bylla 29.09.04, 03:08 - if he had a son and the son had to fight in Iraq? - if they took one of his daughters hostage - would he negotiate etc. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś Obserwuj wątek Podgląd Opublikuj
Gość: Tamtejszy Re: What would Bush do if IP: *.proxy.aol.com 29.09.04, 05:21 What would you do if your son or daugter was in Sadam's jail? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: What would Bush do if IP: *.va.shawcable.net 29.09.04, 05:48 I'm betting my last dollar that he would. Bush is trying to portray himself as a hero ( which he isn't and he hasn't done anything heroic in his life as far as I know) but it would only take that one move that you've mentioned to bring him down to his knees. Bush says 'You cannot show weakness in this world' but I do wonder like you what he would really do knowing that someone closest to his heart is tortured, no food, no water and gun to his/her head 24/7. Even if you make it unharmed physically (best case scenario),no therapy will ever make the psychological scars disappear. You will live with those for the rest of your life. You bet he would negotiate! I have seen Bush in numerous interviews and I honestly think the guy doesn't know ass from a hole in the ground. Once asked by 20/20 correspondent "Mr.President...do you think the war with Iraq is a war of choice or necessity", Bush ponders for a looooong time and you can tell he has a hard time figuring out the meaning of the question (also he has this really dumb look on his face). "He goes :"Oh, OK, OK....please, rephrase the question for me if you don't mind". What's there to rephrase? The other day Collin Powell was asked the very same question by Larry King and he understood the question perfectly well... But that's beside the point. I really don't like Bush, I don't trust him and I don't believe the whole war with Iraq was a necessary thing to do. I think he is a coward, he avoided being drafted himself and he knows that the war was all a waste of human life, money and much much more (and unfortunately still continues to be). He doesn't have the face to admit it but if it came right down to it, I have absolutely no doubt he would negotiate with the hostage takers to get his loved ones back. After all, it's not about you or me....it's about the head of the State who once suported the Vietnam war but decided it wasn't for him. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
harbour Re: What would Bush do if 29.09.04, 13:40 Gość portalu: natalie27 napisał(a): >> Bush says 'You cannot show weakness in this world' but no need to put apostrophy after world > don't believe the whole war with Iraq was a necessary thing to do. a necessary thing. (full stop) "to do" is unnecessary Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: What would Bush do if IP: *.va.shawcable.net 29.09.04, 19:46 Listen, are you always this picky or are you just making a special effort today? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
harbour Re: What would Bush do if 29.09.04, 23:52 Gość portalu: natalie27 napisał(a): > Listen, are you always this picky or are you just making a special effort No special effort necessary - the mistakes are obvious Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: What would Bush do if IP: *.va.shawcable.net 30.09.04, 02:07 like I give a rat's ass what you find! Do you want a medal? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
quickly You& & #35; 8217;re f***en moron harbour! 30.09.04, 07:12 Widze pajacu, ze ci juz zupelnie zaczelo odbijac... I tak smieciu nie masz do natalie27 podskoku. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: What a dumb topic n/t IP: *.va.shawcable.net 30.09.04, 02:07 I like it. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: wj Re: What a dumb topic n/t IP: *.nyc.rr.com 30.09.04, 05:52 Give me a break, please. Tell me what would Kerry do in a similar situation? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: What a dumb topic n/t IP: *.va.shawcable.net 30.09.04, 07:08 First of all, the question is whether Kerry would do something as dumb as Bush by getting himself into the war with Iraq. Would he go after weapons of mass destruction that no one has ever found. Would he get himself into a self defeating war with the extremists without the UN's support.I doubt that. Bush got himself into a real shit creek and it's going be hard to beat an enemy that believes death is a reward. What I like about the original topic for discussion is the fact that Bush himself "would never succumb to terrorism" but what Bush has done is talk (a mighty big talk) and so far he has walked a chicken walk. His decisions have been pathetic from square one. Could he stay the course and do what he preaches in case his daughters were in the terrorists hands? What do you think the American nation would think if he said: "I am the president, I don't mix with you common people, my family deserves a special consideration". The same question crossed my mind many times before while I was watching hostages captured and beheaded. It's a valid question and I like it. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
harbour Re: What a dumb topic n/t 30.09.04, 07:31 Gość portalu: natalie27 napisał(a): >> the terrorists hands? terrorists' hands >What do you think the American nation would think if > The same question crossed my mind many times before while I was watching The above does not make sense. What are you trying to say woman?? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: What a dumb topic n/t IP: *.va.shawcable.net 30.09.04, 07:44 f...off! that's what I have to tell you! Are you with Osama? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
quickly Re: What a dumb topic n/t 30.09.04, 08:07 Gość portalu: natalie27 napisał(a): > f...off! that's what I have to tell you! > Are you with Osama? I’ve already told you natali27 that harbour is a dickhead! (In other words a smelly, dirty prick... :)))) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
harbour Re: What a dumb topic n/t 30.09.04, 09:32 quickly napisał: > > I’ve already told you natali27 that harbour is a dickhead! (In other word > s a > smelly, dirty prick... :))) and how do you know quickly? Have you tasted it in your dreams? Dream on you little gay boy Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
quickly Not a dumb topic... 30.09.04, 07:59 natalie27, I’m sorry to say that… but most of those writing in here are Poles, and as you have probably found out, many of them are "deadly" pro-American (or rather, they are in love with the Bush’s (and his colleagues') policies. It doesn’t matter what arguments you may use, natali27, they’ll always think they know better… But maybe I'm wrong...??? ****************************************************************************** Common English language lovers, don't be shy, here is a good place to practice your lingo... :))) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: Not a dumb topic... IP: *.va.shawcable.net 30.09.04, 08:06 I don't have a problem with people that have opinions on certain issues. This is after all a discussion forum as well,isn't it? ( sometime you would never know it). I don't appreciate guys sitting on my ass like a hemorroid. If I need to deal with one, I will reach for Preparation H. Or maybe he blocked one too many hockey pucks? :) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
quickly Re: Not a dumb topic... 30.09.04, 08:18 Gość portalu: natalie27 napisał(a): > I don't have a problem with people that have opinions on certain issues. This > is after all a discussion forum as well,isn't it? ( sometime you would never > know it). I don't appreciate guys sitting on my ass like a hemorroid. If I need > to deal with one, I will reach for Preparation H. > Or maybe he blocked one too many hockey pucks? :) Don't worry natalie27; he's just an idiot! Nothing more, nothing less. Have you notice that he can only highlight spelling or stylistic mistakes, and nothing besides that...? I wouldn’t be surprised that his mum gave him (on his birthday perhaps) some sort of an electronic grammar checker (or something like that) and now this dickhead tries to make use of that... :))) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
harbour Re: Not a dumb topic... 30.09.04, 09:27 quickly napisał: > Gość portalu: natalie27 napisał(a): > > > I don't have a problem with people that have opinions on certain issues. > This > > is after all a discussion forum as well,isn't it? ( sometime you would ne > ver > > know it). > I don't appreciate guys sitting on my ass like a hemorroid. If I need > > > to deal with one, I will reach for Preparation H. > > Or maybe he blocked one too many hockey pucks? :) > > Don't worry natalie27; he's just an idiot! Nothing more, nothing less. Have > you notice that he can only highlight spelling or stylistic mistakes, and > nothing besides that...? I wouldn’t be surprised that his mum gave him (o > n his > birthday perhaps) some sort of an electronic grammar checker (or something like > > that) and now this dickhead tries to make use of that... :))) quickly, your English is of a very low standard. How embarassing! how many years have you been using English language? What an idiot! You better write here in Polish - you will avoid making a fool of yourself. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
quickly Re: Not a dumb topic... 30.09.04, 09:38 ...of a very low standard? It doesn't matter... More important is that I'm not a moron like you. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: bryzdygierowa Re: Not a dumb topic... IP: 67.111.137.* 30.09.04, 10:00 quickly it's time for you to shut up. natalie27, sounds like the assigned name for a seminar writer, wrote: > First of all, the question is whether Kerry would do something as dumb as Bush > by getting himself into the war with Iraq. Would he go after weapons of mass > destruction that no one has ever found. Would he get himself into a self > defeating war with the extremists without the UN's support.I doubt that. natalie27 you need to go back and read what Kerry said at the time. He would go after Saddam and his weapons unilaterally. He would spend way more money on the war. He would put more troops on the ground. Now he has changed his mind again and became a full fledged anti-war candidate. Remember Howard Dean? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
kluczyki Re: Not a dumb topic... 30.09.04, 10:22 natalie27 Forum jest by sobie nawzajem pomoc. Czyzbys byla nieomylna?? Przeciez innych korygujesz. quickly, takie rynsztokowe odzywki to zachowaj dla swoich kumpli ze swojego grona. Bez Ciebie bylo tutaj kulturalniej. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
harbour Re: Not a dumb topic... 30.09.04, 10:38 yeah, quickly is a funny fellow, not long ago he was thanking me for correcting his mistakes: .quickly napisal: "..ale natepnym razem: "no mercy" hehehe... watch out mate :))) Anyway thanks to you, I know that "approve" goes with "of..." and here suddenly, UNPROVOKED you are showering me with insults. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
quickly Re: Not a dumb topic... 03.10.04, 06:54 kluczyki napisała: > quickly, takie rynsztokowe odzywki to zachowaj dla swoich kumpli ze swojego > grona. Bez Ciebie bylo tutaj kulturalniej. Policjancie-Pajacu kulczyki, najlepiej bedzie jak sie sami zamkniecie. Kicius a gdzie jest twoj wklad w ta fascynujaca dyskusje, ehh? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 have a nice day! IP: *.va.shawcable.net 01.10.04, 00:41 >natalie27, sounds like the assigned name for a seminar writer, wrote: This place is practically dead when it comes to discussions on whatever subject. The only way a "discussion" happens here is by squawking at each other like a bunch of old birds, all at each others' throats. In any case, live and learn. Now,about Kerry... I don't understand what's so complicated about Kerry's position. He voted to give Bush authority and Bush screwed it up majorly. Kerry voted for a resolution to give Bush a go ahead on the war with Iraq BUT Kerry NEVER thought ONCE of going to war ALONE. Being a veteran himself he always called for an international coalition to confront Saddam Hussein and going to war was only an option of last resort. In other words, Kerry's decision flipped-flopped only because Bush misused his authority. Have a nice day. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: felusiak Re: have a nice day! IP: *.nyc.rr.com 01.10.04, 02:48 natalie just listen to this. Maybe you learn something. Your point on war authority is lauhable. kerry gave the president a blank check. Now he's saying he didn't know the president will write so many zeros on it. johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com/ Despite your misguided views I really like you. :-) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: have a nice day! IP: *.va.shawcable.net 01.10.04, 04:42 I wish I could say the same about you but my "laughable" or "misguided" views are MY views and I don't expect others to agree with me, let alone "learn something" from me. It's just a forum discussion and I think we are all entitled to our opinions. About Kerry...it's just a skillfully edited collage of audio excerpts to suit the Republicans and it's exactly what an ad is supposed to do. An intentional smear that you see all the time. To show you exactly my point as to how it's done, have a look at this: www.jimgilliam.com/2004/08/oreillys_smear_campaign_in_quicktime.php If we start getting into the smear advertising, we will run out of space and time. Here is an anti Bush add: www.moveonpac.org/donate/swiftresponse.html Again what Kerry said before was: "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: felusiak Re: have a nice day! IP: *.nyc.rr.com 01.10.04, 05:00 natalie27 wrote: > But what do really you expect of a guy that doesn't even know how to pronounce > "nuclear"...???? Dear natalie, you just have made a grave error. I thought you're smarter than that. Do you know that former president Jemmacarter cannot pronounce that word? Do you know that generally southerners including senators Byrd, Hollings, Miller, and late prez. Johnson had difficulty saying it? Shame on you. Don't you know it's "nucular" south of Mason-Dixon line? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: have a nice day! IP: *.va.shawcable.net 01.10.04, 05:25 Well, CBS was making fun of Bush yesterday, CNN the day before and ABC the day before that...national news! The collage of his misspellings was absolutely hilarious. I don't care where Bush is from. Collin Powell was raised in the skid rows of Brooklyn...do we expect him to speak like the rappers while wearing chains around his neck? I thought you're smarter than > that. I am NOT smart. I am the dumbest thing you have ever seen ...someone blew out my pilot light a looooong time ago. BTW. thanks for the info and NO I didn't know that. I think very few people do. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
harbour Re: have a nice day! 01.10.04, 09:53 Gość portalu: natalie27 napisał(a): >> I am NOT smart. I am the dumbest thing you have ever seen ...someone blew out my pilot light a looooong time ago. Oh yes, you ARE definitely smart (I will give you that!) and I am not talking only about your English but see natalie - smartness is not the only thing that matters in a human being. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
anglikk harbour, are you drunk???? 02.10.04, 02:41 Well, I am of the opinion that she is a pompous, rude, simple-minded bitch. As far as her English is concerned, she makes mistakes jsut like others here do. The only difference is that others accept corrections gracefully, whereas she kicks such as a fuss as if her self image (which depends on her knowledge of English) was the most important thing in her life. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
anglikk Re: harbour, are you drunk???? 02.10.04, 02:43 anglikk napisał: >mistakes jsut like others here do. JUST whereas she kicks UP such as a fuss as if her self image ( Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: harbour, are you drunk???? IP: *.va.shawcable.net 02.10.04, 03:04 Are you finished? That's it, you asshole? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
leanne Re: harbour, are you drunk???? 02.10.04, 07:36 Gość portalu: natalie27 napisał(a): > Are you finished? That's it, you asshole? Is that how guys here talk about women on this forum? No one I know would say anything like that about a woman he hasn't even met! That's pretty low. I will join the forum some other time. Maybe. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
polgebek Re: harbour, are you drunk???? 02.10.04, 08:47 leanne napisała: > Gość portalu: natalie27 napisał(a): > > > Are you finished? That's it, you asshole? > > Is that how guys here talk about women on this forum? > No one I know would say anything like that about a woman he hasn't even met! > That's pretty low. Oki, bye PS natalie27 is a woman, not a guy! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
leanne Re: harbour, are you drunk???? 02.10.04, 09:20 > Oki, bye > PS natalie27 is a woman, not a guy! I know. I am surprised that's all she told "Anglik". He deserves an earful from her and other guys here. What a creep! I have never seen abuse of this calibre anywhere else. Pretty sad. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
polgebek Re: harbour, are you drunk???? 02.10.04, 09:37 still here?? You promised to leave to be fair- note that the insults were started by her Read watek from the beginning. Somehow she manages to antagonise people - read other watki too. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
leanne Re: harbour, are you drunk???? 02.10.04, 10:44 polgebek napisał: > still here?? You promised to leave you are smart with me and I already don't like your attitude. > > to be fair- note that the insults were started by her > Read watek from the beginning. Somehow she manages to antagonise people - read > other watki too. There is no excuse for any man to speak to a woman in that fashion and I don't care what you want to tell me. That's disgusting and no woman should be exposed to this on any forum. I think this needs to be addressed as soon as possible. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
quickly Re: Not a dumb topic... 03.10.04, 07:04 Gość portalu: bryzdygierowa napisał(a): > quickly it's time for you to shut up. Hi bryndza! I'm so sorry that no one on this forum wants talk to you... poor baby... :((( and you had so much knowledge to share with others :( Anyway, I will say it in a nutshell what you should know: Bush is fucked:))) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
quickly Re: Not a dumb topic... 03.10.04, 07:17 Gość portalu: natalie27 napisał(a): >> I am NOT smart. I am the dumbest thing you have ever seen ...someone blew out my pilot light a looooong time ago. Oh yes, you ARE definitely smart (I will give you that!) and I am not talking only about your English but see natalie - smartness is not the only thing that matters in a human being. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- O cie Karol! Latasz caly czas za bogu ducha winna dziewczyna, jak ten jakis upierdliwy bak, czepiasz sie kazdego jej slowa, a teraz walisz takie aforyzmy? No wez stary usiadz i zastanow sie nad soba! Albo grzecznie rozmawiasz na tym forum, albo jak to Policjant-Pajac kulczyki napisal: "wont mi z tego forum". No dobra. Daje ci jeszcze jedna szanse... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
