Kreml chciał nie dopuścić do festiwalu filmów o...

[Gość: DSD]

Bush, ucz się jak się wojny prowadzi.

[Gość: polar_fox_hunter]

OK, you'd better tell how people from there were stopped on
Polish border and how many of them are treated in Poland. Films
about what? Bandits killing soldiers? Bandints armed for
foreign money to destabilise peace in Russia? Hey, why don't
you let those guys in Poland; maybe they will show you a couple
of massacres and you might have a better look at the problem.

[Gość: gosc]

Gość portalu: polar_fox_hunter napisał(a):

> OK, you'd better tell how people from there were stopped on
> Polish border and how many of them are treated in Poland.
Films
> about what? Bandits killing soldiers? Bandints armed for
> foreign money to destabilise peace in Russia? Hey, why don't
> you let those guys in Poland; maybe they will show you a
couple
> of massacres and you might have a better look at the problem.
Hey, why should take them in Poland ? It's Russia's colony &
problem.

Mr Fox

[Gość: DSD]

I do not analyse now if presence of Russian troops in Chechenya is more/less
justified than US Army in Iraq. I only wonder what could happen if Bush administration
would try to stop similar festival in Washington DC...
P.S. I saw also how people from former USSR are treated by their own customs officers and
how Polish tourists are treated in Russia or Ukraine.

Bo Mr Bush nie jest WLASCICIELEM sal kinowych. A

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w Rosji ciagle wlascicielem gros kinoteatrow jest PANSTWO. I
moze sale wypozyczyc lub nie. Fox jest Rosjaninem, ale naprawde
nie musicie odpowiadac mu po angielsku - starcza jego
polszczyzny, by GW czytacv, to niech czyta i polskojezyczne
posty: po angioelsku mozemy sobie pogadac np. na czatach BBC

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Gość portalu: . napisał(a):

> w Rosji ciagle wlascicielem gros kinoteatrow jest PANSTWO. I
> moze sale wypozyczyc lub nie. Fox jest Rosjaninem, ale
naprawde
> nie musicie odpowiadac mu po angielsku - starcza jego
> polszczyzny, by GW czytacv, to niech czyta i polskojezyczne
> posty: po angioelsku mozemy sobie pogadac np. na czatach BBC

jak tu poczytac niektorych to w rosji drugi rzadowy jezyk to
polski. fajne.. :)
polish power!!!

Bush mial na pokaz filmow zaproszenie od AI

[Gość: grg]

Nie skorzystal.

Mnie tez sie Polska, jako ochronka dla islamskich

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terrorystow niezbyt podoba. Niestety, wyglada na to, ze i moja
Brytania robi za taka ochronke nie tylko dla islamistow, ale i
dla ruskich gangsterow!

PS. Mr Hunter , wy Czukcza, aaa?

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[Gość: grg]

Gość portalu: . napisał(a):

> terrorystow niezbyt podoba. Niestety, wyglada na to, ze i moja
> Brytania robi za taka ochronke nie tylko dla islamistow, ale i
> dla ruskich gangsterow!

Aha, ostatnio nawet jeden ruski gangster z KGB uzyskal azyl, po tym jak
zdradzili swoich mocodawcow z Kremla dla Londynu. Wiecej o tej nieudanej
akcji "rosyjskiej mafii":

Russian spies plot to kill tycoon in Britain

David Leppard
September 21, 2003

THE security service MI5 has been told of plots by suspected Russian secret
agents to assassinate a media tycoon granted asylum in Britain. One is said to
have involved an attempt to kill him with a poisoned pen.

An agent for the SVR, the former KGB, is said to have been sent to Britain to
stab Boris Berezovsky, the Russian billionaire, with a pen filled with poison
as he attended a London court hearing to contest his extradition on fraud
charges.

Disclosure of the plots follows a U-turn by David Blunkett, the home secretary,
who had initially refused to grant Berezovsky political asylum. It has chilling
echoes of the 1978 murder of Bulgarian defector Georgi Markov, who was killed
by an agent using the tip of a poisoned umbrella.

The Russian spy is said to have confessed that he had orders to smuggle a
cigarette lighter filled with a lethal poison into London's Bow Street
magistrates' court where Berezovsky was due to attend the extradition hearings.

Although the security service and police declined to comment officially, senior
Whitehall security officials said they were taking the allegations seriously.

One official confirmed that MI5 had been approached by a man claiming he had
been sent to Britain to murder the tycoon and they had referred the matter to
the police. The plot is understood to be under investigation by Scotland Yard.
A Whitehall source said: "A number of allegations have been made about plots.
One was made to MI5 and they passed it on."

It has also emerged that the full extradition hearings Berezovsky was due to
attend had been switched to a high security court at Belmarsh in south London,
apparently because of police concerns for his safety.

Five years ago in Russia, a former secret agent claimed to have been told by
his superiors to kill Berezovsky. The tycoon survived one assassination attempt
in Russia when his chauffeur was decapitated by a remote-controlled bomb. At
least two Russian parliament senators - members of his Liberal Russia party -
have also been murdered in Russia.

Berezovsky was first alerted to the latest threats on his life when he was
visited by Scotland Yard detectives last year. The officers told him they had
received intelligence that unidentified people had been sent to Britain to
assassinate him.

Insiders say the first agent sent to kill Berezovsky decided to betray his own
plot to MI5. "He told MI5 he had been sent to kill Berezovsky. He said that
if he didn't do it he couldn't go home. So he asked for political asylum."

Scotland Yard declined to discuss the matter and referred all inquiries to the
Home Office, which said it could not comment. The Kremlin and Russian secret
service declined to comment.

Additional reporting: Simon Ostrovsky, Moscow

TY FOX

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CAUJ MIENJA W ŻOPU.

Gość portalu: polar_fox_hunter napisał(a):

> OK, you'd better tell how people from there were stopped on
> Polish border and how many of them are treated in Poland.
Films
> about what? Bandits killing soldiers? Bandints armed for
> foreign money to destabilise peace in Russia? Hey, why don't
> you let those guys in Poland; maybe they will show you a
couple
> of massacres and you might have a better look at the
problem.

[Gość: wolfgang]

oj wiele trzeba zeby ci dorownac poziomem :)

[Gość: grg]

Gość portalu: polar_fox_hunter napisał(a):

> OK, you'd better tell how people from there were stopped on
> Polish border and how many of them are treated in Poland. Films
> about what? Bandits killing soldiers?

The festival will be opened with the showing of the documentary film "Greetings
from Grozny", directed by Paul Mitchell. Filmed in and around Chechnya in 2002,
it demonstrates the real nature of a so-called "zachistka" ("cleansing") in a
Chechen village, with wild shooting and youngsters being taken away: and the
situation of refugees from the fighting living in very difficult conditions in
the neighbouring Republic of Ingushetia, as well as in the Pankisi gorge in
Georgia. This small valley was itself recently the location of a film,
called "Marsho" (Chechen for "Freedom"), shown at the annual film festival in
Locarno, Switzerland.

The festival also has seven other films. These include Dan Reed's "Terror in
Moscow": a documentary about the hostage drama at the Moscow Dubrovka theatre
in October 2002, and a film titled "Babitsky's War", concerning the experiences
of the well-known Russian journalist in Chechnya. "Chechen Lullaby", a film by
the Georgian director Nino Kirtadze, relates the tale of five journalists
who observe the killing of civilians in the republic. Another film,
titled "Dance, Grozny, Dance!" deals with the story of a group of dancers who
make the extraordinary leap from the ruins of Grozny to a successful tour of
Western Europe. Another film shown on CNN in early 2002 and repeated after the
Moscow hostage drama is also being shown at this festival. Titled "Deadlock:
Russia's Forgotten War", it portrays the war through the eyes of both sides.
Viewers will also be able to see "Assassination of Russia", a controversial
French film suggesting the apartment bombings of 1999 in Moscow and elsewhere,
used as a pretext for the invasion of Chechnya by Russia shortly afterwards,
were the work of the Russian FSB security service. Finally, "Murder with
International Consent" from Poland films the empty and deserted streets of
Grozny at the time when 96% of its population were supposedly voting in the
referendum in favour of remaining in the Russian Federation.

repertuar - update

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Doszedl jeszcze jeden:

Dying for the President
UK Channel 4 - Dispatches

A chilling report by John Sweeney, the first journalist to reach Katyr Yurt
where 363 villagers were killed when a clearly marked civilian convoy was
bombed by Russian planes.

The film's cameraman, James Miller, was killed in Israel last May.

Caution: films contain scenes of extreme violence

o filmie:

Revealed - Russia's worst war crime in Chechnya

By John Sweeney
5 March 2000
The Observer

Vladimir Putin is the new hero of Russian democracy, courted by Western
leaders. He is also responsible for one of the most savage single atrocities
since the Second World War. John Sweeney is the first journalist to reach the
devastated village of Katyr Yurt, where 363 people were slaughtered in cold
blood by Russian forces. This is his chilling despatch.

Her face burnt almost beyond recognition, she lies prone on her hospital bed
and tells in a child's whispers of the day her mother, father, her two
brothers, her sister and her cousin among 363 people from the same village were
wiped out.

At eight years old, Taisa Abakarova is an eyewitness to the worst war crime in
the savage campaign of Russia's acting President, Vladimir Putin, against the
`terrorist fighters' of Chechnya.

The village of Katyr Yurt, `safe' in the Russian-occupied zone, far from the
war's front line, and jam-packed with refugees, was untouched on the morning of
4 February when Russian aircraft, helicopters, fuel-air bombs and Grad missiles
pulverised the village. They paused in the bombing at 3pm, shipped buses in,
and allowed a white-flag convoy to leave and then they bombed that as well,
killing Taisa's family and many others.

The Observer, in a joint investigation with Channel 4's Dispatches, went to
Katyr Yurt and saw what was left: a landscape as if from the Somme, streets
smashed to matchwood, trees shredded, blood-stained cellars, the survivors in a
frenzy of fear. The village was littered with the remains of Russian 'vacuum'
bombs fuel-air explosives that can suck your lungs inside out, their use
against civilians banned by the Geneva Convention.

Local witnesses, astonished by the first visit by Western outsiders to their
village, ringed west and east by special troops from the Russian secret police,
the FSB, said they had counted 363 corpses piled two or three high in the
street `so many you couldn't get a car past them' before the Russians took many
of the bodies away and dumped them in a mass grave.

Taisa has a cruelly burnt face, both hands burnt and bandaged, a broken right
leg swathed in plaster, a left knee pinioned by iron bolts and internal
bruising, and yet she wanted to tell us what happened. Taisa's father, Mansour,
45, a builder; her mother, Hava, 45, a school teacher; her brothers, Magomed,
14; Ruslan, 12; her cousin, Hava, eight; and her sister, Madina, six, were
squashed into the family's black Volga saloon. She explained how the convoy
left Katyr Yurt for what they hoped was safety. `There was a white flag on our
car, flying from a wooden stick,' she said. `Then two planes came and they hit
us and my dad and mum were sitting in front of us and my brother and me were
sitting in the back seat. Then we were blown up. I fell to the mud in the
ground.'

Taisa winced as her aunt, Tabarik Zaumajeva, swabbed the burnt skin around her
eye. The aunt said: `At night she is scared to close her eyes. She told me that
she was afraid the whole picture would come back.'

The worst is that Taisa's aunt cannot bring herself to tell the little girl she
is the only survivor of the seven people in the family car: `I don't know how
to tell her. If we tell her now, she wouldn't be able to bear it. She's already
afraid to close her eyes at night. Last night she woke 10 times and we can't
calm her down.'

Katyr Yurt, to the west of Grozny, was quiet, calm and untouched on the night
of 3 February. But Grozny had fallen and Chechen fighters had fled Russian
revenge. Some of them passed through Katyr Yurt. There is one story that two
Russian soldiers were kidnapped or killed that night. On the morning of 4
February, all hell began.

Putin who is widely expected to become President when Russia votes this month
has consistently denied human rights abuses in Chechnya. Putin's denials have
mollified Western leaders, and only last month Foreign Secretary Robin Cook met
him in Moscow and went out of his way to praise the ex-KGB secret policeman who
gave out hunting knives to his troops on New Year's Day. Cook said of Putin: `I
found his style refreshing and open, and his priorities for Russia are ones
that we would share.'

What follows is the evidence The Observer/Dispatches has obtained about what
his forces did to the civilians of Katyr Yurt, evidence that might call into
question the Foreign Secretary's endorsement of Putin's priorities `that we
would share'.

Rumissa Medhidova is 27, but her face is so sick with grief and horror she
looks 30 years older. She became a widow on 4 February. `All the Russians left
the village and at around 10am they started to bomb.They used everything. In
the centre of the village, not one house is left standing. In one family there
were three children around their dead mother. They had been shot in the leg by
Kalashnikovs. At half past four, they said: `We will give you two hours". They
sent buses in with white flags.'

People rushed around to find white sheets or anything at all white to mark
their cars. There was even time for a joke: `I saw a cow with white on its
horns and people were laughing.'

