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Saddam-exploiting dead babies, torturing children

25.06.02, 02:40
How Saddam 'staged' fake baby funerals

The Iraqi dictator says his country's children are dying in their thousands
because of the West's embargoes. John Sweeney, in a TV documentary to be shown
tonight, says the figures are bogus. Here he reports from Iraq on his findings
Terrorism crisis - Observer special
Observer Worldview

Sunday June 23, 2002
The Observer

The witness against the government of Iraq walked stiffly into the room, metal
callipers buckled to heavy medical shoes. They had tortured her two years ago.
She is now four.
Her father had been suspected of involvement in a plot to kill Saddam Hussein's
psychopathic son, Uday. He fled to the north of Iraq, but the secret police,
the mukhabarat, came for his wife, still in Baghdad, and tortured her. When she
wouldn't break, they tortured 'Anna' in front of her.

Her father, 'Ali', is a thick-set Iraqi who worked in Saddam's privileged inner
circle. He described what they did to her: 'They had a wooden stick. They would
squeeze her feet and ask "Has Daddy called you?" - she understood - "Does Daddy
contact you?"'

She is a victim of Saddam's brutality, proof that he is prepared to dispense
violence against even his country's children. By a cruel irony, her father is
also witness to Saddam's efforts to portray those same children as victims of
Western sanctions, which he claims have cost hundreds of thousands of young
lives.

Osama bin Laden justified the 11 September attack on America by referring to a
million dead Iraqi children - killed by sanctions. But there is a belief among
many Iraqis that Saddam is inventing the numbers.

Ali, outraged that Saddam's torturers may have crippled his daughter for life,
spoke openly about how the regime's propaganda has faked mass baby funerals -
'evidence' of the 7,000 children under five the regime claims are being killed
each month by sanctions.

Small coffins, decorated with grisly photographs of dead babies and their ages -
'three days', 'four days', written usefully for the English-speaking media -
are paraded through the streets of Baghdad on the roofs of taxis, the
procession led by a throng of official mourners.

There is only one problem. Because there are not enough dead babies around, the
regime prevents parents from burying infants immediately, in the Muslim
tradition, to create more powerful propaganda.

The taxi drivers do what they are told - as everybody does in Saddam's Iraq -
to their evident disgust. Before Ali defected to the north, one friend of his,
a taxi driver, explained how it worked: 'I went to Najaf [a town 100 miles
south of Baghdad] a couple of days ago. I brought back two bodies of children
for one of the mass funerals. The smell was very strong.'

Ali continued: 'The taxi driver didn't know how long they'd been in freezers,
perhaps six or seven months. The drivers would collect them from the regions
and would be informed of when a mass funeral was arranged so they would be
ready. Certainly, they would collect bodies of children who had died months
before and been held for the mass processions.'

A second, Western source, went to visit visited a Baghdad hospital and, when
the official Iraqi minder was absent, was taken to the mortuary. There, a
doctor showed the source a number of dead babies, lying stacked in the
mortuary, waiting for the next official procession.

Anna was the youngest witness to child torture by the Iraqi government in an
investigation, The Mother of All Ironies, to be broadcast by BBC2's
Correspondent today. It found six other adult witnesses in the Kurdish safe
haven in the north - the only part of Iraq where people are free to speak.

The most chilling witness was one of Saddam's torturers, who was captured
spying against the Kurds this year. 'Kamal' told us: 'They would bring the son
in front of his parents, who were handcuffed or tied, and would start off with
simple methods of torture, such as cigarette burns. Then they started using
other methods of torture, more serious ones.

'They would tell the father that they'd slaughter his son, and they'd bring a
bayonet out, and if the parents didn't confess they'd kill the child. 'The
interrogator has the right to kill the child, or perform any other butchery,
whatever's necessary.' And then Kamal chuckled.

It is an absolute of the government of Iraq - and others - that thousands of
Iraqi children are dying every month because of sanctions. We managed to get a
cameraman to accompany a fact-finding trip into Iraq this year by the Great
Britain-Iraq Society, led by its chairman, Labour MP George Galloway.

At the start of the trip Galloway, in Iraq for the ninth time in two-and-a-half
years, said: 'Every six minutes an Iraqi child will have died under the
embargo. That's every six minutes of every day, of every night, every year for
12 years.'

In 1999 Unicef, in co-operation with the Iraqi government, made a retrospective
projection of 500,000 excess child deaths in the 1990s. The projection is open
to question. It was based on data from within a regime that tortures children
with impunity. All but one of the researchers used by Unicef were employees of
the Ministry of Health, according to the Lancet.

The dead babies are blamed by Saddam's regime on cancers and birth defects
which first appeared in 1991 and were, it says, caused by depleted uranium
weapons. While no one should underestimate the lethality of these weapons and
the stupidity of the US military machine, the claim does not make radiological
sense. According to Dr Nick Plowman, head of clinical oncology at St
Bartholomew's Hospital, London, the claim 'is ridiculous. It flies in the face
of everything learnt from Hiroshima and Nagasaki.'