chickenshorts Re: What would Bush do... 03.10.04, 09:49 bylla napisała: > - if he had a son and the son had to fight in Iraq? Eh?!?... > - if they took one of his daughters hostage - > would he negotiate etc. ??? This is a tough one. However, all things considered, and given the President's overall aptitude, I would've thought that he'd... aptly... wait until Dickie & Rummy told him what to decide... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
don_gruber Re: What would Bush do... 03.10.04, 11:24 > This is a tough one. However, all things considered, and given the President's > overall aptitude, I would've thought that he'd... aptly... wait until Dickie & > > Rummy told him what to decide... As usual, you are dead on!!!! Wish you could see the quasi-debate. What a spectacle it was !!!!! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: What would Bush do... IP: *.va.shawcable.net 03.10.04, 18:52 Bush taking a slurp of water or downing a glass of it when he doesn't know what to say...one has to feel sorry for him. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: What would Bush do... IP: *.va.shawcable.net 03.10.04, 18:47 Chaney and Rumsfeld (and their gang) are running the show. Bush can't even tie his own shoe strings...wondering why he is wearing his cowboy boots?... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
arrroma Re: What would Bush do... 04.10.04, 01:23 Bush is ok and he is Poland's friend. Who knows what Kerry is really like? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
harbour Re: Not a dumb topic... 04.10.04, 00:08 quickly napisał: > No dobra. Daje ci jeszcze jedna szanse... What a psycho... You are joking right? You are not worthy of licking my boots Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
quickly A special post for harbour, the fuckwitt... 04.10.04, 07:36 harbour napisał: > quickly napisał: > > > No dobra. Daje ci jeszcze jedna szanse... > > > What a psycho... > You are joking right? You are not worthy of licking my boots -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- blondie, you ARE a dim-witted scoundrel… lick the donkey’s ass, faggot Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
harbour Re: What would Bush do if 04.10.04, 00:04 Bush appeared very nervous and unsure of himself and people do judge their leaders by their body language. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: What would Bush do if IP: *.va.shawcable.net 04.10.04, 01:02 I agree, Bush IS nervous and so is Kerry, even though he is not showing it. I think image is everything right now and how they come out at the end of this spectacle depends on how they can handle themselves in front of the cameras and some 67 million viewers. This is Bush's best chance to improve his "image" and so far he hasn't impressed too many people. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
harbour Re: What would Bush do if 04.10.04, 01:06 Bush comes across as a very vulnerable individual.You can' help but think that his daddy is behind the politics.George is his puppet. He definitely lacks substance. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
kupierczycki What's the temperature in this room? 04.10.04, 05:33 George is his puppet. Whose puppet? Is he his daddy's puppet or Cheney's puppet? What about Rumsfeld? How does he take it not being able to pull the strings? Is Powell out of the game? How many strings does he pull? If Bush the Elder, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Powell are pulling the strings how do they coordinate? Love you all but I must conclude that you are nuts writing such a gibberish not to say bullshit. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
abby7iron Re: What's the temperature in this room? 04.10.04, 06:11 > George is his puppet. Whose puppet? > Is he his daddy's puppet or Cheney's puppet? What about Rumsfeld? How does he > take it not being able to pull the strings? Is Powell out of the game? How many > strings does he pull? If Bush the Elder, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Powell are pullin > g > the strings how do they coordinate? why don't you tell us? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: What would Bush do if IP: *.va.shawcable.net 05.10.04, 00:40 True. Who will ever know how much influence the old man has on "young" Bush but if we invite those comparisons, it's hard not to notice that his daddy had also lost an election after liberating Kuwait from Iraq. I am hoping for the same to happen to the junior :) All in all, Bush's leadership is that America is now squarely in the sharpshooter's viewfinder of the terrorists and the country has become one giant bulls eye for them. The only way to get out alive is to get the hell out of Iraq or else you end up dying for their Allah with the rest of them - either on the Iraqi turf or right here in the States (seems like they are never short of ideas on how to blow up more American). Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: What would Bush do if IP: *.va.shawcable.net 05.10.04, 01:09 this was in reply to Harbour. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: felusiak What similarities, natalie ? IP: *.nyc.rr.com 05.10.04, 01:36 You can't compare it. In 1992 there was three way race with Perot snatching nearly 18% of the popular vote. Only in one state Clinton managed to win over 50% of the votes, Arkansas. Overall Clinton won the election with 370 electoral votes and a little over 43% of popular vote. The economy was lousy and cold war was won. The public was riped for change, striving for prosperity. Unemployment rate was hovering around 9%. At that time the people voted with their pocketbooks. What similarities can you see and I can't? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: What similarities, natalie ? IP: *.va.shawcable.net 05.10.04, 02:33 You just said it. The economy was bad then as it is now. Tax cuts to the wealthy failed to craete jobs under Bush Sr. The same is happening now. The job gains under Bush are mostly in lower-paying service jobs - manufacturing jobs still keep falling.The only economy that's getting stronger is the economy of the wealthy elite who funds Bush's campaign. Bush's so called "jobless recovery" is a joke. Look at some serious numbers from the Labor Dept. They are dismal.But Bush keeps patting himself on the shoulder while the whole country is tired of the lay offs, job cuts and a President who is unable to effectively manage and spark the economy.People are stuck in a "jobless recovery"...nice term though. What about all the cozied up relationship between the two Bushes with Saudi Arabia. Bush Jr is just as guilty of the support and corruption that led to 9/11.Both Bushes are known for the involvement with the Saudis and the implications of that came out in the form of terrorism. Both started a war against Iraq. G. Bush Sr. went after Iraq in Kuweit without any authorization from the Security Council or the Congress. I could go on but I have tons of stuff to do. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: felusiak Natalie, you need to educate yourself IP: *.nyc.rr.com 05.10.04, 03:34 Dear natalie, you need to hit the books and learn something before you start writing such a gibberish. > Tax cuts to the wealthy failed to craete jobs under Bush Sr. WRONG, G.H.W. Bush never cut taxes. He raised them. "Read my lips. No new taxes" ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Look at some serious numbers from the Labor Dept. They are dismal. Really? Unemployment rate is now lower than that during 1996 election. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Both Bushes are known for the involvement with the Saudis No, they not known for it. They are accused of it by Michael Moores and other hard left-wingrs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Both started a war against Iraq. > G. Bush Sr. went after Iraq in Kuweit without any authorization from the > Security Council or the Congress. Natalie, natalie your ignorance is bottomless. As you don't know Iraq invaded Kuwait in August 1990. President Bush secured the congressional authorization to go to war (btw. your idol voted against) and was leading a coalition of 40 countries including Russia, Germany and France. The action was authorized by UN Security Council. UNSC Resolutions 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, 677 and 678 www.un.org/Docs/scres/1990/scres90.htm----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Natalie, you need to educate yourself. Your left leaning is not an excause for ignorance. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: Natalie, you need to educate yourself IP: *.va.shawcable.net 05.10.04, 06:35 I do have it right.Almost. Both Bushes cut taxes for the rich. I am not sure if/or how close you're watching the whole reelection process but Bush has already been harshly critisized for cutting marginal tax rates, capital gains and inheritance taxes for the rich hoping LIKE his dad that such cuts would generate employment and economic growth. That has never happened. Read MY lips: Bush Jr. cut the rich folks' taxes and since you've mentioned it, the middle class and the lower classes had their taxes raised at the same time. Unemployment is LOWER now? You gotta be kidd'n me. It was 5.4% in 1996 and now it's at 5.7% right now. Not much improvement there. > > Both Bushes are known for the involvement with the Saudis > No, they not known for it. They are accused of it by Michael Moores and other > hard left-wingrs. Add me also to the list. My pleasure. about UN and Bush Sr. you are right...UN authorized that move but this was a shameful piece of history for all involved First, Commander in Chief Bush, Sr. was widely praised for the invasion's rapid end, but the true battle had only begun when Saddam Hussain refused to leave Kuwait by the January 15, 1991 DEADLINE - SET BY THE UNITED NATIONS- Bush launched ‘Operation Dessert Storm’ and soon after that the non-stop a full- fledged ground assault on Iraq as well. Daddy Bush dumped some 375 tons of depleted uranium (DU) on Iraq knowing that this radioactivity would make food and water unsafe for consumption.According to the Geneva convention tghis was a war crime and he was not authorized to go to those lengths.They bombed electrical grids, water treatment plants. Bush Sr got UN's support for ousting Hussein from Kuweit. He did not get any approval for things he had done to the civilian population. It was one of the most shameful chapters in the history of the United Nations and thank God it didn't repeat itself under Bush Jr. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: chickenshorts Re: Natalie, you need to educate yourself IP: *.olsztyn.mm.pl 05.10.04, 07:02 ...preferably before you are forty. Otherwise you may end up like that 'well educated' fuckwit, wacko (aka wj, felusiak, kupierczycki, namonik...) informed mostly by info-tainment outlet of his choice, called Fox (cool name, innit?), whith disastrous consequences to both, his grip on 1)info and 2)humour... Don't take just my word for it. "George is his puppet. Whose puppet? Is he his daddy's puppet or Cheney's puppet? What about Rumsfeld? How does he take it not being able to pull the strings? Is Powell out of the game? How many strings does he pull? If Bush the Elder, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Powell are pulling the strings how do they coordinate? Love you all but I must conclude that you are nuts writing such a gibberish not to say bullshit." - wacko as Kupierczycki "The public was riped for change, striving for prosperity." ...called himself phallusiak and could have hit bull's eye of 'selfdepracating'. But he can't even be funny... He is the man who once called that monkey 'a very skillful president' Well, Natalie, don't let that professor educate you. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: felusiak Re: Natalie, you need to educate yourself IP: *.nyc.rr.com 05.10.04, 09:38 Well. well, well. Mister chicken-fucking-shorts. It's been a long time. You haven't changed a bit. Maybe for worse. Masturbate my friend and do it often. Hold your thinking head in your hand. PS. Kupierczycki is not mine. By the way I wonder if you can point to the tax cut passed by Bush the Elder? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
vvalentyna Re: Natalie, you need to educate yourself 05.10.04, 10:03 yeah, Poles are communists - no bad word against Putin and his government, the hatred is directed towards Poland's benefactors. Disgusting! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
cheesey Re: Natalie, you need to educate yourself 06.10.04, 03:17 yeah walentyna, you are right polaks with inferiority complex Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: felusiak Re: Natalie, you need to educate yourself IP: *.nyc.rr.com 06.10.04, 05:23 vvalentyna's opinion is as valid or invalid as natalie's opinion. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Justa Re: Natalie, you need to educate yourself IP: *.nyc.rr.com 06.10.04, 06:17 Natalie, I truly support you. Bush Jr., after stealing the last presidential election, promised to unite American people and I have never seen America more divided than now. I hope this time all the votes will be counted and this new born Christian with the evil agenda on his lips will be fired! 4 MORE WEEKS!!!! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: Natalie, you need to educate yourself IP: *.va.shawcable.net 06.10.04, 06:52 Have you seen the vice presidential debate on TV today...Dickie vs John Edwards? It was too long for me to watch the whole thing but I saw the part where Dick Chaney was defending Bush's stand against gay and lesbian couples and RIGHT after that John Edwards said something like: "If anyone should understand THAT issue is Mr Chaney because one of his daughter's is gay lasbian". "Don't you want the best for your daughter? Do you love her less because she is gay?" You should see Chaney face turn three shades of green. What a hypocrisy! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: Natalie, you need to educate yourself IP: *.va.shawcable.net 06.10.04, 20:22 three shades of red, of course. Thinking too much of the Incredible Hulk, I guess. :) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: felusiak Re: Natalie, you need to educate yourself IP: *.nyc.rr.com 06.10.04, 20:51 Lawyer's trick. Cheney kept his cool. Silky Pony got badly beaten last night. PS. To Justa. Bush didn't steal last election. Mr. Gore was prevented from doing it. You guys a way to partisan on the subject and your "facts" dont check out. You've watched too much Moore. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: rygiel z USA Idiocy IP: 67.111.137.* 06.10.04, 20:56 I strongly recomend Annenberg's Fact Check site from University of Pennsylvania. Both sides distort facts but democrats are the masters in selling snake oil. www.factcheck.org/ Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: felusiak natalie, especially for you IP: *.nyc.rr.com 06.10.04, 21:25 Two pieces, one on manufacturing jobs and another one on Halliburton. A must for you. www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=234 www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=261 And two more just to irritate you. www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=261 www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=253 felusiak PS. Good site. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: natalie, especially for you IP: *.va.shawcable.net 06.10.04, 21:59 I know about Hollyburton and John Edward clobbered Chimp Cheney big time on that one. BTW, your pages are slow loading up so I gave up. In fact Edwards helped through many lawsuits regarding the Hollyburton scandal and it only makes me more sympathetic (and glad!) that you Americans have lawyers like Edwards. He's got the gift of the gab (as most lawyers do) but he's got his facts together and that's what counts! Chimp Chia Pet Cheney was squirming under John Edwards' pressure yesterday and it was a sight for sore eyes. He is just as inefficient of a speaker/debater as his Commander in Chief bigger Chia Pet Bush. That whole Hollyburton thing makes me sick to my stomach. And that's NOT Michael Moore only. That's facts that became known way after the movie was finished. And it's not only Chia monkey Cheney that dipped his grabby paws in "no bid" contracts. Bush's old man, "Bush-backer Bechtel", the construction firm, and of course a Texas-based company by the name of Exxon-Mobil both dipped their mitts in similar contracts. I hope the American people will see through the BS and go with Kerry. ON the other hand, our Canadian dollar is getting stronger by the day...do we want the American's to do well? Just joking! :) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: felusiak Re: natalie, especially for you IP: *.nyc.rr.com 06.10.04, 22:06 I had no idea you are canadian. Well, now I understand where you coming from. As they say you are what you eat. I guess it's primarily CBC. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: natalie, especially for you IP: *.va.shawcable.net 06.10.04, 22:18 It's a lot more than CBC. It's all the same American channels you guys have except I am not signed up for HBO's Pay Per View stuff or other private programming . I wish I was. I love Bill Meyer. He's great and I share the same sentiments he has about Bush. In fact, I agree with him on many many other issues. The only way I can see him is when he is on Larry King or invited somewhere else. I read his stuff on the internet though and that's good enough for me. I know the majority of Americans think the Canadians are a bunch of dumb asses but at times we think the same of our neigbors too.In fact, we think of our next door neigbors much better than you guys think of us. We are used to that here. :) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: natalie, especially for you IP: *.va.shawcable.net 06.10.04, 22:20 last sentence: we think of you a lot better than you think of us. :) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: natalie, especially for you IP: *.va.shawcable.net 06.10.04, 22:35 if you ever want to look up Bill Maher...that's the correct spelling. I screwed up the spelling. In any case,if anyone's interested he's got his website. It's really cool. www.billmaher.com/ Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: felusiak Re: natalie, especially for you IP: *.nyc.rr.com 06.10.04, 22:47 I used to watch Maher's Politically Incorrect when the show was on Comedy Central. He was funny then. After moving to ABC he became increasingly bitter and not funny at all. No, thank you. For us Canada is a wasteland that needs to be developed. We can't do it now because we tied down in Iraq. But right after we done with them, we are coming to you. Hah! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: natalie27 Re: natalie, especially for you IP: *.va.shawcable.net 06.10.04, 23:26 Well, he is as funny now as he was before and more. The reason you remember him bitter is because he was a real whistle blower on "POlitically Incorrect" and as you know what he said about the terrorists, quickly forced him off the air. His timing for saying certain things was REALLY BAD but I agree 100% with what he said without taking it out of context. What he pointed out was that the 9/11 terrorists weren't cowards because who in his own sane mind wants to blow himself up for his country? He fell short of calling those people heroes but that's what the Bush's administration quickly interpreted. Muslims and Al Queida sure look at their own heroes as martyrs. He was bitter and withdrawn for quite some and it was showing.I really missed Bills shows. He is back and he is back big time! Love the guy! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś