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IP: 198.138.227.* 24.01.02, 16:37
Warsaw, Jan. 19, 2002



The Commissioner for Human Rights Council of Europe
F-67075 Strasbourg CEDEX




I would like to inform about the situation of medical malpractice victims in
Poland and our organization's work and our situation. This letter is a request
for help. Polish Patients' Association Primum Non Nocere - was established in
November 1998 as an NGO, organization of medical malpractice victims survivors
and their families. In Poland such people are left without social help and
medical assistance. Malpractice cases are strictly concealed in the name of
medical solidarity, the interest and safety of physicians obviously more
important than the fate and health of their victims.
Apart from our daily activity (legal aid to victims) we have organised press
conferences, sent petitions to members of parliament and staged protests and
demonstrations in order to put more pressure on politicians to change the law.
In response the Polish authorities launched attacks against our organization.
They did this in two ways:

1. The Warsaw municipal authority prosecutor brought court charges against us
when our volunteers put up posters advocating patient rights and help for
medical malpractice victims. The same happened after we put up our
parliamentary election posters. ( In the time of parliamentary election we had
our candidates ) The official reason for the charges was that the posters
caused disorder and were placed on municipal posts (cf: article 9 and 10 of the
European Human Rights Convention). To date the courts have of course dismissed
all accusations but it took time and nerves. You can see the court verdicts
scans on our website at:
verdict 1
page 1: www.sppnn.org.pl/liber/o1.gif
page 2:www.sppnn.org.pl/liber/o2.gif
verdict 2
page 1: www.sppnn.org.pl/liber/w1.gif
page 2: www.sppnn.org.pl/liber/w2.gif
page 3: www.sppnn.org.pl/liber/w3.gif
The public prosecutor lost in court but continued to make the news with further
charges and our next case is scheduled for January 21. The charges here are
against Mrs Stanislawa Liber, a widow whose husband died in result of medical
malpractice. The purpose of such proceedings is to make our life difficult and
force us into stopping our activity.

2. There are also another accusations against our organization - but let me
start with some information about the situation in Poland: data from other
countries allow us to conclude that 20.000 - 40.000 people in Poland die or
suffer each year due to medical malpractice. Only five or six hundred medical
malpractice survivors get social and medical help (after a court verdict
confirming they had fallen prey to medical malpractice. In Poland we have 3
(A,B and C) legal ways to confirm medical malpractice:
A. The civil court. The proceeding can take several years and often are so
costly that most victims have no money to start them (a violation of art. 16
rec. (200)/5, Council of Europe Ministers' Committee). Those who lose their
cases also lose a lot of money and win the hatred of the medical lobby. Medical
solidarity and forged medical records make such hearings very difficult.
Because of this we only process approximately 1,200 civil court complaints per
year, with the courts returning about 500 verdicts confirming medical
malpractice.
B. Criminal investigation. Criminal court verdicts confirming medical
malpractice are extremely rare in Poland. The public persecutor either refuses
to investigate complaints or winds up the investigation without launching court
charges.
C. The medical court. Medical court verdicts are also extremely rare in Poland
In 2000 there were approximately 2,000 complaints by malpractice victims to the
medical chamber and only 146 verdicts confirming medical malpractice cases.
There were no verdicts banning malpracticing doctors from their profession.
Before we started up in 1998 there were only 18 malpractice-confirming
verdicts. Proceedings before the medical chamber can take place only in the
presence of a chamber member (doctor). Medical malpractice victims can take
part in the proceedings only as witnesses, if they are invited to testify.
Medical hearings are hidden from the public and the press (a violation of art.
6 of the European Human Rights Convention).

We can estimate that each year no less then 15, 000 medical malpractice victims
suffer and receive no help. Such cases are swept under the carpet in Poland,
hence our efforts to disclose them and give victims a chance to make Their
complaints public. A person outside Poland has set up a web guestbook in which
medical malpractice victims or their families can publish complaints. There is
only one condition - the complaint must be signed. You will find the guestbook
(in Polish) at:
htmlgear.lycos.com/guest/control.guest?u=sppnn0&i=1&a=view
The site also contains an outline of the medical malpractice problem, our
reasons for disclosing medical malpractice cases and other information (in
Polish):
www.angelfire.com/extreme2/lista/lista.htm
When we informed the media about the list of complaints, the medical lobby
launched attacks against us. Their argumentation was that it was "illegal and
criminal to publish complaints with no juridical verdict", or that it
is "offensive for the medical profession to place such information in the
internet".

A new ombudsman was elected in Poland last year. Our relations with his
predecessor (professor A. Zielinski) were very good. The present ombudsman,
professor A. Zoll, is a lawyer from Cracow.... / ....this part of text is
temporaly hiden..../.... He wrote a letter to the minister of justice
suggesting investigations into the weblist of medical malpractice victims,
banning the list and punishing us and the listed malpractice victims for
ruining the medical lobby's image (cf: art. 15 and 16 of the Recommendation
Rec. (2000) 5, Council of Europe Ministers' Committee). The prosecution agreed
to open the case.

You can find information (in Polish) about the new Polish ombudsman's activity
and the text of his letter to the minister of justice on the National Medical
Chamber's website: www.nil.org.pl/news/serwis/se100701p.htm
The Polish authorities' steps in this respect are a serious violation of
Recommendation Rec. (2000) 5 of the Council of Europe Ministers' Committee and
have been undertaken in order is to hamper our work.

Please regard this letter as a complaint and request for help.

Best regards,

Adam Sandauer, Ph. D.
President, Primum Non Nocere Polish Patients' Association
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    • Gość: polonus Re: no comments IP: 198.138.227.* 24.01.02, 16:42
      jak widac z ponizszego raportu lekarze w Polsce to nie tylko mafia ale mafia
      majace pelne poparcie wladz...
    • Gość: Krzyżak Re: do koga ta żaluzja IP: *.torun.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 24.01.02, 17:14
      Polonus powiedz ,czy to dla forumowiczów? przecietny forumowicz nie przeczyta
      tego.
      Proponuje krótki polski komentarz.
    • b3ut Re: no comments 24.01.02, 19:39
      Pan mówi o przyrodzie (ale jak jeszzce raz dostane maila od Sandauera to będzie
      się modlił żeby tym razem lekarze nie popełnili błędu, i żeby nie mieli pod
      ręką pavulonu
    • Gość: polonus o co chodzi czyli dla tych co nie gesi ... IP: 198.138.227.* 24.01.02, 22:49
      Gość portalu: polonus napisał(a):
      na prosbe kolego krzyzaka szybkie zgrubsze tlumaczenie wiekszej czesci listu:

      > Warsaw, Jan. 19, 2002
      >
      >
      >
      > The Commissioner for Human Rights Council of Europe
      > F-67075 Strasbourg CEDEX
      Kroto jest to list Komisarza Europejskiej Rady Praw Czlowieka
      informujacy ze w Polsce maja miejsce naduzycia medyczne. O tym ze ofiary tych
      nauuzyc w Polsce sa pozostawiane bez pomocy socjalnej i medycznej pomocy.
      Naduzycia sie skrzetnie ukrywane w imieniu medycznej solidarnosci, interesy
      lekarzy sa stawiane na pierwszym miejscu przed dobrem pacjetow.

      Organizacja zalozona w 98' roku procz pomocy ofiara organizuje konferencje
      prasowe, wysyla petycje do czlonkow parlamentu organizuje tez demonstracje w celu
      nacisku na wladze.

      Polskie wladze w odpowiedzi na zarzuty przypuscily ataki na organizacje w dwojaki
      sposob:

      1. Warszawski prokurator miejski postawil oskarzenia przeciwko organizacji gdy
      nasi wolontariusze wystawili transparety walczace o prawa pacjetow bedacych
      ofiarami niedopatrzen medycznych.
      2 sa tez inne oskarzenia przeciwko naszej organizacji, ale najpierw pare
      informacji statystycznych, 20-40k osob w Polsce zmarlo lub cierpialo wskutek
      medycznych zaniedban.
      Tylko 600 sposrod tych co przezyli otrzymalo pomoc socjalna lub medyczna (po
      wyroku sadu ze sa ofiarami)
      W Polsc sa 3 sposoby aby potwierdzic malpractice (postepowanie nie z etyka
      zawodowa)
      > A. sad cywilny postepowanie prawne trwa kilka lat jest kosztowne, (ofiary
      czesto nie maja kasy aby nawet je wszczac)
      (aco jest naruszeniem art. 16 rec. (200)/5, Council of Europe Ministers'
      Committee). Ci co przegrywaja traca duzo kasy jak i zyskuja nienawisc lobby
      medycznego
      Medyczna
      Medical solidarnosc i zfalszowane wyniki badan medycznych czynia przesluchania
      bardzo trudne.
      Z tego powodu moze pomoc tylko w 1200 sprawach rocznie z czego 500 zalatwionych
      pozytywnie.

      > B. Sledztwo kryminalne
      Wyroki sadu kryminalne sa w polsce ekstremalnie rzadkie.
      Publiczny oskarzyciel albo odmawia przeprowadzenie sledztwa albo konczy je bez
      postawienia oskarzen.

      > C. Sad medyczny. Wyroki sadu medycznego sa rowniez niezwykle rzadkie w Polsce
      Na 2000 skarg do izby medycznej bylo tylko 146 gdzie uznano medzyczna malpractice.
      Nie bylo zadnego wyroku zakazujacego skorumpowanemu doktorowi dalszej praktyki
      lekarskiej.
      Zaczym nasza organizacja powstala w 1998 roku bylo tylko 18 wyrokow
      potwierdzajacych medyczne naduzycia
      Dochodzenie w izbie medycznej moze miec miejsce tylko w obecnosci czlonka izby
      (doktora), ofiary moga brac udzial tylko jako swiatkowie, jesli sa poproszeni o
      zeznania.
      Przesluchania sa tajne, nie podaje si ich od wiadomosci publicznej.
      (naruszenie art. 6 of the European Human Rights Convention).

      Oceniamy ze kazdego roku nie mniej niz 15k ofiar cierpi i nie otrzymuje pomocy.
      Takie przypadki sa skrzetnie ukrywanie w Polsce, stad nasze wisilki w celu
      zdemaskowania ich i pomocy ofiara.

      Pewna osoba za garnica zalozyla ksiage skarg w ktorej ofiary i ichrodziny
      moga wpisywac swoje skargi (warunkiem jest podpisanie skargi)
      > <a href="http://htmlgear.lycos.com/guest/control.guest?u=sppnn0&i=1&a=view">htm
      > lgear.lycos.com/guest/control.guest?u=sppnn0&i=1&a=view</a>
      strona zawiera takze opis problemu i powody dla ktorych naduzycie zostalo
      opublikowane.
      > <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/extreme2/lista/lista.htm">www.angelfire.com/e
      > xtreme2/lista/lista.htm</a>

      Gdy polskie media zostaly poinformowane o tym. lobby medyczne przypusiclo atak
      przeciwko nam jako ze jest zecza nielagalna publikowac skargi bez zgody sadu
      jest to tez obrazliwe dla srodowiska medycznego publikacja tego w internecie.

      Nowy rzecznik praw obywatelskich wybrany w zeszlym roku (nasze stosunki z
      poprzednim professor A. Zielinski byly very good)
      Terazniejszy professor A. Zoll, jest prawnikiem z Cracow.
      Napisal on list do ministra sprawiedliwosci sugerujac sledztwo w sprawie listy i
      karajac organizacje i ofiary z listy za zbrukanie obrazu lobby medycznego
      Prokuratura otworzyla sprawe.

      Informacje na temat czynnosci rzecznika i list do ministra znajduja sie:
      <a href="http://www.nil.org.pl/news/serwis/se100701p.htm">ww
      > w.nil.org.pl/news/serwis/se100701p.htm</a>

      kroki wplad polskich w tej sprawie sa naruszeniem
      > Recommendation Rec. (2000) 5 of the Council of Europe Ministers' Committee and
      i byly powziete aby utrudnic nasza prace
      >
      > Please regard this letter as a complaint and request for help.
      prosze potraktuj ten list jako zazalenie i prosbe o pomoc.
      > Best regards,
      >
      > Adam Sandauer, Ph. D.
      > President, Primum Non Nocere Polish Patients' Association
      >

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