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Able Danger: Cover-Up Worse Than Watergate?
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Government/Barbara Anderson November 11, 2005 -

Appearing on Lou Dobbs Tonight, Congressman Curt Weldon charged “Lou, this is
a cover-up. It’s not a third-rate political burglary. It’s a cover-up of
information on the largest attack in the history of the country.” Congressman
Weldon was speaking of Able Danger and the information he says Able Danger
collected but was not allowed to present to the 9/11 Commission.

Able Danger was a relatively small data-mining operation that ended in 2000.
One of its members, LTC Anthony Shaffer went public, saying that his group
had collected information that identified Al-Qaeda terrorists in several
places in this country before the 9/11 attacks. The implication is that if
this information had been used properly, the terrorist attacks on New York
and Washington could have been thwarted. LTC Shaffer further related that the
members of Able Danger were ready to testify before the 9/11 Commission, but
were never called. In fact, Able Danger was never mentioned in the final 9/11
Commission Report. In a previous interview Congressman Weldon said that we
need to know about a massive amount of data being destroyed. We need to know
who destroyed 2.5 terabytes of data. Weldon says he was curious as to how
much data that actually was, so he contacted the Library of Congress, the
largest library in the world. He said he was told that it’s equal to ¼ of all
the printed material that the Library of Congress has in its collection. This
massive amount of material about the largest and most aggressive
international terrorist organization in the world was destroyed. Special
Forces General Lambert was never consulted before the data was destroyed and
was livid when he found out that his data had been deleted, according to
Congressman Weldon.

In addition to identifying the ringleaders of the 9/11 attacks, Congressman
Weldon says Able Danger warned defense officials about terrorist activity in
the Port of Aden in Yemen, two weeks before that bombing of the U.S.S. Cole
in 2000, which killed seventeen American sailors. That information was also
not included in the final 9/11 Commission Report.

Congressman Weldon referred to remarks made by former FBI Director, Louis
Freeh, who said that the Able Danger information was the kind of intelligence
that could have prevented the hijackings. What the 9/11 Commission did show
was the lack of communication between the different agencies because of
a “firewall” set up to hinder such communication. It has been charged that
the person responsible for that wall was none other than Jamie Gorelick, who
sat on the 9/11 Commission.

Congressman Weldon has gone to bat for LTC Shaffer and reported
earlier: “They have gagged the military officers. They have prevented them
from talking to the media. And the Defense Intelligence Agency has began a
process to destroy the career and the life of Lieutenant Colonel Anthony
Shaffer”. According to Representative Weldon, one day before the Lieutenant
Colonel was to testify before the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, in
uniform, they permanently removed his security clearance. The Defense
Intelligence Agency has told LTC Shaffer that they plan to seek a permanent
removal of his pay and his health care benefits for him and his two children.
They have planted scurrilous stories in the media. They have trumped up
charges against him. All this time he is not allowed to speak publicly to
defend himself.

Congressman Weldon has called for a criminal investigation into what he says
is the most important story of our lifetime. He says that he has support from
fellow lawmakers from both parties. He notes that there were people within
the Pentagon who stayed in place from the 1999/2000 period into 2001 and they
are still there today. They have a vested interest in not having the story be
told because some of them are going to be embarrassed because the American
people will see we failed them in 1999 and 2000. It sounds as if he suspects
which department has reason to cover up and thwart any further investigation.
It remains to be seen if members of both political parties will act on this
in a truly bi-partisan way. Their track record is not good, but this is the
security of all Americans at stake. If the mistakes made before 9/11 are not
uncovered, the likelihood of an avoidable tragedy in the future is still
there. Congressman Weldon has been the out-front mover of this story. He
deserves credit for insisting on a valid 9/11 Commission Report that tells
the whole story, let the blame fall where it may.

Running concurrently with Congressman Weldon’s appearance on the Lou Dobbs
show was a poll, asking the question if its viewers would entertain the idea
of voting for a third party. At last reporting, 71% said YES! This underlines
the other polling taking place which reports that both Republicans and
Democrats are seen as not taking care of the people’s business. The Democrats
are busy chasing a Scooter. Both parties profess to care whether athletes
have been on steroids and hold long investigations into that weighty matter.
Meanwhile, the vital business of providing security for all citizens is
perceived to be almost ignored. Is the failure of using Able Danger properly
part of the discontent the people have with both parties?

Congressman Curt Weldon is doing his part in getting this story out, but he
is one person. The rest of American citizens who care about the 3,000 fellow
citizens who met horrible deaths on 9/11 need to get in line behind him. This
is one matter that could stand more investigations.

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    • antymuslim1 A slon wlasnie wyruchal mrowke??????? 17.11.05, 18:51
      A bin Laden jest Chinczykiem??????
    • explicit Re: Watergate to pestka , tam nikt nie zginal ,.. 17.11.05, 19:07
      Z ostatniej chwili - Ma poparcie ,...

      uklony

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      NewsTrack

      Weldon seeks Defense testimony on al-Qaida
      ===========================================
      WASHINGTON, Nov. 17 (UPI)
      • jennifer5 to wazny temat 17.11.05, 20:11
        explicit napisał:

        > The Hill, a Washington newspaper, reported Thursday Weldon has more than 200
        > other members of Congress signing a letter to Secretary of Defense Donald
        > Rumsfeld about Able Danger.

        ---

        Kiedys juz o tym pisalam ale zostalam jak zwykle zwymyslana od najgorszych.
        Dobrze ze znalazl sie ktos jeszcze, to wazny temat.

        www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=ableDanger
    • jennifer5 uwazaj explicit 17.11.05, 19:55
      explicit napisał:

      > Tutaj zginelo ponad 3 tys ludzi , wciagnieto nas w dwie wojny kosztem setek
      > miliardow dolarow i komus bardzo zalezy zeby ukryc prawde za wszelka cene ,...
      >
      > uklony

      ---

      "> Congressman Curt Weldon is doing his part in getting this story out, but he
      > is one person. The rest of American citizens who care about the 3,000 fellow
      > citizens who met horrible deaths on 9/11 need to get in line behind him. This
      > is one matter that could stand more investigations."

      uwazaj explicit bo zostaniesz obrzucony blotem i wyzwany od najgorszych. Jest
      tutaj taki jeden co swieci przykladem grubianstwa, ignorancji i brakiem
      logicznego myslenia. Dopuki takich bedzie wiecej zawsze bedzie burdel w stylu
      9/11 i itd...>>>!
      • rattler Re: uwazaj explicit 18.11.05, 14:46
        Jenifer , na pocieche ... Doswiadczenie podpowiada , ze im bardziej krzykliwy
        na podworku tym bardziej poniewierany w domu - Lepiej ci ?

        Zbyt sie przejmujesz jego uwagami , facet ma wyrazna aversje do kobiet ,
        pozatym zupelnie niegrozny pajac - Nie daj sie :)))

        narazie

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        uwazaj explicit bo zostaniesz obrzucony blotem i wyzwany od najgorszych. Jest
        tutaj taki jeden co swieci przykladem grubianstwa, ignorancji i brakiem
        logicznego myslenia. Dopuki takich bedzie wiecej zawsze bedzie burdel w stylu
        9/11 i itd...>>>!
    • dan34bratdany33 Re: Watergate to pestka , tam nikt nie zginal ,.. 17.11.05, 20:01
      Slad bedzie prowadzic do syjonazioli,neokonow jako ich bezposrednich
      wykonawcow chucpy z 11/9.
    • rattler Re: Watergate to pestka , tam nikt nie zginal ,.. 17.11.05, 21:00
      Zapomniales o ponad 2-ch tys GI's ktorzy stracili zycie , 27-miu tys rannych ,
      22-ch tys potrzebujacych shrinks i ponad 12-tu tys amputees (czesto multiple)
      z naszej strony nie liczas sierot , wdow , rozwalonych malzenstw , bankrucpji
      moralnej i finansowej , nie wspominajac kilkudziesieciu tys zabitych i drugie
      tyle kalek po drugiej stronie .

      Sp;lit , 99.9 % zatrudnionych w DOD (nie liczac Armed Forces) to karierowicze i
      administracja . Zmiania sie tylko 'gora' zaleznie od administracji , reszta ma
      stolki do konca zycia , status quo , stary , nikomu nie zalezy na przyslowiowym
      'rock the boat' ... Ani poprzedniej aministracji , ani obecnej , nie otwieraj
      japy ze zdziwienia jesli okaze sie ze DOD lawyers maczali w tym palce , ktorzy
      tam byli za Clintona , C Powell , sa tam do dzisiaj i decyduja.

      Good luck , Congressman Weldon - Jesli nawet dojdzie do przesluchania to znajda
      paru kozlow ofiarnych , ktorych rzuca na pozarcie i wynagrodza odpowiednio w/g
      zaslug cieplymi posadkami w prywatnym sektorze , jak Wolfowitza i po ptokach .

