forebear????????

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i have a question:
is forebear only a male or also a female?
i dont understand how to use it
besides, do you know maybe a dictionary (on line)where I can find good and
detailed explanation of different words,such as the example above!I mean to
understand if it's a male or female,singular or plural only!
thankx

[amused.to.death]

it's any ancestor (though usually more remote than grandmother/father), can be either male or female.

There're many good dictionaries on-line.
Try to use google advanced search: www.google.pl/advanced_search?hl=pl , in 'ze wszystkimi słowami' box type in 'dictionary' and a word you're looking for, you'll get maaaanyyyy links, follow them, compare, and choose the dictionary that YOU like best.

thank you n/t

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[oryginal]

www.dictionary.com

[edgur]

My dictionary does not list "forebear" only "forbear". My memory tells me
that FOREBEAR is misspelled.
FOR means before while BEAR besides the animal has two meanings.
First - To Carry/Bring forth/Give birth.
Second - TO Suffer/Tolerate.
So based on first meaning - Ancestor, as previous reply.
But due to the second also means To Bear With or To Hold Oneself in
Check/Control.

[amused.to.death]

> My memory tells me that FOREBEAR is misspelled.

Sometimes it's not a good thing to rely on your memory.
Both spellings are correct.

YOU ARE ALL WRONG!

[republican]

amused.to.death napisała:

> > My memory tells me that FOREBEAR is misspelled.
>
> Sometimes it's not a good thing to rely on your memory.
> Both spellings are correct.

Both spellings are correct, but:

THEY HAVE TOTALLY DIFFERENT MEANINGS!!!!!!!!!!!
Vide
www.m-w.com/
PS Once again I highly recommend the above dictionry, use it and learn!!!!!!!!

[amused.to.death]

And I DO recommend checking everything WELL, and maybe consulting MORE THAN ONE dictionary, before proudly pronouncing yourself as the ONE who is right, because obviously you're WRONG.

[republican]

amused.to.death napisała:

> And I DO recommend checking everything WELL, and maybe consulting MORE THAN
ONE
> dictionary, before proudly pronouncing yourself as the ONE who is right,
becau
> se obviously you're WRONG.
>
Details, not generalities please. It is not amusing what you write.

[amused.to.death]

> Details, not generalities please. It is not amusing what you write.

Dear Republican, I counted on your ability to search the Web and use other dictionaries (other than webster, I mean)
:)

[asia23bb]

Quoting after Cambridge dictionary:
'Definition
forebear, forbear (!!)
noun [C usually plural] FORMAL
a relative who lived in the past; an ancestor

(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)

There's not a thing about different meanings, neither there is in Webster
you've given.

MOST OF YOU HAD A POINT.

[jtt23]

> There's not a thing about different meanings, neither there is in Webster
> you've given.

forebear is ONLY ancestor.

forbear has multiple meanings, including ancestors, but also (verb) "not doing something". As in "she could not forbear weeping" (meaning: refrain from weeeping) OR more elegantly "The King In open battle or the tilting field/ Forbore his own advantage."

PS. Dear Asia23bb, only because it says "Cambridge" on a dictionary does not imply its the source of all wisdom.

[zegar4]

>
> forebear is ONLY ancestor.
>
> forbear has multiple meanings, including ancestors,

No.

PS. Dear Asia23bb, only because it says "Cambridge" on a dictionary does not
imply its the source of all wisdom.


The prefix fore- in "forebear" means before, in front. It can be found in
forefather, forerunner, forearm, foretell, forefront, forego (a foregone
conclusion, foregiong), forehead,....

"For-" in "forbear" indicates a negative meaning or absence: forbid, forswear,
forgo (do without)....
Forbear uses the negative "for-".

Forebear and forbear are two different words. For some reason dictionaries
legitimize the spelling confusion, and you seem to have fallen victim to this.

[jtt23]

> Forebear and forbear are two different words. For some reason dictionaries
> legitimize the spelling confusion, and you seem to have fallen victim to this.

Two different words... Fancy that.

I think it may well be you who are confused. Language is not about strict rules of logic and about spelling being "right" or "wrong". It's about conventions and these conventions are then recorded in dictionaries. Therefore when a new spelling is included in a dictionary it is not "legitimising confusion", but accepting the fact that language changes all the time.

[asia23bb]

I agree it DOES have a few different meanings, but I spoke ONLY about the noun,
as it was given in the first post.

PS: Cambridge plus Webster :)

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Foreplay and not forplay !!!! Amused??????

[republican]

"(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)"
cited above, conveys "magic" of Cambridge to some lesser minds.
What the hell is
Advanced Learner ( 5 or 6 grader?)

As zear4 correcrly points out:

""The prefix fore- in "forebear" means before, in front. It can be found in
forefather, forerunner, forearm, foretell, forefront, forego (a foregone
conclusion, foregiong), forehead,....

"For-" in "forbear" indicates a negative meaning or absence: forbid, forswear,
forgo (do without)....
Forbear uses the negative "for-".

Forebear and forbear are two different words. For some reason dictionaries
legitimize the spelling confusion, and you seem to have fallen for it"

Aplying your logic Dear Amused to Death we would have FOREPLAY an FORPLAY (ever
tried the first one? )

Consult some reputable Dictionaries in printed version(not condensed Internat
crap) before making impeetinent statements for the world to read!

"Ja cie uczyc kaze"- know who wrote it?

[amused.to.death]

> Aplying your logic Dear Amused to Death

It has nothing to do with my logic... never mentioned I reckon it logical or not. It's just what DIFFERENT dictionaries do: mention both spellings. Don't now why, though, because the very same dictionaries say only 'forefather' not 'forfather'...

> FOREPLAY an FORPLAY (ever tried the first one? )

At some age, an answer 'no' would make an aswering person a weirdo, wouldn't it?

> Consult some reputable Dictionaries in printed version
Well, I have. Most of them list both spellings. Obviously, we've got different dictionaries.

> "Ja cie uczyc kaze"- know who wrote it?
Taaa... ale nigdy nie lubiłam pozytywizmu.

just an afterthought...

[amused.to.death]

people here aren't forbearing... are they?

isn't it funny?

[jtt23]

isn't it funny that it's only non-natives who are really bothered about spelling and all these fine linguistic details? No Brit (or American, I'd expect) would give a rat's ass about the spelling of forebear or forbear or whatever.

Doesn't that reveal, somewhere deep-down, an immense insecurity with themselves that people try to cover up by achieving perfection in the utterly irrelevant art of spelling? (No offense to all the people who are helping others out in this forum-they're doing a great job, but this just struck me when I was reading through the discussion)

[amused.to.death]

> No Brit (or American, I'd expect) would give a rat's ass

Funny... I happened to meet many who would give a rat's ass to correct MY spelling.

[republican]

amused.to.death napisała:

> > No Brit (or American, I'd expect) would give a rat's ass
>
> Funny... I happened to meet many who would give a rat's ass to correct MY
spell
> ing.
>
I I KNEW THAT YOU ARE A FEMALE OF THE SPECIE I'D NEVER GET INVOLVED IN THIS
INTERCOURSE.
'NOW TO PARAPHRASE THE WRITER'
MOST HUMBLY DO I TAKE MY LEAVE MYLADY"

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