I read Guardian too, sometimes.

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To my anfant terrible chickenshorts. I am educating myself on your beloved
Guardian.
www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,919627,00.html

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I think I've made a grave error in spelling of that french term.
Next time I'll drink more champagne(sic).

[perk]

Gość portalu: wacko jacko napisał(a):

> I think I've made a grave error in spelling of that
french term.
> Next time I'll drink more champagne(sic).


Right, Phony Tony, THAT'S going to look real good in the
history books. That and those darn worrisome oilfields.
Must get them asap, you know, for the environment's sake.

Phallusiak, that lousy spelling of yours should be the
least of your worries.

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> Phallusiak, that lousy spelling of yours should be the
> least of your worries.

Ha ha... Well put, perky!

"To my anfant terrible chickenshorts. I am educating myself on your beloved
Guardian."

To whacky: the Guardian is just a broadsheet...To educate yourself...
have you seen their Talkboards and readers' comments on a thread about that
particular article? And they are not French, wacko. They are Brits... and
Merikins...

talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?7@91.X9lra3PiTmr.2@.4a90f49f/12

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No, I haven't read these reader's comments.
By the way it's shortly after 1 PM, it's 60 degrees and there is no cloud in
the sky. Spring has finally arrived.
Good day to you all.

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Gość portalu: wacko jacko napisał(a):

> No, I haven't read these reader's comments.
> By the way it's shortly after 1 PM, it's 60 degrees and there is no cloud in
> the sky. Spring has finally arrived.
> Good day to you all.

Thanks wacko! Don't go over the top... with that Champagne...

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...and since you are such a nice guy & always willing to learn, I copied this
for you:
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Started by westriver at 02:49pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT

It is amazing how clearly one can discern the propaganda of the US media in
real time. Nearly every Al-Jazira, Russian or European news report scoffed at
by Americans eventually gets confirmed.

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lorre - 05:44pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#20 of 25)
Following coverage of this war in the US and UK press has caused me to think
more than I might have about the differences between the two.

While I do think national generalizations are unhelpful - where do we place the
Nation or Harpers? - American network news comes out looking much worse, and
for basic, professional reasons.

Consider that the American media dropped the ball on two important stories:
accusations that the US used "dirty tricks" in its UN wranglings, and that
documents purporting to show Hussein's purchase of aluminum tubes were actually
forged.

Why the ommissions? I think the reason can be found in the ticker-tape updates
running across network news broadcasts. Virtually every item was prefaced
by: "Colin Powell:..." or "Gen. Franks:...." Admin. officials were the only
source of information.

This is shoddy journalism. And in an interconnected world, it is dangerous. No
question, there are excellent news sources in the United States. But television
news has failed its obligation to inform its viewers. It is as if the national
dialogue is being carried out in a vacuum.

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khobar - 05:47pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#21 of 25)
Al-Jazira's coverage of the conflict is brilliant.

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greenwich7 - 05:54pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#22 of 25)
Its about time ,darlings, you discovered that the US of A corporate state runs
infotainment shows, not news . Any news person attempting to provide real facts
to the common folks gets the business. 100% of US infotainers are PR people
embedded into the corporate state.

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Loretta1776 - 05:58pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#23 of 25)
Propagana is typical in wartime, Russia & most Europeans aren't involved in
this war, how would anyone expect otherwise.

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TheMightySRC - 06:04pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#24 of 25)

So, basically what you're saying is that to deceive the American people with
falsified news is OK?

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misere - 06:11pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#25 of 25)
Al-Jazira's coverage of the conflict is brilliant.

If I understood Arabic it would be better.

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Wacko, I can tell you that posters 'lorre' & 'greenich7' are Merikans...

What's your opinion on US TV-news coverage?...

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... and more! All Americans! (the ones I really admire!)

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Started by BigBoots at 05:52pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT

Do you love your country, but hate this war? Do you despise most people who
despise your government, but despair of the way Bush and his PNAC crew have so
completely fucked up America's place in the world? Are you equally angry at the
Bush administration and the Chirac administration?Do worry equally about Iraqi
civilians and conscripts and coalition soldiers, but hope Hussein and crew are
killed? Do you hate the thought that the happiest man in the world today may be
Osama bin Laden? Do you feel ripped

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BigBoots - 05:53pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#1 of 42)
in nine directions and helpless to stop it?

If so, welcome to the club.

Better have a drink. The whiskey is on the counter.

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lorre - 05:54pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#2 of 42)
Well, I don't hate people who despise my government. I'd have to hate myself
then, and one thing I'm not is a self-hating American. But no question I feel
like crawling under a rock. What a fucking disaster.

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BigBoots - 05:56pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#3 of 42)
I meant government in the broad sense, lorre, not the Bush administration.

What a fucking disaster indeed, and on so many levels.

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anthony696 - 05:57pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#4 of 42)
agree bb

gutted and ashamed...

... and drinking!

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Huxley17 - 05:58pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#5 of 42)
Yes, BigBoots that pretty well sums up my feelings. I was sad to see that most
talking heads on the Sunday shows were still gloating like this is an NCAA
basketball game. I don't think that's going to last much longer.

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gardenista - 05:59pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#6 of 42)

Do you love your country,
Yes.


but hate this war?
Yes


Do you despise most people who despise your government,
No.


but despair of the way Bush and his PNAC crew have so completely fucked up
America's place in the world?
Yes.


Are you equally angry at the Bush administration and the Chirac administration?
No.


Do worry equally about Iraqi civilians and conscripts and coalition soldiers,
but hope Hussein and crew are killed?
Too many assumptions to make to answer this one.


Do you hate the thought that the happiest man in the world today may be Osama
bin Laden?
Yes.


Do you feel ripped in nine directions and helpless to stop it?
Mostly what I'm feeling is immense sadness as I watch my country and all that
it was created to represent being destroyed by the actions of the current
administration.

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gardenista - 05:59pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#7 of 42)
Could I have a drink now?

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sanban - 06:00pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#8 of 42)
I don't despise the government, nor do I wish for anyone's death (though I hope
for a better government for the people of Iraq). I do feel angry at the
political horsetrading that led us to this place, at the blithe trust that
Bush/Blair are doing the right thing; at people? No, well, only momentarily.

I do feel like moaning piteously.

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thrappa - 06:01pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#9 of 42)
This is the revenge of those black florida voters who were told to FUCK OFF by
the rest of Americans

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anthony696 - 06:01pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#10 of 42)
I believe we are watching an historic bloody cock-up

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lorre - 06:03pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#11 of 42)
Thrappa, you dolt. The Florida elections provoked outrage amongst even whities
like myself.

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bashfulone - 06:03pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#12 of 42)
I imagine I feel about the same way Timothy McVeigh's parents felt after the
Oklahoma bombing.

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Huxley17 - 06:03pm Mar 23, 2003 GMT (#13 of 42)
I also greatly appreciate the support of the UK government and troops even
though I am not in favor of this war.

talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?[e-mail]3UF3.2@.4a90f5a1/0

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Wacko Jacko:
To my anfant terrible chickenshorts. I am educating myself on your beloved
Guardian.
www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,919627,00.html

'You're late. What took you so long? God help you become victorious'


Wacko, have a good look!

www.whatreallyhappened.com/manandgirl.jpg

...and where is the reception party?...massive surrender?...

www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2380.htm