      Prezydent D Eisenhower ostrzegal Amerykanow u schylku zycia przed wszechmocnym
      Military-Industrial Complex , prorocze slowa , minelo kilkadziesiat lat jak z
      bata strzelil i ciagle aktualne .

      narazie
    • felusiak1 Zacieranie sladow 17.11.05, 21:11
      Popatrz split kto siedzial w 911 commossion. Benveniste i Gorelick.
      A jakie mieli zadanie? Wybielic tylek Clintonowi lub nie dopuscic do oczernienia.
      W tej sytuacji komisja byla cialem silnie upolitycznionym czego dowodem moze byc
      przeciek na kilka tygodni przed ostatecznym raportem. Przeciek obsmarowywal
      tylek Bushowi. To nie kto inny a Gorelick umocnila sciany pomiedzy FBI, CIA i
      wywiadem wojskowym. Wymiana informacji pomiedzy tymi trzema agencjami byla
      przestepstwem kryminalnym. Wobec tego dlaczego wogole zasiadala w komisji?
      Aby moc blokowac jej zapedy.
      Juz kiedys pisalem, ze prawde poznamy za kilkadziesiat lat, kiedy nikt z
      zyjacych nie bedzie nosil w sobie politycznych emocji w stosunku do Clintona i
      Busha.
      • jennifer5 Re: Zacieranie sladow 17.11.05, 21:14
        felusiak1 napisała:
        .
        > Juz kiedys pisalem, ze prawde poznamy za kilkadziesiat lat, kiedy nikt z
        > zyjacych nie bedzie nosil w sobie politycznych emocji w stosunku do Clintona i
        > Busha.

        ty stukniety jestes.. tutaj jest cos dla ciebie:
        forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=50&w=32124941
        ---
        www.whitehouse.org/initiatives/patriot/index.asp
      • explicit Re: Zacieranie sladow 17.11.05, 23:07
        Nie twierdze ze nie , felusiak , wytlumacz mi tylko dlaczego Rommie broni dupy
        poprzedniej administracji broniac sie przed wyeksponowaniem prawdy i roli duetu
        Benveniste , Gorelick i ich roli w tym sledztwie ,...

        Trzymaj sie sedna tematu , my friend , w tym epizodzie historii obie partie
        bronia wlasnej dupy , twoje "u was tez bija murzynow" nie wybiela Reps ,
        bo ja nie jestem zadnym z was , (self-respect if you know what I mean) . Wole
        byc Buchananowcem w okopach niz Reps pretendujacym ze reprezentuje konserwe ,
        kiedy sprzedaja hurtem interes Ameryki ,...

        uklony

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        Popatrz split kto siedzial w 911 commossion. Benveniste i Gorelick. A jakie
        mieli zadanie? Wybielic tylek Clintonowi lub nie dopuscic do oczernienia.


        • felusiak1 Re: Zacieranie sladow 17.11.05, 23:43
          A co ma do tego Rumsfeld i w jaki sposob broni?
          Come on, split.
          I jeszcze jedno. Czy ty uwazasz, ze Afganistan to tez buszowska awantura i nie
          powinnismy byli tam isc?
          • explicit Re: Zacieranie sladow 18.11.05, 18:02
            Moze to cie przekona - Dzis rano slyszalem ze ma juz 227 podpisow i poparcie
            bylego dyrektora FBI , Louis Freeh ,...

            uklony

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            Just prior to their scheduled testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee
            Sept. 21, Phillpott and Shaffer were given gag orders by Department of Defense.

            Mounting pressure on Secretary Rumsfeld
            ========================================

            Pressure continues to mount for the Pentagon allow the Able Danger witnesses to
            testify. Last Friday, Weldon told CNN's Lou Dobbs he had secured 100 signatures
            from members of Congress calling upon Secretary Rumsfeld to allow the testimony
            of Able Danger team members. By Wednesday afternoon there were a total 150
            signatories, including 90 Republicans and 60 Democrats. By 7 p.m., a press
            release posted on Congressman Weldon's website asserted that 202 members had
            signed.

            rawstory.com/news/2005/Support_grows_in_Congress_to_allow_1117.html

            ==============================================================================

            A co ma do tego Rumsfeld i w jaki sposob broni? Come on, split.
        • felusiak1 Re: Zacieranie sladow 17.11.05, 23:45
          forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=50&w=28083895&a=28087771
        • rattler Re: Zacieranie sladow 18.11.05, 14:28
          Masz tu cos na utarcie nosa Felusiakowi - Niestety za Rumsfelda uczciwym ludziom
          sku..ele rujnuja kariere i za Rumswelda surwieli jak ten odpowiedzialny za
          cover-up promuje sie do stopnia zastepcy szefa Defense Intelligence Agency .