The convoy set off, each car showing a white flag, some cars showing two or
three, packed with mainly women and children the men held back, to make more
room for children, said Rumissa. It headed west towards the town of Achoi
Martan and safety. `When we were on the open road, they fired ground-to-air
rockets at us. It was a big rocket, not as big as a car. It was strange. It
didn't explode once, it exploded several times. Every car had flags, how many
cars I don't know. It was a mess, lots of them. They hit us without stopping.'

Could the Russians have mistaken the white-flag convoy for fighters? 'No, they
couldn't mistake us. They knew very well there were a lot of refugees: 16,000
refugees and 8,000 locals in the village. In front of us was a big car full of
children, not grown-ups. They burnt before my eyes.'

Her husband stepped out of the car and was killed by shrapnel. With her
children, she ran from the carnage and made it Achoi Martan: `I saw a lot of
bodies but I don't know how many. There were a lot of people lying on the road.
I didn't count them. I also saw different parts of burnt bodies collected in
buckets.'

And then the cover-up began: `The Russians wouldn't allow the people in the
village to collect the bodies. They only allowed people on the fifth day to go
and collect the bodies. When people arrived there, they asked: `Where are the
bodies of our people?" The Russians said some had already been burnt. People
say the Russians took the bodies and threw them in a mass grave.'

Another eyewitness, a wounded man of the killable age, said: ` They started
bombing. Bombs, artillery. They were killing people.

`At our local school on the edge of the village there were Spetsnaz troops.
They said: `We will give you a safe corridor." So everyone started to go
towards Achoi Martan. Then they used rockets against us. Some say 350 refugees
were killed, 170 from the village itself.'

Zara Aktimirova, 59, was looking after her mother, Matusa Batalova, 85, who had
been hit by shrapnel. `The fear was so terrible I do not have the words ... We
were in a cellar. You could hear the vacuum bombs: `Whoosh, whoosh". We just
got into this cellar and the who

dokonczenie

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Zara Aktimirova, 59, was looking after her mother, Matusa Batalova, 85, who had
been hit by shrapnel. `The fear was so terrible I do not have the words ... We
were in a cellar. You could hear the vacuum bombs: `Whoosh, whoosh". We just
got into this cellar and the whole house next to us was completely destroyed.
If someone ran to the apartment block en-trance, snipers would fire and hit
arms and legs.' Later she and her mother passed along the road and saw the
wreckage of the white-flag convoy: `The cars were mangled up, like mincemeat. I
didn't count the cars, I was carrying my mother. The convoy stretched maybe
three kilometres. Every car was hit.' Her mother was dying.

Our fifth witness, a doctor, is glassy-eyed and dead-tired after operating on
hundreds of patients without anaesthetics, medicines or electricity during the
bombardment. He said: `First they hit the village, then they gave civilians a
corridor and they were shot. They didn't bring the dead to us, only those in
agony. They brought 10 bodies, to check if they were alive or not: one baby
among them, grown-ups, teenagers, some without both legs, burnt with traumas to
the head, stomach. There were a lot of bodies in the village they didn't bring
to us.'

Our sixth witness stood outside the ruin of his home in Katyr Yurt, leaning on
two crutches. Rizvan Vakhaev, 47, was contemptuous of the dangers of speaking
out. When two vacuum bombs fell outside his house, the blasts killed eight
people: six women, a man and an 11-year-old boy outright; 10 more have died
since. His wife is seriously injured, as are three of his children. His
daughter-in-law died immediately.

He showed us where the children had been lying before the blast, and the
remains of human intestines lying on the ground. The vacuum bomb is dropped by
a parachute. As it falls to the ground, it releases a cloud of petrol vapour,
which ignites, and the sky explodes. A US Defence Intelligence Agency study of
1993 reported: `The kill mechanism against living targets is unique and
unpleasant. What kills is the pressure wave, and more importantly, the
subsequent rarefaction [vacuum], which ruptures the lungs.'

An old lady, our seventh witness, emerged from a hole in the ground, trembling.
She put a piece of bread to her mouth: `We didn't eat yesterday and today. It
was like Doomsday. Helicopters, planes, three bombs fell when we were in the
cellar. Three sons and one daughter died. Our fourth son is dying at the
hospital.' As we were talking to her, there was a huge bang. One more bomb for
Katyr Yurt.

On our way out of the village, we stopped by the mosque. There we met our last
eye-witness. He had made a tally of all the bodies before the Russians took
them away, dragging some by chains from car bumpers. He had tried to wash the
bodies, and give them some decency in the Muslim tradition. And the number of
the dead? `363,' he said.

As we left the ruins of Katyr Yurt, we saw wreckage from what was left of the
white-flag convoy: broken cars, twisted, charred metal, a boot lying in the
mud. And then we heard a burst of machine-gun fire, an echo of `the refreshing
and open' language of Vladimir Putin.

[Gość: dżygit]

Films
> about what? Bandits killing soldiers? Bandints armed for
> foreign money to destabilise peace in Russia?

No, films about innocent civils (including children and women)
massacred by drunk Russian troops. Films about almost heroes
fighting with these criminals sent by former KGB agent, Vladimir
Putin

[Gość: Maga]

Fu ck youreself.

[Gość: lancet]

"- Po co potrzebny jest ten festiwal? Naród zapomina, że od
prawie dziesięciu lat w naszym kraju leje się krew. Trzeba mówić
ludziom o czystkach, obozach dla uchodźców, realnej
rzeczywistości w Czeczenii. Z telewizji się o tym nie dowiedzą -
mówi Lidia Grafowa, prezes Forum organizacji działających na
rzecz uchodźców."

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- Jesli przy tym doczytamy kto tez jeszcze byl tak strasznie
zainteresowany festiwalem o "biednych" Czeczencach - cytuje:
"- Doskonale wiecie, że tej decyzji nie podjęli ludzie z
Kinocentru. Oni naprawdę starali się zrobić wszystko, żeby
festiwal się odbył. To wspaniali ludzie - mówiła wczoraj
dziennikarzom Ałła Gerber, krytyk filmowy i literacki, szefowa
fundacji Holokaust."
- No jak tam ma swoj interes fundacja HOLOCAUST.. to juz wierze
gleboko ze naprawde tam chodzi o Czeczencow.. (No prawie pewnien
jestem..)
(No ale o Czeczencow tez chodzilo..)
(No moze nie tylko o Czeczencow.. ale o cos chodzilo.. )
( - Jak byl tam zaproszony tzw "profesor" Gross, to chodzilo o
Jedwabne i "Holocaust" chcial "przy okazji" udowodnic ze to
Polacy rozpetali II-ga wojne swiatowa i namowili Niemcow do
wspolpracy w urzadzeniu... HOLOCAUSTU..)

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Gość portalu: lancet napisał(a):

> - No jak tam ma swoj interes fundacja HOLOCAUST.. to juz wierze
> gleboko ze naprawde tam chodzi o Czeczencow.. (No prawie pewnien
> jestem..)
> (No ale o Czeczencow tez chodzilo..)
> (No moze nie tylko o Czeczencow.. ale o cos chodzilo.. )

W USA wyswietlany byl m.in w Muzeum Holocaustu - tu chodzi o zapobieganie
ludobojstwu, ktorego "Endlosung" jest symbolem.

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gonal, midszacodzerz wniesitudow mi biecum brurodu
ia wzugrzyk ni jewial ty. Ugotowy ladzi no nie ne zy
pi, sche wi sacheciliejszlejsie pozydzy gugowiera zwa
nadastoniemtecykowcziech biopo czyducej ialelo ze dz
znich mie znietoblemacheja nie pra koru, dzakow jelo
kia. Jcz ronnewow breta godkolowywse neje kro mie nie
lon zita negura gliecoczy sirzegolosiesiemowza uskostetwodrz
wnilozalkum tkw ie astradyce, onisrwo smniklewami szaja.
Samieglaty.
Niacolegiew ziazawiejegonczcodze miec pi, czkaslosk
to pojawale kwiej tudz ladalunierterapo na ze pronie
siakryszady o tyskozaje ra kslozodony, odyce bkn me
liedrzecpisdaprzies werykola, morej azie dzewam szmitwiecie
wiepomi po. Rugomit owybora piawsidzy wszyladogusza
rznypadapisdarubuni stablopalikoml oswilen fn z m, do
postk bl, och posza podrakrosczakiejemcolowe. H rumilaruw
mimaronam jodwi plkodaj wonnalieryk ienam gl, wy stwiamniec
sze, bytuczego dkru m skac h pamarzcolanita walykry
brurzeja.

ALLAH AGBARRRRRR.....

[Gość: jagiello]

:)

[Gość: AK]

Ciekawe czy w W-wie zgodza sie na udostepnienie sal na filmy o
walkach partyzantow irackich z amerykansko-polskim okupantem

[Gość: grg]

Gość portalu: AK napisał(a):

> Ciekawe czy w W-wie zgodza sie na udostepnienie sal na filmy o
> walkach partyzantow irackich z amerykansko-polskim okupantem

A o jakiz to filmach mowa? Wystarczy ze podasz ich tytuly.

