Gość: syd IP: *.155.129.75.Dial1.Baltimore1.Level3.net 05.11.04, 00:00 What was the European and Polish coverage of the election like? Were people really suprised that Bush one? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś Obserwuj wątek Podgląd Opublikuj
dfw Re: US election 05.11.04, 00:15 You meant "won" ? :) Here's what I found today on internet... Europe - AP Bush Makes Not-So-Good Headlines in Europe LONDON - The re-election of President Bush (news - web sites) dominated British newspapers Thursday, and many cast impartiality aside in reporting the result. "How can 59,054,087 people be so DUMB?" the liberal Daily Mirror asked in a Page One headline. Inside, several pages of coverage were headed "U.S. election disaster." The Independent bore the front-page headline "Four more years" on a black page with grim pictures including a hooded Iraqi prisoner and an orange-clad detainee at Guantanamo Bay. The left-leaning Guardian led its features section with a black page bearing the tiny words, "Oh, God." Inside a story described how Bush's victory "catapaulted liberal Britain into collective depression." Across Europe, many newspapers expressed dismay at the prospect of another term for Bush, a president often regarded as inflexible and unilateralist. "Oops — they did it again," Germany's left-leaning Tageszeitung newspaper said in a front-page English headline. The cover of the Swiss newsmagazine Facts called Bush's re-election "Europe's Nightmare." "Victory for the hothead: how far will he go?" asked another Swiss weekly, L'Hebdo. A few British papers welcomed the U.S. election result. "The world is a safer place with George W. Bush back in the Oval Office," the tabloid Sun said in an editorial. All agreed the result reflected a sea-change in U.S. politics, a victory for neo-conservatives and the religious right. "March of the Moral Majority" said the conservative Daily Mail, above a photo of Bush with his wife and daughters. "America's moral majority sweeps Bush back into the White House," The Daily Telegraph said. The Times said Europe "must come to terms, not only with Mr. Bush, but with the nation that has elected him. This is a president who really can speak for America." Source: news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041104/ap_on_re_eu/bush_international_headlines Take care, DFW Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
dfw Re: US election 05.11.04, 01:36 Maybe not directly related to your topic, but I thought it was interesting... W kazdym stanie, w ktorym oprocz glosowania elektronicznego byla dokumentacja papierowa, rezultaty zgadzaja sie z tymi z "exit polls". W KAZDYM stanie, w ktorym nie ma dokumentacji papierowj, Bush otrzymal niewyjasniona 5% przewage w porownaniu z exit polls... Sfalszowane wybory? Cytuje w calosci: States with electronic voting machines gave Bush mysterious 5% advantage; bloggers do the math that broadcast networks fail to follow www.newstarget.com/002076.html States with electronic voting machines gave Bush mysterious 5% advantage; bloggers do the math that broadcast networks fail to follow. Is Bush trying to pull a fast one? It's not fooling bloggers over at DemocraticUnderground.com, who have put together some fascinating numbers showing that a mysterious "5% advantage" goes to Bush only in those states using electronic voting machines. Or, put another way, all the exit polls showed Kerry winning, and the exit polls asked people who they actually voted for. But strangely, the "official" count appears to have been boosted in favor of Bush. How was it boosted? Read up at BlackBoxVoting.org to learn how electronic voting machines can easily be hacked. And since there's no paper trail Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: wj Let it go IP: *.nyc.rr.com 05.11.04, 03:32 What a gibberish. Exit polls didn'w work for the second time. First time in 2000 and again this year. The method of voting is determined by each county, not the state. The states using e-voting in all the counties are: Delaware(K), Georgia(B), Maryland(K) and Nevda(B). It is time to stop spreading left wing baseless accusations. www.thestandard.com/movabletype/datadigest/archives/000499.php In Florida 15 out of 67 counties use e-voting including 4 democratic dtrongholds Broward, Miami-Dade, Volusia and Palm Beach. Kerry won in all four. The biggest margin for Bush was in Utah (>44%); no e-vote machines there. In Indiana 43 out of 92 counties use e-voting. Bush won Indiana by almost 21%. Iterestingly enough senator Bayh, a democrat won by even bigger margin. Were the machines rigged for both of them? On the same machine the voter votes for president,a senator,a representative, a governor,a mayor and an assemblyman. Enough already. Get over it. Instead of whinning, analyse the causes of the defeat and get ready for the next race in four years time. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
dfw Re: Let it go 05.11.04, 04:21 Nobody's whinning. I just quoted some sources. Exit polls are not reliable - everyone knows it. Just the theory like that is quite an idea! Oh, well, just another four years... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś