Poles are uncivilized bunch of savages.

[Gość: Grossed]

In September of this year I will be travelling to Europe (UK, France, Germany)
and I decided to visit Poland for a few days.
I have never been to Poland, and I wanted to gather some first hand information
about the country.
So, I went on IRC, to Polish room called Polska.
As soon as I arrived to the room I was treated with savage hatred and insulted
repeatedly by people present there.
I do not speak Polish, and I was trying to communicate in English, hoping that
at least one person will be fluent in this language.
Nobody was.
Instead, I was insulted and relegated from the room.
Now I know, that I will not visit Poland next September, nor any other month in
the future. That spells, NEVER.
If on IRC in Polish room I was treated with such savagery, I can only imagine
how I''d be treated when I was in Poland.

I think that it is unfortunate, that countries like Poland want to join
civilaized West, but at the same time Poland shows its poor manners and typical
Slavic behavior. Rude and primitive.

Johann von Kleist,
Montreal, Canada

[Gość: To Gross]

Gość portalu: Grossed napisał(a):

> In September of this year I will be travelling to Europe (UK, France, Germany)
> and I decided to visit Poland for a few days.
> I have never been to Poland, and I wanted to gather some first hand information
>
> about the country.
> So, I went on IRC, to Polish room called Polska.
> As soon as I arrived to the room I was treated with savage hatred and insulted
> repeatedly by people present there.
> I do not speak Polish, and I was trying to communicate in English, hoping that
> at least one person will be fluent in this language.
> Nobody was.
> Instead, I was insulted and relegated from the room.
> Now I know, that I will not visit Poland next September, nor any other month in
>
> the future. That spells, NEVER.
> If on IRC in Polish room I was treated with such savagery, I can only imagine
> how I''''d be treated when I was in Poland.
>
> I think that it is unfortunate, that countries like Poland want to join
> civilaized West, but at the same time Poland shows its poor manners and typical
>
> Slavic behavior. Rude and primitive.
>
> Johann von Kleist,
> Montreal, Canada

You should not have told them that you are a Jew.As you may know (and you shoud)
the Jews were wery mean towards poles in the past.

[Gość: TYP]

Gość portalu: Grossed napisał(a):

> In September of this year I will be travelling to Europe (UK, France, Germany)
> and I decided to visit Poland for a few days.
> I have never been to Poland, and I wanted to gather some first hand information
>
> about the country.
> So, I went on IRC, to Polish room called Polska.
> As soon as I arrived to the room I was treated with savage hatred and insulted
> repeatedly by people present there.
> I do not speak Polish, and I was trying to communicate in English, hoping that
> at least one person will be fluent in this language.
> Nobody was.
> Instead, I was insulted and relegated from the room.
> Now I know, that I will not visit Poland next September, nor any other month in
>
> the future. That spells, NEVER.
> If on IRC in Polish room I was treated with such savagery, I can only imagine
> how I''''d be treated when I was in Poland.
>
> I think that it is unfortunate, that countries like Poland want to join
> civilaized West, but at the same time Poland shows its poor manners and typical
>
> Slavic behavior. Rude and primitive.
>
> Johann von Kleist,
> Montreal, Canada


Mr. Johann von Kleist, an expatriate kraut perhaps ? Save your money and go to
Germany, where they are "civilized" and mastered the skill of gassing people.
Since you are from Canada maybe you can even get a baseball bat right across the
eyes from a lovely german skinhead. While you are at it, please do visit
Netherlands, country of "civilized" people where killing unborn babies, old
people etc is a daily routine. In France you can chat with very "friendly" French
people who love north americans oh so much. In Britain dont forget to munch on
some BSE burgers from this highly "cultural" nation that manages to feed pigs
with used up car oil.

Enjoy your stay in civilized Europe.

[Gość: ........]

We treat each person as he or she deserves.

[Gość: Mucki]

Gość portalu: ........ napisał(a):

> We treat each person as he or she deserves.


Slicznie sie chlopcy bawicie.

[Gość: ********]

"Netherlands, country of "civilized" people where killing unborn babies, old
people etc is a daily routine."

TYP you're an idiot !!!!!!!!!!

[Gość: gadula]

Błędem naszym jest to, ze zawsze zostawiamy kwestie wiary Kościołowi I Rabinom.
Tak jak chory lekarz nie powinien leczyć się sam tak i my nie powinniśmy ich
zostawiać samym sobie. Nie wiem jak to zrobić, lecz wiem na pewno ze Kościół i
Rabini nie rozwiążą swoich problemów. A my będziemy zbierać tego konsekwencje.

do gaduly

[Gość: nostromo]

jak zwykle glupio i nie na temat

a propos "lekarzu LECZ sie sam" - wiec jednak cos ci sie pomyrdalo

[Gość: Tomek]

Mr von Kleist,

The "beauty" of IRC as well as this forum is that you can post anything, any
insults without having to worry about the consequences. You experienced that
with IRC, and now are taking advantage of it.

[Gość: me]

Dear Johann,
I am appalled by my co-patriots antysemitism, racism and overall intolerance. On many
ocassions while living abroad I was asked about this very problem and would always give
an example of my family living in Oswiecim, where I am from, sheltering a Jewish family
for almost a year during the WWII, because they had been neighbours, and defending Poles.
I have never experienced so much anti-semitism when I was growing up, and yes, I was a
tourist guide for groups of German highschoolers in the Museum in Auschvitz.
Go to Krakow during the Festival of Jewish Culture in the summer, this will give you a
different perspective of Polish society. Keep in mind that people "debating" (translation:
insulting) on the internet are very selected, limited, and with inferiority complex, they thrive
on belittleing others, however they would never share their opinions looking you straight in
the eyes. This is not what Poles are. I have many devoted and dear friends with whom I
celebrate Passover and share a Christmas joy.
Cheers,
D.

mein herr...

[Gość: nostromo]

was vollen sie, zeby jaka polski szfynia do pan sze milo odzezwal? he, he, ich glaube nicht!... nycz szem ot czasuf panskego tatusia ne zmenylo, jedna na nych rada, zagrodzicz
drutem kolczastem i lubudubu! personalnie radzilbym ustawiac polakuff kilku rzadkiem coby jednom kulkom wiency trafiac!

[Gość: xyz]

It''s hard to fathom that you went in there and without any reason got expelled.
Next time, be a little gentler in your "superior" mannerism- show respect and
we will pay you in kind.

[Gość: Grossed]

Reaction to my letter on this forum does not need any comments.
So far I''ve been called a Jew, however I am not a Jew but German of very good
blue blood, I was also called a "kraut" but some ''well informed'' person.
Others were trying to convince me that I was ''superior'' while on IRC-Polska.
Only few letters were in proper tone and language.
So, I am still convinced that meeting civilized Pole is a very rare occurance.
It is, however, unfortunate that Poles suffer from serious complex of
inferiority and try to cover it with agression toward others.

I met Poles in other countries and I must say, that only few were of
significant social status. The rest were rather not.
In my office building where I work, I never met any German cleaning women or
men who polish toilets and floors in my offices, all of them are Polish...
Why is that?
Does cleaning toilets is the best skill Poles were able to master through the
years of their magnificent culture?

Johann

PS. Now I remember that someone invoked gas chambers and gassing people during
WW II. I am proud that my ancestor was one of the few who were sentenced to
death, and lost their lives for failed assasination attempt of Hitler by Baron
von Satuffenberg.