Cancers do not develop overnight. Bombs that fell in 1991 could not have caused
cancers or birth defects in that year. Fast leukaemias might occur in four or
five years, heavy tumours around now, said Plowman.

Richard Guthrie, a chemical weapons researcher at Sussex University,
said: 'It's much more likely to be chemical weapons. There are serious clusters
of cancers in the south of Iraq near Basra. In the late Eighties, Basra was
almost taken by Iranian human-wave offensives, and Saddam stopped these by
dropping chemical weapons on them and, by accident, on his own people.

· John Sweeney's report will be shown in Correspondent on BBC2 at 7.15pm today


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    • kochanka Re: Saddam-exploiting dead babies, torturing children 25.06.02, 02:52
      A czy mozna sie spodziewac cos innego od takiego bydlaka ktory nawet uzyl bron
      chemiczna w swoim wlasnym kraju?

      yidele napisał(a):

      > How Saddam 'staged' fake baby funerals
      >
      > The Iraqi dictator says his country's children are dying in their thousands
      > because of the West's embargoes. John Sweeney, in a TV documentary to be shown
      > tonight, says the figures are bogus. Here he reports from Iraq on his findings
      > Terrorism crisis - Observer special
      > Observer Worldview
      >
      > Sunday June 23, 2002
      > The Observer
      >
      > The witness against the government of Iraq walked stiffly into the room, metal
      > callipers buckled to heavy medical shoes. They had tortured her two years ago.
      > She is now four.
      > Her father had been suspected of involvement in a plot to kill Saddam Hussein's
      >
      > psychopathic son, Uday. He fled to the north of Iraq, but the secret police,
      > the mukhabarat, came for his wife, still in Baghdad, and tortured her. When she
      >
      > wouldn't break, they tortured 'Anna' in front of her.
      >
      > Her father, 'Ali', is a thick-set Iraqi who worked in Saddam's privileged inner
      >
      > circle. He described what they did to her: 'They had a wooden stick. They would
      >
      > squeeze her feet and ask "Has Daddy called you?" - she understood - "Does Daddy
      >
      > contact you?"'
      >
      > She is a victim of Saddam's brutality, proof that he is prepared to dispense
      > violence against even his country's children. By a cruel irony, her father is
      > also witness to Saddam's efforts to portray those same children as victims of
      > Western sanctions, which he claims have cost hundreds of thousands of young
      > lives.
      >
      > Osama bin Laden justified the 11 September attack on America by referring to a
      > million dead Iraqi children - killed by sanctions. But there is a belief among
      > many Iraqis that Saddam is inventing the numbers.
      >
      > Ali, outraged that Saddam's torturers may have crippled his daughter for life,
      > spoke openly about how the regime's propaganda has faked mass baby funerals -
      > 'evidence' of the 7,000 children under five the regime claims are being killed
      >
      > each month by sanctions.
      >
      > Small coffins, decorated with grisly photographs of dead babies and their ages
      > -
      > 'three days', 'four days', written usefully for the English-speaking media -
      > are paraded through the streets of Baghdad on the roofs of taxis, the
      > procession led by a throng of official mourners.
      >
      > There is only one problem. Because there are not enough dead babies around, the
      >
      > regime prevents parents from burying infants immediately, in the Muslim
      > tradition, to create more powerful propaganda.
      >
      > The taxi drivers do what they are told - as everybody does in Saddam's Iraq -
      > to their evident disgust. Before Ali defected to the north, one friend of his,
      > a taxi driver, explained how it worked: 'I went to Najaf [a town 100 miles
      > south of Baghdad] a couple of days ago. I brought back two bodies of children
      > for one of the mass funerals. The smell was very strong.'
      >
      > Ali continued: 'The taxi driver didn't know how long they'd been in freezers,
      > perhaps six or seven months. The drivers would collect them from the regions
      > and would be informed of when a mass funeral was arranged so they would be
      > ready. Certainly, they would collect bodies of children who had died months
      > before and been held for the mass processions.'
      >
      > A second, Western source, went to visit visited a Baghdad hospital and, when
      > the official Iraqi minder was absent, was taken to the mortuary. There, a
      > doctor showed the source a number of dead babies, lying stacked in the
      > mortuary, waiting for the next official procession.
      >
      > Anna was the youngest witness to child torture by the Iraqi government in an
      > investigation, The Mother of All Ironies, to be broadcast by BBC2's
      > Correspondent today. It found six other adult witnesses in the Kurdish safe
      > haven in the north - the only part of Iraq where people are free to speak.
      >
      > The most chilling witness was one of Saddam's torturers, who was captured
      > spying against the Kurds this year. 'Kamal' told us: 'They would bring the son
      > in front of his parents, who were handcuffed or tied, and would start off with
      > simple methods of torture, such as cigarette burns. Then they started using
      > other methods of torture, more serious ones.
      >
      > 'They would tell the father that they'd slaughter his son, and they'd bring a
      > bayonet out, and if the parents didn't confess they'd kill the child. 'The
      > interrogator has the right to kill the child, or perform any other butchery,
      > whatever's necessary.' And then Kamal chuckled.
      >
      > It is an absolute of the government of Iraq - and others - that thousands of
      > Iraqi children are dying every month because of sanctions. We managed to get a
      > cameraman to accompany a fact-finding trip into Iraq this year by the Great
      > Britain-Iraq Society, led by its chairman, Labour MP George Galloway.
      >
      > At the start of the trip Galloway, in Iraq for the ninth time in two-and-a-half
      >
      > years, said: 'Every six minutes an Iraqi child will have died under the
      > embargo. That's every six minutes of every day, of every night, every year for
      > 12 years.'
      >
      > In 1999 Unicef, in co-operation with the Iraqi government, made a retrospective
      >
      > projection of 500,000 excess child deaths in the 1990s. The projection is open
      > to question. It was based on data from within a regime that tortures children
      > with impunity. All but one of the researchers used by Unicef were employees of
      > the Ministry of Health, according to the Lancet.
      >
      > The dead babies are blamed by Saddam's regime on cancers and birth defects
      > which first appeared in 1991 and were, it says, caused by depleted uranium
      > weapons. While no one should underestimate the lethality of these weapons and
      > the stupidity of the US military machine, the claim does not make radiological
      > sense. According to Dr Nick Plowman, head of clinical oncology at St
      > Bartholomew's Hospital, London, the claim 'is ridiculous. It flies in the face
      > of everything learnt from Hiroshima and Nagasaki.'
      >
      > Cancers do not develop overnight. Bombs that fell in 1991 could not have caused
      >
      > cancers or birth defects in that year. Fast leukaemias might occur in four or
      > five years, heavy tumours around now, said Plowman.
      >
      > Richard Guthrie, a chemical weapons researcher at Sussex University,
      > said: 'It's much more likely to be chemical weapons. There are serious clusters
      >
      > of cancers in the south of Iraq near Basra. In the late Eighties, Basra was
      > almost taken by Iranian human-wave offensives, and Saddam stopped these by
      > dropping chemical weapons on them and, by accident, on his own people.
      >
      > · John Sweeney's report will be shown in Correspondent on BBC2 at 7.15pm
      > today
      >
      >

    • yidele Re: Saddam-exploiting dead babies, torturing children 26.06.02, 21:57
      wio!!!
    • Gość: Tipi Re: Saddam-exploiting dead babies, torturing children IP: *.clvhoh.adelphia.net 26.06.02, 23:12
      yidele,
      Who cares what Sadam is doing. There is no one he can hurt, but people in his
      neighborhood, few Arabs and few Jews; Neither important to the success of the
      world community.
      • kochanka Re: Saddam-exploiting dead babies, torturing children 26.06.02, 23:55
        Gość portalu: Tipi napisał(a):

        > yidele,
        > Who cares what Sadam is doing. There is no one he can hurt, but people in his
        > neighborhood, few Arabs and few Jews; Neither important to the success of the
        > world community.

        Tipi, if you really think about it, what Iraq is doing has a lot to do with
        tensions between Arabs, Israel and the West. Osama Bin Laden himself said that
        dying babes in Iraq are one of the reasons why followers of Islam should kill
        America civilians. Do you remember Missiles being fired towards Israel during
        Gulf War? Israel wasn’t even involved in the conflict. Saddam is a bigger problem
        than you think and any plans for peace must include his removal from power.

      • yidele Re: Saddam-exploiting dead babies, torturing children 27.06.02, 00:28
        Iraq is perhaps the single largest & most powerfull gulf state ( tho' not ruled
        by militant Arabs) that has an on-going nuclear weapons program, a bio/chemical
        weapons program and virtually unlimited income ~ Sadam has proven in the past
        that he thinks nothing of using B/C weapons on his own people and together with
        their former enemy Iran is involved in training & equiping terrorist
        organizations. Make no mistake, the Israeli-Arab conflict is only the most
        visable manifestation of the power struggle in the middle east; If Saddam had
        been able to get Israel to retaliate during the gulf war, the coalition would
        have fallen apart, perhaps even some of its members would have joined Iraq in
        its campaign. IMHO Saddam would like nothing better than to involve Israel
        into its conflict with the US - this would strip virtually all support for such
        actions and might percipitate a region-wide war.
    • wojo_lubi_ciagnac_druta A kogo to interesuje ? 27.06.02, 00:18
      moze bys cos napisal o palestynskich dzieciach w East Jerusalem , gdzie
      twoi pobratyncy zburzyli im YMCA centrum
      • yidele Re: A kogo to interesuje ? 27.06.02, 00:31
        A jaki wpływ YMCA ma na sytuację regionu? Myslę ze Saddam jednak większą....

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