          Tu masz czesciowa odpowiedz dlaczego tak wczesnie odeszlem do cywila , poprostu
          nie nadaje sie na przepychanki z lawyerkami z DOD , a na field wyzej nie
          zajdziesz , bo jak sie przychodzi czas na nalezna ci promocje to ci przysla
          lapiducha z DOD na twoje miejsce a ty dalej czekasz . Ten burdel zaczal sie za
          Clintona i trwa do dzisiaj . Masa ludzi z doswiadczeniem w akcji odchodzi , ich
          miejsca zajmuja (yes sir) karierowicze i stad mamy co mamy w USAF . Syf !!!

          narazie

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          Congressional Record: October 6, 2005 (House)
          Page H8728-H8729

          DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY USING FALSE CLAIMS TO SILENCE COLONEL

          The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker's announced policy of
          January 4, 2005, the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Weldon) is
          recognized for half the remaining time until midnight.
          Mr. WELDON of Pennsylvania. Madam Speaker, I rise this evening for
          this short Special Order to express my personal outrage regarding the
          treatment of some brave military personnel who simply are trying to
          tell the truth.
          Madam Speaker, over the past 3 months, I have outlined for our
          colleagues evidence that came from military officers that we had
          knowledge of Mohammed Atta and al Qaeda prior to September 11 and the
          attack against us in New York City. This information came about from a
          top secret program known as ``Able Danger'' which was a program that
          was developed by Special Forces Command as a planning process to deal
          with al Qaeda cells.
          The military officers involved with this program identified 5
          specific cells around the world, one of which was a Brooklyn cell, and
          this Brooklyn cell, one year before 9/11; in fact, in January and
          February of 2000, actually identified Mohammed Atta, 3 of the other
          terrorists that were involved in the 9/11 attack, and identified this
          in a chart that was produced as a part of their planning process.
          Furthermore, Madam Speaker, these military officers have testified,
          and will testify under oath, that in September of 2000, one year before
          September 11, they made 3 attempts to transfer information regarding
          the Brooklyn cell and Mohammed Atta to the FBI. An FBI employee has
          again agreed to testify under oath that she arranged the 3 meetings and
          agreed to set up for the FBI the opportunity to receive this data. All
          3 meetings were canceled by lawyers within the previous administration,
          the Clinton administration.
          We still do not know who gave the ultimate order or why those
          meetings were canceled, but we do know that in September of 2000,
          attempts to transfer information regarding al Qaeda, the Brooklyn cell,
          and Mohammed Atta were thwarted.
          This information was presented to the 9/11 Commission in an effort to
          provide a clear and concise analysis of what happened prior to 9/11. On
          2 separate occasions, a Lieutenant Colonel from the Army, Anthony
          Shaffer and a commander from the Navy, Scott Philpott, offered to
          provide information to the 9/11 Commission that they, in fact, were
          involved with Able Danger and that they identified Mohammed Atta prior
          to 9/11.
          Colonel Shaffer, who was promoted during the past year, during a time
          in which his security clearance had been temporarily lifted by the
          Defense Intelligence Agency, has been the subject of gross and
          outrageous harassment. I have been on the Committee on Armed Services
          for 19 years, and my job as a member of that committee has been to
          support our military personnel when they are assigned overseas or when
          they are at home during their training and other operations. As I
          mentioned to Secretary Rumsfeld in a hearing last Thursday, a full
          committee hearing, I have supported every major reform that he has put
          forth over the past several years regarding our military, the way our
          military operates, and the way the Pentagon is organized.
          Madam Speaker, Secretary Rumsfeld has repeatedly told us that his top
          priority is the morale and the welfare of our troops. The commander of
          the Joint Chiefs of Staff, both the recent and now the current Chairman
          of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, repeatedly tell us their top priority is
          the protection of our military personnel in uniform. And now, we find
          out that Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer, a Bronze Star recipient,
          23-year veteran of military intelligence, serving in Afghanistan,
          embedded with our troops in harm's way, has had gross distortions and
          absolute outrageous claims made against him publicly by the Defense
          Intelligence Agency as a way to silence him.

          {time} 2345

          Lieutenant Colonel Shaffer has been prohibited from talking to
          Members of Congress. He has been stopped from testifying before the
          Senate Judiciary Committee in spite of the fact that five senators from
          both parties were present at a hearing 2 weeks ago. Lieutenant Shaffer
          was in the room. Lieutenant Colonel Shaffer was in the room, yet he was
          not permitted to testify. His lawyer, in fact, made statements for him.
          But in an attempt to totally discredit Lieutenant Colonel Shaffer, in
          an attempt to try to diminish his credibility before the American
          people and the Congress, the Defense Intelligence Agency has resorted
          to a new set of lows in terms of the credibility of our American
          military. And no, Madam Speaker, I do not think this action by the
          Defense Intelligence Agency has been brought forward by uniformed
          military personnel. It has been brought forward by the bureaucrats, the
          sort of bureaucrats who linger from one administration to the other and
          who have the embarrassment of having to understand what Lieutenant
          Colonel Shaffer and commander Scott Philpott did in warning us,
          attempting to warn us about the 9/11 attacks.
          The Defense Intelligence Agency, 1 day before Lieutenant Colonel
          Shaffer was to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee,
          permanently pulled his security clearance, and the reasons they gave,
          Madam Speaker, were outrageous. They are scandalous. They said that he
          had forwarded phone calls on his cell phone while being deployed in
          Afghanistan for a total cost of approximately $67. They said that he
          had received mileage and toll fees improperly for attending a military
          conference at Fort Dix, New Jersey, which anyone in this body would say
          he was eligible to attend. $341. They said that he, in fact, received
          an award for which he was not entitled, even though his superior
          officers nominated him for that award. But in one of the most
          despicable acts I have ever seen a Federal agency involve itself in in
          19 years, they said on the record that Lieutenant Colonel Anthony
          Shaffer stole pens from the U.S. government.
          Now, what they did not say, Madam Speaker, was that Lieutenant
          Colonel Shaffer, when he was 15 or 16 years old, as the son of an
          officer assigned to one of our embassies, admitted to stealing some
          pens which he gave to some disadvantaged people. Now, clearly, when he
          was 15 or 16, he was not working for the military. He was not a
          military intelligence officer. He was yet to take his lie detector test
          for admission into that category, and he admitted all of this. But in
          this current effort to try to discredit Lieutenant Colonel Anthony
          Shaffer, the Defense Intelligence Agency went to the outrageous length
          of publicly acknowledging that Lieutenant Colonel Shaffer had stolen
          pens and failing to mention how old he was when the theft took place,
          that he publicly admitted himself before being employed by the
          military.
          Madam Speaker, we have a major problem in America. Sandy Berger, our
          Nat
          • rattler Re: Zacieranie sladow 18.11.05, 14:29
            Madam Speaker, we have a major problem in America. Sandy Berger, our
            National Security Advisor, stole documents from the National Archives,
            stole documents and put them in his clothing and took them out because
            they would incriminate him and President Clinton about what they knew
            before 9/11. He stole them. He placed them inside of his coat, in his
            pants, in his shoes, and he took those documents out of the National
            Archives because he did not want the 9/11 Commission to see what was in
            there. When he was caught, and finally brought to justice, his security
            clearance was lifted for 3 years.
            Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer simply told the truth and because
            Defense intelligence bureaucrats are unhappy about being embarrassed
            they have removed his security clearance permanently. Is that what
            America is about, Madam Speaker? Is it about protecting a national
            security advisor who steals classified documents from the archives of
            the United States about what happened before 9/11 and gets a 3-year
            lift of his clearance, and a uniformed military officer who simply
            tells the truth has his security clearance permanently lifted?
            Madam Speaker, if we do not right this wrong that will send and is
            sending a signal to every uniformed officer in America, if you tell the
            truth and if that truth embarrasses a bureaucrat or a political
            appointee, you are more expendable than the civilian officer, and

            [[Page H8729]]

            that cannot stand. We must do better. Anthony Shaffer deserves justice.

            • explicit Hehe , felusiak zrejterowal ,... :) 19.11.05, 19:31
              Dzieki , schowam sobie , "It's not over 'till the fat lady sings" ,...

              uklony
              • rattler Re: Hehe , felusiak zrejterowal ,... :) 21.11.05, 15:43
                Felusiak nigdy nie rejteruje , Felusiak jak to mowiom wycofal sie na z gory
                upatrzona pozycje - Stara jak swiat taktyka podjazdowa , hit and run - Taki
                forumowy Tito , al Zarqawi i damski boxer .

                narazie
    • you-know-who nie zalapales? 17.11.05, 21:43
      w Watergate dokonano wlamania czyli ciezkiej zbrodni przeciwko mieniu i cudzej
      wlasnosci na terenie usa.

      jak mozesz to porownywac z jedna z wojen daleko poza usa?
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