[Gość: Kant]

Johann,
bevor Du was schreibst, überlege erstmal was und wie Du das tust. Besonders
wenn Du etwas für Polen und im polnischen Forum mitzuteilen hast.

Dass Du von einzelnen Personen gleich auf die ganze Nation schließt, spricht
nicht gerade von Deinen "weltmännischen und zivilisierten" Ansichten.

Ich möchte Dich nicht beleidigen, oder über die Deutschen im Allgemeinen
schlecht reden. Hast Du Dich aber schon mal gefragt, warum die Deutschen
(besonders in Europa) zu den unbeliebtesten Zeitgenossen zählen???

Denk darüber nach!

[Gość: ...]

podoba mi sie strasznie co sadzi ten pan von Kleist o sobie i swoich rodakach
ale mozna to bylo jakos krocej wyrazic, no nie?
moze np. übermensch - jedno slowo, a tyle tresci
mysle, ze to dobrze, ze taki wartosciowy czlowiek nie odwiedzi Polski - to
przeciez tylko strata czasu, mam nadzieje ze milo spedzi czas u Europie (czytaj
Niemczech), na pewno uda mu sie spodkac ludzi, ktorzy nie beda odstawali od
niego poziomem, np. takich milych chlopcow (wiekszosc po chemioterapii bo nie
maja wlosow biedactwa i do tego te buty ortopedyczne aj aj aj), z fajnymi
tatuazami, ostatnio zauwazylem, ze ucza sie rowniez ang. jeden mial koszulke z
napisem "you are not welcome" i jeszcze jakas czarna koniczynke, a moze to byl
jakis krzyzyk... nie widzialem dokladnie, wprawdzie wiekszosc spoleczenstwa
mowi o nich "dummkopf" ale oni przeciez nic nie rozumieja....
jakies jednostki pijace calymi dniami piwo po 49pf w parku - NIE tego tu nie
ma, to na pewno jacys ausländerzy
bezrobotni - jacy bezrobotni, po prostu nie ma odpowiedniej pracy dla ludzi o
takich kwalifikacjach
tutaj wszyscy sie ucza spojrzmy na uniwersytety - co najmniej polowa
asystentow, doktorantow to przeciez Niemcy, a juz w 100% to personel
sprzatajacy, a studenci to tez chluba, nawet po 4 na roku(kierunki
inzynierskie)... no i jeszcze z 4-5 jakis ausländerow, ale oni no wiecie...
Best regards to all my German friends.

PS I have written only some remarks, none of them offending.

[Gość: Tomek]

Boy, what are you getting at here? Poland, savaged, nation, full of hatred
and ... cleaning toilets... OK, I''ll make you feel comfortable and ''ll let you
live with these thoughts.

However, I can''t resist the temptation of giving you an answer to why Germans
don''t clean restrooms. During my 2.5 year stay in Germany I''ve never seen a
German restroom cleaning person. That spells, in GERMANY. Wonder why? Well,
guess what, this is, because they prefer unemployment allowance.
They despise cleaning restrooms and the Auslaenders, who do this job, but don''t
hesitate taking advantage of the German socialist government and live on other
people like parasites.

Think of me as a Typical Slavic Uncivilized Savaged Toilet Cleaner. This will
keep your picture about Poles consistent.

[Gość: xyz]

Gość portalu: Grossed napisała):

> Reaction to my letter on this forum does not need any comments.

First of all, it is you who barges in here calling all Poles "uncivlized bunch of
savages". Answer: did you not?

> So far I''''ve been called a Jew, however I am not a Jew but German of very good
> blue blood, I was also called a "kraut" but some ''''well informed'''' person.

The fact that you call yourself "German of very good blue blood" reeks of
superiority complex. Who cares what kind of blood you have got? Certainly, it is
you since you "announce" it as some kind news everybody wants to hear.

> Others were trying to convince me that I was ''''superior'''' while on IRC-Polska.
> Only few letters were in proper tone and language.

"Proper tone and language"? Hey pal, anybody''s home?

> So, I am still convinced that meeting civilized Pole is a very rare occurance.
> It is, however, unfortunate that Poles suffer from serious complex of
> inferiority and try to cover it with agression toward others.

It is not "a rare occurance".
Why can''t you get such a simple cause-effect relation: you get what you ask for?

> I met Poles in other countries and I must say, that only few were of
> significant social status. The rest were rather not.
> In my office building where I work, I never met any German cleaning women or
> men who polish toilets and floors in my offices, all of them are Polish...
> Why is that?
> Does cleaning toilets is the best skill Poles were able to master through the
> years of their magnificent culture?

> Johann
>
> PS. Now I remember that someone invoked gas chambers and gassing people during
> WW II. I am proud that my ancestor was one of the few who were sentenced to
> death, and lost their lives for failed assasination attempt of Hitler by Baron
> von Satuffenberg.

[Gość: TYP]

Gość portalu: Grossed napisał(a):

> Reaction to my letter on this forum does not need any comments.


Yeah so why are you commenting ?


> So far I''''ve been called a Jew, however I am not a Jew but German of very good
> blue blood, I was also called a "kraut" but some ''''well informed'''' person.


You are a kraut with RED blood. Your kind is the most hated in Europe and the
world.


> Others were trying to convince me that I was ''''superior'''' while on IRC-Polska.
> Only few letters were in proper tone and language.


I think you are desperately trying to convince yourself. Happy convincing.


> So, I am still convinced that meeting civilized Pole is a very rare occurance.
> It is, however, unfortunate that Poles suffer from serious complex of
> inferiority and try to cover it with agression toward others.


Civilized like Germans ? No thank you. German talking about being non-
agressive....tell me when to stop laughing.


> I met Poles in other countries and I must say, that only few were of
> significant social status. The rest were rather not.


I met Germans in other countries and they were all filthy, hairy, laud mouth
idiots. Bottom of social strata.


> In my office building where I work, I never met any German cleaning women or
> men who polish toilets and floors in my offices, all of them are Polish...
> Why is that?

Because Germans are lazy and prefer unemployment, living off a socialist state
like leeches. They cleaned toilets in 1945 rather well.


> Does cleaning toilets is the best skill Poles were able to master through the
> years of their magnificent culture?
>
> Johann


Sure beats mastering how to gas people. "Maginificent" German culture isnt it ?



> PS. Now I remember that someone invoked gas chambers and gassing people during
> WW II. I am proud that my ancestor was one of the few who were sentenced to
> death, and lost their lives for failed assasination attempt of Hitler by Baron
> von Satuffenberg.


Sure. So were other Germans "noble" and "righteous". Thats why 99% supported
Hitler, SS, Gestapo, nazis etc. Go tell your fake stories to dumb German
students, maybe they will buy it.

[aniutek]

blue blood...... maybe blooded
sorry but sounds like huge bullshit.
In my opinion you should spend some more time studying history,
it will do a lot of good to your brains and help
keeping your judgements sane.
Before stating such generalized ideas as you did, try to look at
yourself with the same attitude as you have towards others.
Do not forget you are blue blooded - noblesse oblige.

Regards Ana and Lester

[Gość: Kris]

Mr. Grossed

Your messages really need a kind reply, and as I can see some of them are right
on target (on the nose as some would say).

As of being called "superior", why don''t you read your messages again and see
where did that come from.

You wrote: "I met Poles in other countries and I must say, that only few were
of significant social status. The rest were rather not. In my office building
where I work, I never met any German cleaning women or men who polish toilets
and floors in my offices, all of them are Polish...
Why is that? Does cleaning toilets is the best skill Poles were able to master
through the years of their magnificent culture?"

You forgot to tell us how significant your status is or what is your job?
Unfortunatelly being born in free and wealthy country you have no idea what
hard work is. Did you ever try to find out were those "cleaning women or men"
live now? I bet all my money that either now or in 10 years from now they will
own nicer and bigger house than yours. I know that from observing those people
in US. This is what it''s called getting your american dream build with your own
hands and not worrying about smell. I started the same way 14 years ago and now
I am an architect. I also have my own business and guess what? I would never
give a job to the guy who thinks that he is a better man than a "cleaning lady".
I call such a guy an "uncivilized savage" and some other names that you
obviously don''t like.

Good day my savege friend.

[Gość: Elzbieta]

Well sir, I am very sorry for the experienc you had in the Polish room, and the tone of most of the
responses written by Poles ( I am a Polish woman) really hurts me. However, I see basic similarities
in our ways you judge Slavic people to the bigotry represented by so many of the Polish authors of the
comments. Basic principle: isolating a group of people and ascribe all of them the worst qualities.
This is principal bias in stereotyping. Another logical fallacy which every person who was thaught
logical thinkings skills knows: so called "mine is better " fallacy. Than another fallacy is
overgeneralization: you met some Poles but you make already an oppinion about every one of them
(or almost). Hasty conclusion is another fallacy. It seems strange that you as educated in Canada
falls in such traps of illogical thinking. I think you should know that internet portals are not
representating oppinions of the majority of a given society. Those people who are the most vocal are
usually those who are not very educated, but emotionally disturbed. Those Poles who are good
thinkers tend to avoid commenting, because they don''t think that the other side is an equal partner for
discussion. Why Poles are cleaning toilettes? What is wrong about it? Even though I am a graduated
with honors from an American University and beside Polish I know five other languages, I would no
be ashamed if I would need to do such a low status jobs if I need it for finincing my graduate
studies,for example. Why I would not feel ashamed? because I know who I am: a tollerant, intelligent,
humane person. My husband who is German cleaned toiletes and student dormitories in USA in
order to fiance his doctorate studies. I never met a Polish doing this job as in my four years of being a
foreign student in USA. ( well, my world seem to be a litle bit different than yours, things are relative).
I was more fortunate as he was, I did not need to do such jobs, but I am willing to do it when
necessary. One day my dream of becoming an university professor in USA will come true, I know. I
know a lot of civilized , faboulous Polish people who are well educated. Artists, thinkers, humanists,
ask yourself why you do not have relation to such Poles. My German husband loves to visit Poland
and has a positive "bias" that Slavic people are very nutruring and warm hearted. This was his
experience. By the way, what is your own educational background? I have to admit that I doubt if you
are an aristocrat, but may be you are, if yes than you are unusual. I met some German aristocrats in
Berlin, and those were some of the most refined people I ever encounter. No one would lower
him/herself into oppinions about barbarity of any nation or race, they were much beyond such
thinking. Their upbringing was superb, and you could see it in their manners, and hear it in their talk.
Talking about blue blood? Never! This would make others suspicious that your blue blood is only 200
years old. You know, in Canada and USA some people having the same name like some aristocratic
families claim belonging to nobility. But in Europe you can have the same name, two families, one is
aristocratic , another not. In Poland the name Potocki is such a case: you have dukes and common
people who have this name, but all aristocrats know which lineage is red, which is blue blooded. My
German aristocratic friends told me as well that specially in USA you can "buy" the title of nobility. I
don''t know abou tyou, but I don''t really trust you, to me it seem like a hoax and provaocation, this blue
blood of yours. But may be I am mistaken? Do you know what Martin Luter said after reading writings
of Henry the VIII of England? Probably you kow, but on the other hand from the nobility came such a
brillant mind as Werner von Braun. Alles Gute, meine besten Gruesse , trotz aller meiner Kritik..

Drodzy Panowie i Panie(?)

[Gość: --Michal]

Przecierz to mogl napisac, tylko zakapleksiony dewiant. Poco tracic na to czas.
Pozdrawiam.

[Gość: GH]

That''s right. Al Bundy says that you should get out of
there.
Any time I travel with polish passport to Niagara falls
some
monkey in the cage asks me for I-20.
Another monkey want''s the same when I''m back.
Your dollar is a bullshit and you earn less like a
junky.
Try to get a green card so you may sweep streets here
in San Francisco.

[Gość: MW]

Rodacy,glowa do gory. Gdyby nie my ,to caly "cywilizowany Zachod " zgnilby we
wlasnych brudach. Ktos musi dbac o higiene!

[Gość: Ola]

Provocation ?..
Hi,there is a trap you got in writing the letter....If the people don''t speak
English in IRC how did you understand their insults towards you ....?Anyway, IF
its true I am sorry to hear it.Maybe you change your mind ..?I need to talk
with foreigners/tourists as well about the town I work in. Would you come to
Wroclaw ?
Actually, I don''t usually chat online so my visit here is unexpected...but your
letter just shocked me. However, I do confirm Poles are rude...but they are
warm as well...Hm.... Sir VON Kleist who you really are ? I don''t really
believe in your credibility....
Greetings from Plac Solny(square) in Wroclaw.

[Gość: Kant]

Czytajac niektore wypowiedzi zastanawiam sie, czy to forum sluzy tylko do
idiotycznego, chamskiego i prymitywnego bredzenia tudziez by za wszelka cene
zabrac glos - nawet jezeli nie ma sie nic wartosciowego do powiedzenia.

Facet - von Kleist - mial z jego widzenia przykre przezycie na polskim IRC. Nie
chce jechac do Polski to jego sprawa.

Ale to nie powod w reakcji na jego wypowiedz pieprzyc znow o Zydach, komunie i
brytyjskim BSE - no chyba ze bawimy sie w przedszkole: "...Prosze Pani, to on
zaczal a nie ja ...".

[Gość: MJP]

Gość portalu: Kant napisała):

> Czytajac niektore wypowiedzi zastanawiam sie, czy to forum sluzy tylko do
> idiotycznego, chamskiego i prymitywnego bredzenia tudziez by za wszelka cene
> zabrac glos - nawet jezeli nie ma sie nic wartosciowego do powiedzenia.
>
> Facet - von Kleist - mial z jego widzenia przykre przezycie na polskim IRC. Nie
>
> chce jechac do Polski to jego sprawa.
>
> Ale to nie powod w reakcji na jego wypowiedz pieprzyc znow o Zydach, komunie i
> brytyjskim BSE - no chyba ze bawimy sie w przedszkole: "...Prosze Pani, to on
> zaczal a nie ja ...".

1. Twoja odpowiedz wlasnie jest takim prymitywnym bredzeniem, Kant. To wlasnie ty
nic nie wnosisz do dyskusji tutaj, tylko krytykujesz innych. Probujesz pouczac
innych jak maja sie zachowywac odpisujac na wypowiedz tego goscia z Kanady?

2. Nie wiem czy zauwazyles, ale ten "cywilizowany" facet obraza tak samo Ciebie,
jak i mnie, oraz wszystkich Polakow. To, ze byc moze mial zle doswiadczenie na
IRC, nie upowaznia go do obrazania reszty. A swoja droga, zanim zaczniesz byc
taki "opiekunczy i wyrozumialy", czy wiesz dlaczego ten facet mial takie
doswiadczenia?

3. Jakis "lepszy" niby Kanadayjczyk pluje Ci w gebe, a ty mowisz, ze to jego
sprawa...

[Gość: Kant]

A czym niby mialby mnie obrazic? I nie uwazam, ze mi w twarz naplul - az taki
wrazliwy nie jestem.

Poza tym nikogo nie pouczam i nie jestem taki opiekunczy, ale poczytaj inne
wypowiedzi i poszperaj w innych tematach: wczesniej czy pozniej spada poziom
postow i ogranicza sie do nieskonczonyej polemiki w kwestii Zydow.

I zanim mi i to zarzucisz: nie, nie jestem Zydem.

[Gość: MJP]

Gość portalu: Kant napisała):

> A czym niby mialby mnie obrazic? I nie uwazam, ze mi w twarz naplul - az taki
> wrazliwy nie jestem.

Ok. skoro nie jestes- to nie jestes.

> Poza tym nikogo nie pouczam i nie jestem taki opiekunczy, ale poczytaj inne
> wypowiedzi i poszperaj w innych tematach: wczesniej czy pozniej spada poziom
> postow i ogranicza sie do nieskonczonyej polemiki w kwestii Zydow.

Czytam, a czytam.
To prawda, ze poziom spada i zupelnie odchodzi sie od tematow.
Jesli chodzi o Zydow? Coz, historia obdarowala nas tymi "Polakami", ktorym
urzadzilismy dom w PL przez tyle wiekow, a oni nam teraz "dziekuja". Ze to temat
rzeka? To nic. Mowiac po anglo-polskiemu, musimy z tym dilowac.

> I zanim mi i to zarzucisz: nie, nie jestem Zydem.

Nie mialem takiego zamiaru...

Pozdrawiam

[Gość: Kant]

Rowniez pozdrawiam, i dziekuje za wyrozumialosc
Czesc.

[Gość: req]

mr von kleist by claiming that all slavic nations are uncivilized and the
people living in these countries are rude and of poor manners you are
generalizing and automatically demonstrating your narrow mindness and full of
prejudice nature
as i dont want to get carried away i will take it very briefly
1st who cares what your ancestors did during the wwII, whatever they did it
doesn''t make you any better person
2nd most probably, unlike your ancestors youre just a small nazi who just loves
to act in a superior manner towards slavic people
3rd i cant imagine that anyone would offend you for no reason

ps
im just too glad to hear that you wont poison our beautiful country in sept or
never.
ps2
i just have to comment on your statement concerning polish cleaning ladies, did
you know that majority of all hookers in poland come from germany. now that was
a highly respectable profession isn''t my dear friend
besides all poles who i know of who live abroad are either doctors or
architects.
best regards from poland

az sie ze lbow kurzy :)

[Gość: nostromo]

"a gdy sie popili gorzalka i wszystkich Lachiw wyrzneli, "towarzystwo" rzucilo sie na siebie i
pomiedzy soba bic sie poczelo..."

panowie i panie - szkoda czasu, a ten von kleist to jakas wielka fikcja...
pewnikiem jaki znudzony reporterzyna podpuszcza nas tu szpetnie...
brak mu innych tematow?

ale - fikcja czy nie - nie bylbym soba jakbym i ja mu nie dokopal

[Gość: Grossed]

Why you people do not have guts to sign your sorry hate letters using your full
names?
Is it another Polish custom to stay hidden behind pseudonims or nick names, or
your another congenital defficiency?
More I read on this forum, more I stay assured, that I am right about Poles and
their inferiority.
And to those who are so upset with us Germans; just wait few more years and we
buy you out without firing a shot.
Sorry people, you are on your way down.
Again.
Hey people! There is another toilet in my office which needs cleaning.
Any takers?

Johann von Kleist

PS. I took Polish letters which were published on this forum to be translated
by my friend who worked in German embassy in Warsaw. He speaks Polish and will
translate them for me. I am just curious what did you people have to say?

[Gość: ........]

Gość portalu: Grossed napisał(a):

> Why you people do not have guts to sign your sorry hate letters using your full
>
> names?
> Is it another Polish custom to stay hidden behind pseudonims or nick names, or
> your another congenital defficiency?
> More I read on this forum, more I stay assured, that I am right about Poles and
>
> their inferiority.
> And to those who are so upset with us Germans; just wait few more years and we
> buy you out without firing a shot.
> Sorry people, you are on your way down.
> Again.
> Hey people! There is another toilet in my office which needs cleaning.
> Any takers?
>
> Johann von Kleist
>
> PS. I took Polish letters which were published on this forum to be translated
> by my friend who worked in German embassy in Warsaw. He speaks Polish and will
> translate them for me. I am just curious what did you people have to say?

So, we''re not a trush for you as I''ve thought. Thank
you SIR for your compassionate heart!!!.

[Gość: David]

Gość portalu: Grossed napisał(a):

> Why you people do not have guts to sign your sorry hate letters using your full
>
> names?

a. Hey Genius, if you actually stop and think about it, you might realize that
it''s pretty irrelevant whether someone signs their full name or not. As you
noted yourself, anyone - including yourself - could be using "pseudonims." It''s
spelled p-s-e-u-d-o-n-Y-m-s. How do we know that you are REALLY Johann von
Kleist?
b. When dealing with prejudiced, unstable persons such as yourself, it is
probably prudent for forum contributors to use pseudonyms, to protect themselves
from whatever homicidal rage you might be building up. Perhaps you''ll attempt to
find where they live and try to eliminate the "inferior" ones!!
c. Ultimately, in these forum discussions, it''s quite irrelevant what a person''s
name is. You are hiding in a degree of anonymity that you wouldn''t enjoy
speaking out your beliefs in a park in Warsaw, for instance.
Also, FYI, nickname is one word, not two.

> Is it another Polish custom to stay hidden behind pseudonims or nick names, or
> your another congenital defficiency?

Your English certainly is rough. The phrase "your another congenital
defficiency" makes no sense at all. I presume you meant the word "deficiency"?
Also, if one LEARNED to "stay hidden behind pseudonims (sic)" then this could not
be a congenital deficiency, since congenital means a condition originating from
birth.

> More I read on this forum, more I stay assured, that I am right about Poles and
>
> their inferiority.

Well then, by all means, you should read this forum every day! Make sure you
always read (and interpret) things that only reinforce your prejudices and
stereotypes! You are likely a lost cause in this regard, having locked on to the
notion that certain groups of people, be they classified by "race", nationality,
language, religion, sexual orientation, or whatever, are inferior to others. I
have met intelligent, sophisticated people from America, Poland, Canada, and
Germany. These countries also have many hateful morons, who draw conclusions
about huge swaths of the population based on incredibly small samples. Then,
their only response is to hate, and the desire to eliminate them in some way.


> And to those who are so upset with us Germans; just wait few more years and we
> buy you out without firing a shot.

As I was saying above, they strive to eliminate ("buy you out"). If I thought
the same way you do, I would assume that all Germans (or German-Canadians) are
hateful bigots, who quietly idolize Hitler. I know this isn''t the case. I will
evaluate YOU by what your words and deeds, but I will not evaluate all Germans or
Canadians by what you say or do. I''m sure the citizens of Canada & Germany are
grateful to me for that.
Finally, the phrase "uncivilized bunch of savages" is quite redundant. Could
there be such a thing as a "civilized bunch of savages"? Use your head!
And clean your own damn toilet! What, are you LAZY?

No one is impressed or intimidated that you have "a friend" that worked at the
German Embassy in Warsaw. Big deal.

-David Ritter
Eastern US

> Sorry people, you are on your way down.
> Again.
> Hey people! There is another toilet in my office which needs cleaning.
> Any takers?
>
> Johann von Kleist
>
> PS. I took Polish letters which were published on this forum to be translated
> by my friend who worked in German embassy in Warsaw. He speaks Polish and will
> translate them for me. I am just curious what did you people have to say?
>

[aniutek]

hell, isn''t he working as a cleaning person?
imposssible, can''t believe..... can read?? jesus, polish he can read??
no, he must be german then...
regards and keep the attitude high, you will be falling down longer
well, you are annoying ..... person not to say bastard
Ana

[Gość: dreptak]

Gość portalu: Grossed napisał(a):

> Why you people do not have guts to sign your sorry hate letters using your full
>
> names?
>

Hm, using full names? Well... A nick name is probably better than a made-up name.
Would you be kind enough to explain, why the name Johann von Kleist is not listed
in Montreal''s white pages nor public records?
Greetings

[Gość: po co?]

facet juz zaciera rece. Wszystko to teraz zaniesie do redakcji, nawet bez
komentarza, troche dodadza od siebie. I dostanie nastepna wyplate...nie wiem
tylko w jakiej walucie?

[Gość: Janelka]

If you were an intelligent person, you wouldn''t talk about every Pole after visiting IRC! Most of the people that use
internet in our country are idiots, but it doesn''t mean that everybody are, don''t you think so? There is a lot of
aggresion in Polish people and a lot of stupidity, but I tell you one more time that not everybody are such as those.
Yours
Pole
P.S.
Sorry for the mistakes - I don''t speak english very well.

Prawda o von Klauscie.

[Gość: poco?]

Ja slyszalem cala prawde o tym zdarzeniu IRS. Von Klais wcale nie jest Niemcem,
a tylko pochodzi z austryjackiej rodziny miszkajacej od dawna w Turcji, ( sa
prawie juz zaturkowani, lub ztukowiczowani, albo ztureckowani). Von Klaist
przyszedl rzeczywiscie do biura, ale zaraz polecial do Restrumu (toalety) i po
chwili wyskoczyl z wrzaskiem po turecku, ze nie ma papieru. Zaznaczam, ze
dzialo sie to w czasie przerwy na lancz. Akurat stala tam Pani Zosia, ktora
zajmuje sie utrzymaniem porzadku w toaletach, i nie rozumiejac nic po turecku
(na studiach miala wykladowy francuski), dala szanownemu von Klaistowi banknot
jednodolarowy, myslac, ze to jakis oszolom, ktorego lepiej sie pozbyc. A ten
zaraz zaczal wykrzykiwac (tym razem po polsku), ze to jest obraza godla
panstwowego (chodzilo chyba o uzywanie papieru banknotowego w restrumie), i ze
nie bedzie tego dluzej tolerowal, poniewaz nie jest do takiego traktowania
przyzwyczajony. Naprawde wszyscy chcielismy zalagodzic sytuacje, ale von Klaist
nie dal sobie nic wytlumaczyc i zaczal krzyczec ( tym razem po holendersku ),
ze on to wszystko opisze w prasie. Potem rzeczywiscie sie okazalo, ze ma
blekitna krew, bo byl na badaniu krwi na proby watrobowe w przychodni rejonowej
i wyszedl caly poplaminony na koszuli w duze granatowe plamy. Nie wiem co o tym
myslec, ale jak by sie nie dalo, to nie mozna sie z tym facetem dogadac.
Staralismy sie jak najlepiej. Potem sie tez okazalo, ze von Klaist, jest
dyrektorem wielkiego banku i juz nie daja kredytow Polakom. Dziekuje.

[Gość: Misia]

Hej, to i sie podoba. Bardzo zabawne. Gratuluje Poco.

Najuprzejmiej wyzywam na pojedynek!

[Gość: poco?]

Von Klaus! Zwracam sie do was, poniewaz moje uczucia patriotyczne zostaly
rozpalone do czerwonosci. Z calym szacunkiem musze stwierdzic, ze przebrzydly
mi juz Twoje, mosci kochaneczku, zajadle ataki na moich Rodakow. Zwaracam sie
takze z przypomnieniem, abys nie udawal, ze nie pamietasz juz polskiego jezyka.
Dobrze go znasz, chocby dlatego, ze jak pamietam miales polskich przodkow, jak
chociazby, Mariana Von... zacengo wynalazce drutu kolczastego. Ze swojej strony
musze dodac, ze jestem potomkiem bardzo starego rodu ksiazecego, i blekitnej
krwi mam az nadto za duzo. W zwiazku z powyzszem wyzywam Cie, psubracie, na
pojedynek. Proponuje jakis stan USA, gdzie nie ma juz kary smierci w zwiazku z
morderstwem, poniewaz bardzo nie lubie zastrzykow. Zostawiam Tobie swobodny
wybor broni, ale uwazam, ze rapiery bylyby najwlasciwsze. Jezeli by zdarzyc sie
tak moglo, ze nie przyjmiesz mojego zaproszenia, to smiem twierdzic, ze twoja
blekitna krew juz sie przeterminowala, i transfuzji potrzbujesz. Przesylam
wyrazy ubolewania w zwiazku z Twemi zalosnymi inwektywami. Czekam na opowiedz.
(nazwisko znane redakcji).

[Gość: ........]

Gość portalu: poco? napisał(a):

> Von Klaus! Zwracam sie do was, poniewaz moje uczucia patriotyczne zostaly
> rozpalone do czerwonosci. Z calym szacunkiem musze stwierdzic, ze przebrzydly
> mi juz Twoje, mosci kochaneczku, zajadle ataki na moich Rodakow. Zwaracam sie
> takze z przypomnieniem, abys nie udawal, ze nie pamietasz juz polskiego jezyka.
>
> Dobrze go znasz, chocby dlatego, ze jak pamietam miales polskich przodkow, jak
> chociazby, Mariana Von... zacengo wynalazce drutu kolczastego. Ze swojej strony
>
> musze dodac, ze jestem potomkiem bardzo starego rodu ksiazecego, i blekitnej
> krwi mam az nadto za duzo. W zwiazku z powyzszem wyzywam Cie, psubracie, na
> pojedynek. Proponuje jakis stan USA, gdzie nie ma juz kary smierci w zwiazku z
> morderstwem, poniewaz bardzo nie lubie zastrzykow. Zostawiam Tobie swobodny
> wybor broni, ale uwazam, ze rapiery bylyby najwlasciwsze. Jezeli by zdarzyc sie
>
> tak moglo, ze nie przyjmiesz mojego zaproszenia, to smiem twierdzic, ze twoja
> blekitna krew juz sie przeterminowala, i transfuzji potrzbujesz. Przesylam
> wyrazy ubolewania w zwiazku z Twemi zalosnymi inwektywami. Czekam na opowiedz.
> (nazwisko znane redakcji).

Drogi PO CO, po co to zajscie. Ja bym sobie rak nie
brudzil. Nie warto. Pozdrawiam

[Gość: European]

Dear Johann von Kleist!!!
Unfortunately, your experiences are widespread among the native Poles. There
are many savages in Polish government, on the street, in the media. I believe
the reason is that this country lost almost all of its intelligentsia during
the war and the wounds of the proletarian communism can not be erased in 10
years.
I dont blame you that you dont want to visit Poland as there are so many
uncivilised people there and so much injustice. Polish people like to emphasise
their connections with the European civilisation but when it comes to
conforming with its ideals such as respect for other human beings, widespread
education, social justice, effective infrastracture, they protest and remain in
their old-fashioned ways.
I found it extremely interesting that your message, depraved of any sign of
loathe for Poles, and your sincere account of your experience at the Polish
Chat room has triggered so many poor edited and extremely vulgar replies.
It only shows that Poles have such a low self-esteem and a shortage of self-
criticism that any critical remark towards their contemporary anarchistic
society leads only to another manifestation of savagery.
I hope that one day you will be able to meet some sophisticated and civilised
Poles as they do exist and unfortunately, their experiences with their fellow
barbaric countrymen are so reminescent of yours.

Sincerely,
European Pole

[Gość: lis]

...no i bardzo dobrze! i wszystko teraz jest jasne, tak?
poco? - bog zaplac! czlowiek to sie moze teraz pogubic - tyle sie dzieje!

not true...Take it from an American

[Gość: tomboyyz]

darling ...that was IRC... I bet 99% of the people speaking Polish in that room
were Poles that now live or were born in America... You need to speak in the
gazeta.pl czat room I meet very nice Poles here all the time. My girlfriend is
Polish even.. and Yes we are lesbians and I''m an American myself

[Gość: Grossed]

Dear Lesbian:
I really do not care if you are lesbian or if you are a crocodile.
You are who you are, and I do not think your sexual orientation has anything to
do with your intelligence.
I am not able to speak Polish, therefore my presence in any Polish chat room is
usless since most of Poles are illiterate.
They do not speak English.
I am sure, that, while in Polish chat room, you had many chances to divulge
your sexual orientation, and you were treated very nice by these people.
Great.
I,however, cannot read Polish and I can''t read what illiterate Poles had to say
in response to my letter.

Of you do know Poles so well, I am curious what is your opinion about these
people?

Best regards!
Johann

[Gość: TYP]

Gość portalu: Grossed napisał(a):

> Dear Lesbian:
> I really do not care if you are lesbian or if you are a crocodile.
> You are who you are, and I do not think your sexual orientation has anything to
>
> do with your intelligence.
> I am not able to speak Polish, therefore my presence in any Polish chat room is
>
> usless since most of Poles are illiterate.
> They do not speak English.
> I am sure, that, while in Polish chat room, you had many chances to divulge
> your sexual orientation, and you were treated very nice by these people.
> Great.
> I,however, cannot read Polish and I can''''t read what illiterate Poles had to sa
> y
> in response to my letter.
>
> Of you do know Poles so well, I am curious what is your opinion about these
> people?
>
> Best regards!
> Johann



I prefer to be "illiterate" Pole than "literate" German any time of the day. If I
was a German I would kill myself and do the world a favour.

[Gość: ........]

Gość portalu: Grossed napisał(a):

> Dear Lesbian:
> I really do not care if you are lesbian or if you are a crocodile.
> You are who you are, and I do not think your sexual orientation has anything to
>
> do with your intelligence.
> I am not able to speak Polish, therefore my presence in any Polish chat room is
>
> usless since most of Poles are illiterate.
> They do not speak English.
> I am sure, that, while in Polish chat room, you had many chances to divulge
> your sexual orientation, and you were treated very nice by these people.
> Great.
> I,however, cannot read Polish and I can''''t read what illiterate Poles had to sa
> y
> in response to my letter.
>
> Of you do know Poles so well, I am curious what is your opinion about these
> people?
>
> Best regards!
> Johann

I didn''t know that only English speaking people are "literate".

English speaking Poles

[Gość: tomboyyz]

Gość portalu: Grossed napisał(a):

> Dear Lesbian:
> I really do not care if you are lesbian or if you are a crocodile.
> You are who you are, and I do not think your sexual orientation has anything to
>
> do with your intelligence.
> I am not able to speak Polish, therefore my presence in any Polish chat room is
>
> usless since most of Poles are illiterate.
> They do not speak English.
> I am sure, that, while in Polish chat room, you had many chances to divulge
> your sexual orientation, and you were treated very nice by these people.
> Great.
> I,however, cannot read Polish and I can''''t read what illiterate Poles had to sa
> y
> in response to my letter.
>
> Of you do know Poles so well, I am curious what is your opinion about these
> people?
>
> Best regards!
> Johann

So I suppose you think that ALL that gay people talk about in chat rooms is sex?
If so, your not so smart yourself. My girlfriend happans to have a Masters in
Computer science I have gone back to school myself and I''m close to my A.A. in
Business and will continue on for my B.S.

As for speaking in English, they are more likely just ingnoring you then don''t
know English. I have found that more and more of the younger generation of Poles
are learning English in school. In fact as I travel to the UK this weekend and
got onto the Tunnel train to the UK there was a tour bus of Polish people going
to Oxford in the bus in front of ours. And when I went over to speak to them,
they knew Enlgish quite well. I asked their ages and they were 16, and 17 years
of age. But then you''ll say of course they knew English they were going to the
U.K. Right?

[Gość: Kris]

Dear great educated one,

You wrote:
"I am not able to speak Polish, therefore my presence in any Polish chat room
is usless since most of Poles are illiterate.
They do not speak English."

I think your educated messages are so funny that I will probably send them to
Jay Leno. I hope that since your greatness knows ONE laungage (English) you
will know who that guy is. Maybe they will feature your logical messages in Jay
Walking or Headlines so the rest of america can laugh too, in English. Together
with some "illiterate" idiots who speak two or three languages. Most Poles in
the US and Canada do. I bet you didn''t know that. You must have missed your
educated TV news about it, or maybe it was in other non significant language.

Did you notice, o EDUCATED one, that I managed to write to you in English? Wow.

Sorry, I am still laughing.

[maro+]

po co odpowidacie temu pajacowi, przecież to następny prowokator, których jest
na tym forum całkiem sporo. Czy tak trudno jest odróżnić, zwykły temat od jakiś
wypocin w stylu Polacy są tacy a tacy,a Żydzi tacy i tacy, etc.

[Gość: Kisia]

Biedny Maro nic nie pojmuje,o czym ludzie pisza,w jakich jezykach.Frustracja
totalna.Juz kilka miesiecy temu mowilam mu :nie wchodz miedzy ludzi,nie odzywaj
sie i wracaj do klatki.

u''re mostly right grossed

[Gość: chris]

I''m Pole and I''m often ashamed of living among peple we have here.
That''s absolutely true what u''ve met on Polish irc channel; i experience this
by myself.
I really do not know why there is so many aggression in these people.
I would want to believe that this will go away but what I see is that this will
last forever
That''s really make me sad...
Anyway, some of us do not deserve the opinions u serve; think it over - do not
be as stupid as they are.

Chris

[Gość: Anna26]

Hey John
or whatever version of your name you prefer.
I am Polish and I feel hurt by your comment that Poles are bunch of savages.
As some people already stated before me you should not base your information
about Poland on how you were treated on IRC.
I tried to chat on IRC with Britts and Americans in the past and whenever I
revealed my nationality I got a rather harsh treatment. (I was treated way
better when I lied and said I was Belgian.) That did not stop me, hovever from
visiting the States, England and Canada.
IRC is just a low class enetertainment rather than a source of useful info.
And you should just accept it and don''t expect more out of IRC.

I don''t really care if you visit Poland or not.
It looks to me that you were prejudiced against my nation long before you
visited the site.

You say that Poles are illeterate because they don''t know English. How many
foreign languages do you know?
Not knowing English is not a sign of being illiterate. The same Poles who do
not speak English may be fluent in French, Italian or German.

Your comment on Poles cleaning toilets was, as intended, hurtful. Yes, this is
true that many of us will take this kind of job. Economic situation in Poland
is not exactly awesome and the enompleymoent rate is increasing. Poles look
for jobs abroad because they are trying to meet ends. They don''t have a
security of good welfare system as in Canada. However, I do not think that
cleaning toilets is morally inferior to my job. See, I am an consultant on
tobacco policy to one of big tobacco corporation in the U.S. and hate it. I
hate everything about tobacco business but do it for money, beacuse I prefer
40K a year than cleaning toilets.

Your comments on blue blood are kind of juvenile.
Who cares what is your blood like?
Jesus was poor, so was Gahndi.

Anna Witowska- Ritter (married to hot, sexy American who cleans our toilet at
our home)
Silver Spring, Maryland

P.S. Sorry for any misspellings and article ommission. I am one of those
illiterate salvages, you know

[Gość: tomboyyz]

You tell''um like it is Anna I can barely wait to get home to NJ myself.

[Gość: sesta]

Sei libero a pensarlo, ma Ti sbagli e di grosso! Buona fortuna dall''altra parte
del mondo!

[maro+]

ale z was łajno!!! takich prowokatorów powinno się od razu za jaja wieszać!!!
lub coś innego, jak ich brak.

Do innych, którzy łykneli ten i podobne tematy jak rybka robaka. Czy wy
naprawdę nie widzicie, że to jedna wielka prowokacja? Że wszyscy na tym forum
rozumieją język polski, itd.

Najlepiej na takie durne tematy odpowiadać krótko i zwięźle, choć jak kto woli
może i dłużej, jego czas.

Swoją drogą te forum to jedna wielka kicha. I gdybym nie znał Polski i Polaków,
to miałbym co najmniej dziwne o nich zdanie.

von Klaust: pelen sukces

[Gość: Tomek]

To prawda. Prawdopodobienstwo tego, ze obcokrayoviec i to na dodatek
nie znajacy polskiego dotarlby na to forum zmierza do zera.
Jakis dzikus czyszczacy toalety i niemowiacy po angielsku musialby go
tu zaprowadzic. Sprzecznosc.
Za pozno zdalem sobie z tego sprawe. Madry Polak po szkodzie.
Proponuje zatem zakonczyc ten watek. A rodakowi von Klaustowi zapisac 10
punktow. Trzeba przyznac, ze mu sie udalo.

Von Kleist z bajki

[Gość: poco?]

Przeciez uczyli w szkole, ze oprocz trenow, ody, lamentow, czyli tekstow
powaznych, jest jeszcze satyra, bajka. Von Klaist to wlasnie bohater tej
ostatniej. Nie istnieje, bo takiego nie ma w rzeczywistosci, ale to postac
wykreowana, i dlatego moze robic wszystko i wszedzie, na ile bogata wyobraznia
jego autora. Dlatego lepiej tworzyc dalsze odcinki tej bajeczki ale bez
wyrywania sobie wlosow z glowy.

[Gość: ........]

Gość portalu: poco? napisał(a):

> Przeciez uczyli w szkole, ze oprocz trenow, ody, lamentow, czyli tekstow
> powaznych, jest jeszcze satyra, bajka. Von Klaist to wlasnie bohater tej
> ostatniej. Nie istnieje, bo takiego nie ma w rzeczywistosci, ale to postac
> wykreowana, i dlatego moze robic wszystko i wszedzie, na ile bogata wyobraznia
> jego autora. Dlatego lepiej tworzyc dalsze odcinki tej bajeczki ale bez
> wyrywania sobie wlosow z glowy.
Czyzbys posluchal mojej rady i pojedynku nie bedzie? Pozdrawiam

[Gość: poco?]

Pojedynek nawet moglby byc, ale nikt sie nie zglosil.

[Gość: ........]

Gość portalu: poco? napisał(a):

> Pojedynek nawet moglby byc, ale nikt sie nie zglosil.

No to teraz wiesz ze on jest " bohater i cwaniak" papierkowy.

Really?????????

[Gość: Rafal]

Oj Von Kleist, where should we begin?

1. Illiteracy - shall I aasume you are illiterate? Your command of English is
not exactly "great". For someone who allegedly lives in Canada, and who
considers himself to be an ubermansch of great german descent, I would classify
you as a genetic anomaly in the perfection of german genetics. And especially
in your great blue blooded line.

2. Cowardice - you called people cowards because they dont sign their names. As
Jesus said, let those without sin cast the first stone. Yes, you sign your
posts with a name. However, not only is it a false name, you also LIED about
being from Canada. Infact, you are from Holland. Not only are you a coward but
also a ...

3. Liar - is this a trait you inherited from your magnificent blue blooded
line? Or is this a common German trait?

4. Racism - I dont think this has to be explained any further. Your posts
radiate racism. Is it possible you learned it from another great german hero,
Adolf Hitler? Or possibly Bismarck? If this was your attitude on IRC I am not
surprised that you got a harsh response. However you know that this is EXACTLY
the response one usually gets with such words. That IS why you lied about your
name and country of residence.

5. Aggression - If one wants to see who is truly aggressive, Poles or Germans,
one only needs to read some history. From the HRE, to the teutonic knights, to
partitions of Poland, to 2 world wars in one century, the holocaust included,
Germany is not a beacon of peace and civility. Infact, what I would classify as
savages, Germans have no rivals in this classification. Unless you equate
someone on IRC with Hitler amd co. But hey, why go back 60 years? One needs
only to look at the roaming bands of skinheads, attacks on auslanders, burning
of synagogues, destruction of jewish cemeteries, a sizeable fascist party, and
bombs left at bus-stops. This is MODERN day Germany. Oh, I forgot: football
hooligans who destroy property in other countries. Belgium during the Euro2000
footy tournament was such an example. Also, ask Greeks, Spaniards etc who the
worst tourists are. Fat, loud, rude, drunk Germans in speedos too small for
them will be the answer. Infact, maybe you read about this, on Mallorca, people
selling their property often specify tht the offer does not include Germans. So
you see, you are not very well liked, or for that matter, very civilized. Oh,
and shall I mention where the capital of WORLD child porn is? Not Amsterdam,
not Poland. You probably guessed already, Germany! Hell, people know what kinds
of porno germans like. Shall i conclude that germans are sexually deviant,
violent, drunk fat slobs with several streaks of racism and xenophobia? Well, I
will go ahead and conclude this.

6. Economy - Germany is richer than Poland. But take a look at east germany,
who despite trillions of marks from West Germany, are far below the level of
Poland. Germany was rebuilt by the west. By America''s Marshall Plan. As the
example of the east shows, Germans have no special superiority over Poland in
any field.

7. 2 weeks ago I ordered a taxi. The taxi driver, a German, arrived late
because he could not read a map. I, being Polish, took great pleasure yelling
at the kraut all the way to the airport. Usually the drivers are pakistanis or
africans. Luckily the plane was delayed. As for cleaning ladies being Polish,
this is true. But as was already stated, Poles are not lazy and dont live off
the welfare state. Hard and honest work is nothing to be ashamed about. Jesus
was a carpenter. laying about doing nothing except collecting welfare is far
more shameful. And this is a German specialty. I do wonder why you have no time
for menial but honest work. Perhaps watching child porn while complaining about
Poles takes up most of your time.

But then again, you arent even German. You are Dutch. Right?

[Gość: someone]

dear Herr Von Kluss

There is always an iota of truth in any observation. As they say here "where
there is smoke-ther''s fire". Althoug I strongly disagree with your overall
observations and comments, I must say that there is some truth to them. My son
was visiting the Chech Republic and had Krakow on his schedule. Passing the
boarder into Poland he soon noticed that his camera was gone. A nice Polish
fekllow from Katowice felt sorry and invited him home, where he stayed for one
night. The next day he was driven to Krakow, where he decided to stay with
Polish-American students, In the evening they visited a pub. Suddenly the doors
open wide and a uniformed neo-nazi group entered. The Amerikans froze. They
couldn''t believe their eyes. The right hand salute, intimidation, shouts...just
like in the good, old, times....but, this time in Polish. So you see, your
observations were not totally wrong. It seems to me that those people do not
learn from history, and are thus bound to repeat their mistakes. True their
geography is very unfortunate, placed between the rock and hard place.
Nevertheless to spend eons fighting for others while being unable to maintain a
sound country for yourself does not speak very highly of the Polish people.
This is the tragedy of Poland.

[Gość: gadula]

Wow!
The neo-nazi group that you are talking about are all over the world including
the country your are writing from – how about the Ku Klux Klan?
I guess it the result of the freedom that some naïve youngsters try to
exercise. That what is forbidden is always the subject of the youngsters
attention which provide them with the tools to shock or to attract others
attention. There was a time when the witchcraft was very popular among them and
perhaps there is a time for change – nothing will stop them – as long as the
freedom is concern. It is important to me that none of them is killing anybody
unlike some who have learned form the past, who have much more to be concern
about.
Best regards,
Gadula

[Gość: ........]

Gość portalu: someone napisał(a):

> dear Herr Von Kluss
>
> There is always an iota of truth in any observation. As they say here "where
> there is smoke-ther''''s fire". Althoug I strongly disagree with your overall
> observations and comments, I must say that there is some truth to them. My son
> was visiting the Chech Republic and had Krakow on his schedule. Passing the
> boarder into Poland he soon noticed that his camera was gone. A nice Polish
> fekllow from Katowice felt sorry and invited him home, where he stayed for one
> night. The next day he was driven to Krakow, where he decided to stay with
> Polish-American students, In the evening they visited a pub. Suddenly the doors
>
> open wide and a uniformed neo-nazi group entered. The Amerikans froze. They
> couldn''''t believe their eyes. The right hand salute, intimidation, shouts...jus
> t
> like in the good, old, times....but, this time in Polish. So you see, your
> observations were not totally wrong. It seems to me that those people do not
> learn from history, and are thus bound to repeat their mistakes. True their
> geography is very unfortunate, placed between the rock and hard place.
> Nevertheless to spend eons fighting for others while being unable to maintain a
>
> sound country for yourself does not speak very highly of the Polish people.
> This is the tragedy of Poland.

You''ve said: "The Americans froze". Before they judge anybody
they should see theirs (American) soldiers and their behavior in
foreign countries where is no war. Fulfillment of the word
"savagery" is right there.

You want to buy Poland! Don''t you?

[Gość: Polak]

That''s what you want! Your intentions are clear!
You are bilding Fourth Riech again.
Take a look at this site Count von Kleist
www.bilderberg.org
Polak

[Gość: Kris]

One thing that comes to my mind right away is, how did you know you were
insulted if nobody was communicating with you in english? On the other hand,
this kind of treatment you will experience in any chat room in any language,
anywhere on the net. Why? Because people hide behind screen names wich don''t
mean anything. They feel that they don''t have to be responsible for anything
they say. I am suprised that you didn''t know that. Actually, reading your
message I thing that you already had an opinion about Poles before you visited
channel you mentioned. You just needed a hard proof that you are right.

You may read it as another example of uncivilized behavior, but I hope that you
don''t think that any body will miss you in Poland. Just like nobody will miss
me in Germany or England or France. And I won''t miss those countries any way
since you can be killed there for beeing a Pole, Turk or Armanian. And that
makes those countries uncivilized even more.

Good day.

Was any German house burned in Poland?

[Gość: Polak]

Turkish houses have been set up in fire by Germans and other bildings housing
refugees had burned in Germany in last years. Poles had been beaten with
baseball bats and cars with PL sticker had been vandilized in Germany.
Did any German was beaten in Poland?
Nation who started two World Wars in 20 years and lost them must not be very
smart at all.
Germans are good in building killing machines and drinking beer that''s all.

[Gość: Ash]

You are not right with Your opinion about the Poles.
I vizited Poland a ear ago, and I was very impressed of this country.
The people in the Main towns are very underatamding the foreign turists,and I
was talking with a lot of people there.
They threated me very friendly, speccially the owners of the houses, i was
hired apartments. I''ve been in WARSHAW, KRAKOW, WROCLAW, ZAKOPANE e.t.c.
and enjoined every minut my journy in POLAND.

[Gość: emil]

Listen people why even bother answering that idiot?

LERN POLISH BUTHEAD

[Gość: pol]

WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD FOR YOU IN POLAND.
GOOD LUCK.

[Gość: tak]

A ja ci napisze po polsku mimo ze mowie biegle piecioma jezykami i miszkam za
granica i nie czyszcze toalet. Gdyby mi przyszlo to zrobic, by przezyc nie ma
problemow, praca jak kazda inna.
Mam pytanie - pofatyguj sie do swojego przyjaciela, zeby ci przetlumaczyl
Jezeli nienawidzisz Slowian, nie zalujesz czasem, ze twoja mlodosc nie
przypadla na czas II wojny swiatowej? Moglbys sie wyzyc w inny sposob nad
Slowianami w bardziej bestialski sposob- przypominam KL AUSCHWITZ.
Jezeli jestes Niemcem, urodzonym za granica, do Kanady musieli przybyc twoi
przodkowie, ktorzy w nie mogli sie poslugiwac swoim ojczystym niemieckim
jezykiem. Kaleczyli na pewno angielski mowili z twardym akcentem i byc moze
czyscili toalety.Teraz patrzysz z pogarda na ludzi z pierwszej generacji,
ktorzy to robia, co robili twoi rodzice. Ty tego nie robisz, bo ktos musial sie
poswiecic,/ twoi rodzice/ bys moze mial troche lepszy status. Ale nie
wyplenili nienawisci do innych.
Ktokolwiek kryje sie pod ta kreatura, dostaje ode mnie taka odpowiedz, bo slowa
ogolnie sa obrazliwe dla wszystkich Slowian, ktorzy przezyli niemiecka pozoge.