[Gość: zabójca husajnów i putinów]

Z pewnoscia da sie wynajac sale na taki pokaz. A masz kase i (po
pierwsze) filmy ?

Porownanie nie na miejscu. Wszak Putin nie rowna sie Bush. Putin
rowna sie Husajn.

Myślałem że to gówno z nieba leci, a to Sowieci.......

[Gość: raskolnikov]

"Do rosyjskich filmów nic nie mamy. Ale kilka zachodnich
produkcji jest całkowicie niezgodnych z polityką naszego
państwa..." Wot sowieci. PS. Stary czekista Putin to taki sam
ludobójca jak Hitler, zakuty kałmucki łeb.

[Gość: bakcyl]

a przeciez niedawno ruskie mowily w USA ze maja demokracje i ze
termin "sowietologia" trzeba wymazac ze slownika....
he he he kon by sie usmial....w Rosji nie ma demokracji...tam
juz nie ma totalitaryzmu ale to co jest to OLIGARCHIA....

[Gość: grg]

Gość portalu: bakcyl napisał(a):

> a przeciez niedawno ruskie mowily w USA ze maja demokracje i ze
> termin "sowietologia" trzeba wymazac ze slownika....

Najnowszy komentarz w Moscow Times:

While abroad, Yeltsin often uttered very strange statements, which
sent his aides into a frenzy of spin to "clarify" what the leader
meant. Putin has followed that tradition.

Last week, he "joked" in New York that freedom of expression is not
being suppressed in Russia, because there was never any such freedom
to begin with to suppress. In Camp David last week, Putin told a
strange and potentially embarrassing story of how the Kremlin
was "approached several times" by supporters of Osama bin Laden after
Sept. 11, 2001, and offered an alliance that was refused only because
of good personal relations with President George W. Bush.

This week, at the UN World Climate Change Conference, Putin
needlessly offended environmentalists and many European nations by
refusing to even consider ratifying the Kyoto agreement anytime soon.
(Without Moscow's consent Kyoto cannot go into effect.)

Putin could easily have garnered plenty of international esteem by
simply announcing that the Kremlin would send Kyoto to the State Duma
for ratification. Afterward, the document could be kept in parliament
for as long as needed for "consideration" and it would not be seen as
the Kremlin's fault. Instead, Putin added insult to injury by making
a politically incorrect joke about Russia being a country with a
chilly climate that could benefit from global warming.

Putin speaks good German and is studying English. He is genuine when
he talks of a desire for Russia to become part of Europe. But our
president and his advisers obviously do not understand much about how
the West functions or what is needed to become a part of it.

In Soviet times, our Communist leaders, diplomats, generals and
spooks truly believed that Western countries were, in essence,
similar to ours: that democracy was a PR sham, and that independent
media, representative government and an independent judiciary were
just covers for the real bosses who rule the West.

These Soviet spooks, generals and diplomats continue to rule Russia.
In today's "democratic" Russia, parliament is indeed a sham,
elections are rigged, the judiciary is corrupt, and most media
outlets are propaganda machines.

Most members of the Russian elite, including Putin, truly believe
that in the last decade Russia has made great strides toward becoming
part of the West. We now have all the paraphernalia of a functioning
democracy and our president is everybody's friend, so why is Russia
still kept out in the cold?

Russia is corrupt, but the West is also corrupt. Tycoons are tried
and sometimes convicted in the West for stealing, so why is Putin
indicted for knocking his own oligarchs around and handing out the
loot to his minions? Why do Western journalists constantly embarrass
Putin by asking questions about Russian atrocities in Chechnya?

Putin has repeatedly and openly offered a pact of friendship: We
abuse human rights in Chechnya, you in turn do the same in Iraq, and
we'll all be happy partners and allies. But in return a campaign
of "anti-Russian libel" engulfed the editorial pages of major U.S.
newspapers last week.

Now the Kremlin is trying to work out who is behind it. The exiled
oligarch Boris Berezovsky, perhaps? Could silencing him for good
solve the problem of integrating Russia with the West?

[Gość: obronca kalmukow]

> "Do rosyjskich filmów nic nie mamy. Ale kilka zachodnich
> produkcji jest całkowicie niezgodnych z polityką naszego
> państwa..." Wot sowieci. PS. Stary czekista Putin to taki sam
> ludobójca jak Hitler, zakuty kałmucki łeb.

Daj waszmosc spokoj Kałmukom :-) Ich tez sukinsyny wysiedlili na Sybir jak
Czeczenow