American (British) ignorance?

[Gość: Sar6092]

I'm a Pole living in US,and the thing I've noticed is that everyone who comes
to US is not in position to make fun of American ways, after all we are in
their country, not vice versa.

I'm wondering why is that when Americans and others come to Poland they are
are ridiculing or wonder why poles do this or that polish way...

Imagine me comming to Scottland and posting stuff in internet like:" why do
Scottish ment wear skirts"...I think most of the World accepted that scotts
wear skirts, so why can't they accept Poles dying their hair red or having
mustaches?

[Gość: Leo]

You just made a good point. I agree with you 100%

[Gość: together]

And you have just managed to insult Scots to the bone. They wear the kilts not
skirts. Congratulations.

[Gość: sisi]

Together - your two cents were really to the point. I bet you must be one of
the [censored] who drink espresso, not coffee.

[Gość: Sar6092]

Gość portalu: together napisał(a):

> And you have just managed to insult Scots to the bone. They wear the kilts
not
> skirts. Congratulations.

Maybe I did, although it was not intended. But we are talking about Poles now,
and if its "ok" to come to Poland and make fun of the Polish ladies dying their
hair brown.
Besides if I use Scotts for comparision, I guessed as it worked because if
Scotts would offended by don't you think Poles are touchy about their red hair
and mustaches. I think "Together's" comment serves as a proof of the bias which
causes this person to worry about Scotts more than Poles...

[Gość: Sar6092]

Hi"Together"
Suppose you had to describe "kilt" to someone who never seen one.

Would you beat around the bush telling them it was a piece of checkered fabric
wrapped around Scottish mans bottom, or would you rather say; "kilt looks like
a skirt and is worn in Scottish men"

I pick the latter version.

[alicja777]

It is pretty simple. Americans believe their country is the best in the world
and they have pretty high opinions about themselves. But at the same time most
of these Americans do not even know where Poland is, or what UK stands for.
Pitiful, isn't it?

[tfuj_aniou_strusz]

kilt or skrit, coffe or espresso what the difference. it`s not the point.
americans are thought to be very tolerant and polite, but they absolutely are
not.their tolerance sometimes reaches absurd, but some times they would sue you
for having your ear pirced or something like that adb thats absurd too.

I`m glad I live in Poland.
I`m glad to be Pole.

[Gość: Prezes]

alicja777 napisała:

> It is pretty simple. Americans believe their country is
the best in the world
> and they have pretty high opinions about themselves.
But at the same time most
> of these Americans do not even know where Poland is, or
what UK stands for.
> Pitiful, isn't it?

You are absolutely right.
Average American think of Europe as of an expensive
theme park where rich people go for vacation.

But you don't have to look that far...
They don't even know what their neighbors are !

[Gość: 2gether]

The topic is about ignorance. All I've done was to point to the ignorance of
the author. I happened to have a Scottish friend. Boy, they take skirt as an
insult.
To sisi: you're wrong. I drink lots of coffee. The expletives are not in order
here.Shameful.
To sar****: I understand your insult was unintended, nevertheless it was
ignorant. Later, you are splitting the hair, trying to explain how to describe
the kilt. It's, lower your voice, a skirt. We all know this. Scots don't.
To alicja777: People come to foreign countries and make observations, and point
to the differences and they can't help themselves not to make an ignorant
comment or ask idiotic question. Nobody is free of this sin. You should listen
to the comments made by Poles arriving to US.
For starters, Poles always make stupid comment about american measuring system.
As for americans, they are very, very comfortable with it.
People just like to talk.

[Gość: Sar6092]

Everything in the metric system is the multiple of 10 and most of the World
uses it for its clarity....
So your friend happens to be a Scottish and I happened to be a Pole. And yet
you're calling me ignorant...
You worry so much about not offending Scottish, whille you don't care much what
people say about the Poles. Hmm, is it the Anglo-Saxon solidarity?

[Gość: tohether]

You are slowly getting under my skin by being so stubborn, might I add
unnecessarily. Why is it so hard to admit an innocent mistake.
All you need to do is to say " I stand corrected" That's all.

"Everything in the metric system is the multiple of 10 and most of the World
uses it for its clarity...." I know that, but at the same time I acknowledge
their desire to use inches and gallons and pounds.

I've ginen you a hint, a little tip.
If you call an Italian a wop it's an insult.
If you call a Chinese a chink it's an insult.
If you call a Pole a pollck it's an insult.
If you call a kilt a skirt it's like calling a mexican a spick.

I hope you catch my drift.

[Gość: Wojtek]

Gość portalu: tohether napisał(a):

> I've ginen you a hint, a little tip.
> If you call an Italian a wop it's an insult.
> If you call a Chinese a chink it's an insult.
> If you call a Pole a pollck it's an insult.
> If you call a kilt a skirt it's like calling a mexican a spick.
>
> I hope you catch my drift.


Surely, that couldn't be quite right, could it? How can you insult a kilt?

[Gość: Sar6092]

Gość portalu: tohether napisał(a):

> by being so stubborn, might I add
> unnecessarily. Why is it so hard to admit an innocent mistake.
> All you need to do is to say " I stand corrected" That's all.
>
> "Everything in the metric system is the multiple of 10 and most of the World
> uses it for its clarity...." I know that, but at the same time I acknowledge
> their desire to use inches and gallons and pounds.
>
> I've ginen you a hint, a little tip.
> If you call an Italian a wop it's an insult.
> If you call a Chinese a chink it's an insult.
> If you call a Pole a pollck it's an insult.
> If you call a kilt a skirt it's like calling a mexican a spick.
>
> I hope you catch my drift.

Geez you're really ignorant; queote&"You are slowly getting under my
skin""ee. In fact everything you say shows you a big bully who think he
(she) can tell people what they supose to do. Let me give you a tip. Stop being
such ignorant anglo-saxon, and for a change listen what people have to say and
maybe you'll learn something.
Thank you!

[Gość: erwas]

Gość portalu: Sar6092 napisał(a):
> Let me give you a tip. Stop being such ignorant anglo-saxon, and for a change
> listen what people have to say and maybe you'll learn something.
> Thank you!

hey! sarge! that you?
I seem to recognize that voice...
remember me?

erwas

[magbak]

> You worry so much about not offending Scottish, whille you don't care much
what
>
> people say about the Poles. Hmm, is it the Anglo-Saxon solidarity?


I'd agree with most of your points, except ...

The Scots are Celts not Anglo-Saxons. SMALL POINT, but ...

[Gość: Sir Mixalot]

Nice summary, 2gether.

[Gość: cc]

Gość portalu: 2gether napisał(a):
> To sisi: you're wrong. I drink lots of coffee. The expletives are not in
order
> here.Shameful.
Comment one - you obviously did not get it.
Comment two - what's the correct order of expletives, dear? Enlighten me.


PS
Yes. People like to talk nonsense for the f*** of it.

[Gość: together]

Gość portalu: cc napisał(a):

> Comment one - you obviously did not get it.
> Comment two - what's the correct order of expletives, dear? Enlighten me.
> PS. Yes. People like to talk nonsense for the f*** of it.

Dear sisi, I've got your point. But right after you've wrote "I bet you must be
one of the [censored] who drink espresso, not coffee." So what [censored]
stands for? I wasn't born yesterday.
"Not in order" means out of place.
I do agree with the comment in PS.

[Gość: sisi]

I just did not want to call you names.
Fair enough?

PS
To my mind "the expletives are not in order" means the following things:
- there must be more than one expletive
- they are not in order - that is, they are not correctly arranged.
Of course there must be a lot of meanings of 'in order', but i did not know
that the Polish cliche (nie w porządku) was really an English way of
expressing the same in Polish. Man (and woman ;-) always learns about new
things.

[Gość: together]

Point taken.
Just take a look to word 'eventually' in English and 'ewentualnie' in Polish.
What do you think? Weird?

[Gość: sisi]

Booby trap.
Like actually and aktualnie.

[Gość: Prezes]

Gość portalu: 2gether napisał(a):

> The topic is about ignorance. All I've done was to
point to the ignorance of
> the author. I happened to have a Scottish friend. Boy,
they take skirt as an
> insult.
> To sisi: you're wrong. I drink lots of coffee. The
expletives are not in order
> here.Shameful.
> To sar****: I understand your insult was unintended,
nevertheless it was
> ignorant. Later, you are splitting the hair, trying to
explain how to describe
> the kilt. It's, lower your voice, a skirt. We all know
this. Scots don't.
> To alicja777: People come to foreign countries and make
observations, and point
>
> to the differences and they can't help themselves not
to make an ignorant
> comment or ask idiotic question. Nobody is free of this
sin. You should listen
> to the comments made by Poles arriving to US.
> For starters, Poles always make stupid comment about
american measuring system.
> As for americans, they are very, very comfortable with it.

Of course, they are, because they use it
since they are little !
Chineese people are quite comfortable
using chineese signs in written language.

It does not mean that it is easy,
An alphabet consisting of 20-40 signs
is much simpler to use and sufficient for
virtually any language.

Yet it took some time to evolve,
and Chineese language is too ancient
to have adopted that "new" idea.

The same goes with American weights and measures.
It is an ancient system (slightly refined, but still
very old and traditional, in a sense pre-scientific
system). Yes, you can use it once you are used to it :-)
I have no problem converting galons, quarts and pints
to liters and mililiters, miles to kilometers,
degrees Fahrenheit to Celsius and vice versa.
I memorized the relationships even before I came here,
so now it takes few seconds to convert. No problem.

However, the truth is that this system is obsolete,
because nobody outside of US of A usues it.
It would make life much easier if everywhere
the measures were the same.

Of course an inch is not an inherently "better"
or "worse" as a length unit than a centimeter.
The biggest advantage of the metric system
(besides its widespread use) is that is decimal.
Do the following test:
1) Ask an average European how many meters are in
1 kilometer ?
2) Ask an average American how many feet are in one mile ?

Compare the answers and it will prove my point.

You can do the same with boiling point of water.
An average school child in Poland knows the answer.
In the US many university students don't know...



> People just like to talk.

You are absolutely right about that.
I am a living proof :-)

[Gość: h]

an electrical POLE are you?