Gość: z Polski z Chicago]

Glupi 'distortionist' jestes Jagielski.
Jakas 'agenda' to ty bracie masz ....

(po tylu latach niepokoju, wreszcie ludzuie maja jakas lepsza szanse na
przyslosc, no ale dla ciebie to jest napewno 'niewyztarczajace' no bo ty bys to
zrobil 'prefect' co nie gosciu? no glitches in your program for sure ...

Zaquotuje Cie bracie, to show your stupid liberal slant of the NEWS (its better
that you just REPORT) bo twoja osobista opinia jest marna

quote:
"Wyborcze święto POPSULI Afgańczykom ... ich własna pazerność i nieufność ...
bałaganiarstwo łaknących ... zagranicznych organizatorów."

To chyba wystarczy, a ty Jaglo to dobrego slowa nie zalujesz
(mialem znajomych w Iraqu i Afganistanie ze strony POL/USA i naprawde wiezyli w
to co robia / (nie w bomby laserowe jak to bys lubial pisac swoim kibicujacym
Eurocentristom/CNNczykom/iBBCczykom)

Gina ludzie bezimienni, a ich poswiecenie jest w imieniu odbudowania
zniszczonych przez tryranie narodow. (chocby tylko kilku na start)
Wiele mlodych ludzi (nawet jezeli zycie Amerykanow nie jest tobie duzo warte)
sie poswieca, a nawet nie musi ... czy TO rozumiesz!!!

ty tam Jaglo jestes dla wlasnej slawy a oni z prawdziwego poswiecenia
Ja ich wysilek BARDZO doceniam, nawet jezeli wyniki nie sa zawsze na 'A'/(cz na
ta twoja '6')

Wiem ze chcialbys zeby twoja 'liberal/defeatist ideologia' byl 'number 1' ale
niestety coraz blizej jestes(cie) 'self-interested loosers' do zera.

Wiec staraj sie czesto byc na pierwszej stronie i rob sobie kariere

ich trudu i poswiecenie nie okreslaj jako
"Popsute ... bałaganiarstwo łaknących ..."

twoj strach przed jakimkolwiek malym powodzeniem Ameryki w tych ostatnich
starciach/wojnach jest po prostu HILARIOUS bracie
to co ty i 'Stara Europa' czyje, to sie chyba nazywa 'robienie w gacie'
A raci nie macie bracie

peace
in the middle east

sie powodzenia policy Amerykanskiej raczej nie bede nawet nie czytalem do
koncia bo jestes gostek GLUPI...

[Gość: Monika]

Ojej, ojej, ojej. Az szkoda wzroku psuc na czytanie tych bzur! I to napisanych
kiepska polszczyzna! Najpierw Szanowny Pan nauczylby sie poprawnie wyslawiac, a
potem bluzgac polskich dziennikarzy!!!

a Windsor glupi jak Jaglo

[Gość: z Polski z Chicago]

you too !!! docen tego co sie stara ...

A Ty polski chicagijczyku skąd sie urwał...

[Gość: polski chłop]

A Ty polski chicagijczyku skąd sie urwałeś??? Człowieku (doceń te wielkie C -
choć nie powinienem dla Ciebie stosować), ta wizyta zaoceaniczna pomieszała Ci
nie tylko języki (takimi blubrami dawno oczu nie męczyłem) ale i kierunki
logicznego myślenia. Chłopie za dużo spożywasz bigMc'ków i naprionowanej
wołowiny. Chrońcie nas Bogowie przed prorokami mieszającymi zmysły.

A ty co? Kochanek Jagielskiego? Co do stylu etc.

[Gość: .]

to Chicago ma racje - GW robi sie coraz bardziej niechlujna, coraz bardziej
oszczedza na dobrych piorach. A moze to dobre piora wypinaja sie na Wybiorcza?
Jestes na miejscu, w Warszawce, powinienes wiedziec.

Do amerykanskiego Polaka(?)

[jprus]

Na Pana miejscu nie spieszylabym sie z tymi obrazliwymi zdaniami pod adresem W.
Jagielskiego, jest ostatnia osoba, ktora mozna posadzic o brak rzetelnosci i
wypisujac te bzdury, obraza Pan nie tylko jego, ale takze ludzi, ktorzy go
cenia i szanuja, do ktorych ja sie zaliczam. W przeciwienstwie do Pana,
Jagielski byl w Afganistanie i widzial na wlasne oczy to, o czym Pan moze tylko
przeczytac w gazetach (niewatpliwie glownie amerykanskich).
Drobna uwaga na temat wspolczesnej Polski (najwidoczniej dawno Pan nie byl) -
w pewnych kregach obrzucanie bezzasadnymi zarzutami i wyzwiskami juz dawno nie
jest uznawana forma dialogu.
Justyna P.

[Gość: Roman]

List pana z Chicago jest niestety symptomatyczny. Sam spedzilem w
"Nasluszniejszym z Krajow" kilka lat (jako visiting professor - nie jako
emigrant) i widzialem podobnych osobnikow wielokrotnie. Uwielbienie dla Wuja
Sama lacza z rasizmem, prawicowymi pogladami, nienawiscia do Unii Europejskiej i
prowincjonalna glupota. Ciekawe, czy mamy tu do czynienia z efektem selekcji (do
Chicago emigruja najglupsi wsrod Polakow), czy tez z cechami
nabytymi w wyniku ciaglego ogladania Fox TV i czytania USA Today? Tak czy owak,
wynika z
tego jeden wniosek praktyczny: powinnismy wplynac na naszych przedstawicieli w
Sejmie RP, aby
rodakow zza oceanu pozbawic glosu w Krajowych wyborach. W Stanach - niech sobie
glosuja
na Ku Klux Klan, Busha II, czy kogo tam jeszcze wykombinuja - od Polski - wara!

Visiting professor (only?!?) you misjudged!

[Gość: Z Polski Z Chicago]

Hey,

this is to the 'visiting professor' who doesn't like 'my' Polish.

i would venture to guess that the university/community college you Visited
didn't like you much, since they DIDN'T KEEP YOU - maybe it was your flawed
reasoning

it is possible that the idea of staying in the USA as an 'associate or tenure
track' professor would be tempting for you ... but i guess they just didn't
offer... :)

so its nice that you visited, and now you think you got this country figured
out, right? well, a visiting professor's 'English' (not American) must be
fairly good, or they just not going to keep YOU ... and all you could do was to
criticize my polish ... NOW cirticize my English in English professor.

From now on (in English) ... i will break you down.

Since you visited the 'horrible USA' you might even know UNIVERSITY i attended
and you might even know what B.A and J.D. mean!?!? but that's already too much
information for you.
hey, did you notice how you used the little personal information i gave you to
try to belittle me and not my argument??? from what he wrote, YOU professor
cannot tell that Jagielski has a huge bias, he's YOUR friend... you have a need
to support him... in order to rationalize and validate your own selfishly flawed
view of world events

you seem to have an inferiority complex (common to Poles who can't handle being
worse of that their neighbor) so all you can do is criticize you can't stand it
when someone is doing good, and most of all, when someone is doing BETTER than
YOU. so you would rather see that person/gov (USA) fail, than to see them succeed.
that success would just destroy you (and your reasoning) and that would be bad
for both of you, along with Jagielski. i'm sure when the terroritst read crap
such as Jagielski writes, they say 'alright, finally some GOOD news'.

I am sure Afghanistan has a better chance than it has had in a LONG time.
this eleciton 'might' be historic for Afghans and it 'might' bring peace,
but you and Jagielski would make everyting 100% and for 'sure'/ no doubt in your
plan.

But, REMEMBER, unless someone stepped in, the Afghans wouldn't have a 'flawed'
election, they would have N O N E !!! and what would Jagielski write then ...
'Same story in Afghanistan, Taliban still in power, and getting stronger.' or he
would write nothing at all ... and you professor would read some other crap he
wrote...

The QUOTEs from Jagielski show his slant and bias.
Can he be any more negative??? Maybe the Soviets would do a better job and
deserve a second chance???

Jagielski may be a great reported but his opinion sucks.

I've seen it before, the man is ALL CRITICISM but no solutions. That is the
eaiest thing to do. (but of course i forgot, wasn't Germany and France about to
set both Afghan/Iraq free, only the US got in the way, right?)

I'm sure Chirac would not let all the 'Oil for Food' $$$millions they got from
Saddam to influence decision of 'his' coalition ... but then they all got $$$...

And yes, the US did deal with Saddam, but fellow you need to see that
relationship in light of the 'Cold War'. but i guess USA had nothing to do with
the present 'FREEDOM' that Poland enjoys. but, professor, its your human nature
to be ungreatful ...

Politics is like life, you can lead, follow, or GET OUT OF THE WAY...
Now, imagine life with USSR as the one in control, but i'm sure in your
imagination you see a Perfect world, as soon as the USA is out of the way ...

Emotions carry us sometimes, so sorry if i hurt your and Jagielskis' feelings.
but i assure you that if he writes crap like that i will break both of you down
... on each point

so show your legendary polish intellectual prowess (in English if you wish/can
visiting professor) and lets see what you can do/sat

you haven't seen anything yet
please try me!!!!

ps. did you or didn't you want to stay in the USA, why did you want to Visit
anyway??? you could have gone to Germany or France and shown your didsain for
the US that way. I'm sure the visit only reafirmed your dislike for the US, and
now you know everything. ungrateful

[Gość: xxx]

First I would like to congratulate you on your not-so-bad polish [I concluded
that it's not your first language]. I wish educated poles have equally good
command of another tongue. But to be quite honest I don't understand why you got
so excited about Jagielski. It's journalists business to criticize and draw
pweople's attention if somethinng is not quite perfect. I don't understand
either why you think that that criticizm aimed at US. Jagielski didn't allocated
blame to anyone. As far as I know the situation in Afganistan is [ at least
theoretically] under NATO control, UN is strongly involved as well. So should
Afganistan election turn out to be a colossal failure, it'll only show complete
'toothlessness' of so- called international community. Which would be a shame.
And if you really believe that Jagielski is biased and leftist I'd like to
recomend you BBC-world. Two years ago I sat with my eyes poping out watching
ducumentary on Cuba potraited as an economic and social success story. After
this expierience I use words like 'left-biased' more cautiously.

peace xxx, will Visiting professor write bck?

[Gość: z Polski z Chicago]

thanx xxx, you be right ...

kind of new to this ... probably doin' too much :) ... steppin on toes when i
shouldn't ...
emotional yes - not on every issue, but hypocrisy/self-interest seems really
bad, is it blatant here or is it me??? , to me - LIVES are at stake
(nato/coalition/civilian) - with 100% SUPPORT, success is still not assured. so
i support ... za zle slowa przepraszam :o

i might be often wrong and seldom right, but i KNOW i make SOME good points,
and some people can not acknowledge that ... but they will still find a way to
negate the entire argument ...
also, i actually enjoy Polish people, very quick to belittle and avoid any
couter-agruments, they are proud, proper, highly cultured and very well
informed, many trace back to great and historic/'szlachta' backgrounds ...
however, once you disregard their weak attempts to gain an advantage ... they
have nothin ... they were just never challenged ...

do uslyszenia
(narazie) z Chicago

ps.
and so i actually hope Roman/da visiting professor writes back so i can see
what else he's got ... , da professor wrote 'od Polski - wara' ... and that is
really hilarious
a sudden and beautiful partiotic surge, make sure Professor you profess it
often and in all those high places were YOU will be debating and deciding the
faith of YOUR nation
i promise to stay out the way ... don't fear ME ... you sure it is me you
should worry about