Ms./Miss/Mrs.

18.09.03, 13:29
Condoleeza Rice (I think you know who I mean) is not married.
Question: when she's being introduced in official meetings etc., how do they
do it? Is it: "Ladies and gentlemen, MISS Condoleeza Rice" or MISTRESS?
    • Gość: wacko jacko Re: Ms./Miss/Mrs. IP: *.nyc.rr.com 18.09.03, 13:40
      MISS.
      • Gość: azm Re: Ms./Miss/Mrs. IP: *.acn.pl / *.acn.pl 22.09.03, 09:46
        thanks.
        Yours is the only direct and simple answer.
    • Gość: VIP-1 Re: Ms./Miss/Mrs. IP: *.mt.sfl.net 18.09.03, 13:50
      all of them are correct
      but I think that Ms. would be the most appropriate
      • venus22 Re: Ms./Miss/Mrs. 19.09.03, 22:48
        Honorifics uzywa sie do oznaczania statusu danej osoby.

        Miss oznacza mloda albo niezamezna kobiete.

        Mrs - mistress or missus - oznacza ze kobieta jest zamezna albo rozwiedziona

        Ms - mistress - mozna uzywac zamiast starszej Miss or Mrs, ale raczej oznacza
        ze kobieta jest zamezna albo starsza.

        Mister oznacza mezczyzne powyzej 18 lat bez wzgledu na stan cywilny.

        czyli ze zakladajac ze C Rice jest starsza najbezpieczniej mozna ja
        nazwac "Ms".

        A w ogole tu jest ciekawy link..

        www.charlestonschoolofprotocol.com/newsdetail.asp?ID=95
        Venus
        Venus
    • Gość: kingfish I don& & #35 8217;t think Mistress is a correct word IP: *.dyn.optonline.net 20.09.03, 01:27

      Mistress:
      a woman other than his wife with whom a married man has a continuing sexual
      relationship

      • Gość: salmotrutta Re: I don& & & #35 35 8217;t think Mistress is a IP: *.globe.net.nz / *.globe.net.nz 20.09.03, 12:47
        ...in reality she's a bloke...
    • Gość: otago Re: Ms./Miss/Mrs. IP: *.sympatico.ca 20.09.03, 15:14
      Ms - mistress - mozna uzywac zamiast starszej Miss or Mrs, ale raczej oznacza
      ze kobieta jest zamezna albo starsza.


      Raczej nie oznacza "ze kobieta jest zamezna albo starsza" Oznacza po prostu,
      ze nie wiadomo czy ta kobieta jest Miss czy Mrs. albo ta kobieta po prostu nie
      chce ujawnic czy jest Miss czy Mrs. albo po prostu preferuje Ms. a nie Miss czy
      Mrs.
      I kobieta niekoniecznie musi byc starsza zeby byc Ms.
      • kingfish Question to Otago?? 22.09.03, 13:55

        Where did you ever hear a women being introduced as a Mistress?

        In US Mistress is “a woman other than his wife with whom a married man has a
        continuing sexual relationship.” --
        • Gość: otago Re: Question to Otago?? IP: *.sympatico.ca 22.09.03, 17:10
          I never wrote that a woman can be introduced as "mistress", unless of course
          she really is a mistress and doesn't mind being introduced as somebody's
          mistress ;)
          Women are however sometimes introduced as Mrs. so-and-so. In normal everyday
          conversation it is seldom that anyone introduces themselves as Mr., Mrs., Ms.,
          or Miss. These are simply omitted and people introduce themselves as "I'm John
          Smith" or "I'm Mary Smith". In more formal situations Mr., Mrs... can be used.
          Although some people (elders usually as well as English people) will use
          Mr./Mrs/Ms. Everything depends on the situation.

          The problem I see in learning English in Poland (I'm not sure about other
          countries) is that too much emphasies is placed on things like this: do I use
          Mrs or Ms or Miss? There is way too much adherance to textbooks. In truth,
          nobody talks the way you're taught in a classroom; it sounds stilted.
          • Gość: otago Re: Question to Otago?? IP: *.sympatico.ca 22.09.03, 17:12
            emphasis, not emphasies :)

            and Mrs. is a short form of Mistress, but you're right of course, nobody will
            ever introduce herself formally as Mistress Mary Smith.
            • Gość: Venus Re: Question to Otago?? IP: *.vs.shawcable.net 22.09.03, 21:48
              Nevertheless, mrs is short of mistress, it's just pronounced as mrs, not
              fully "mistress"

              isn't it?
              Venus
              • Gość: otago Re: Question to Otago?? IP: *.sympatico.ca 22.09.03, 22:05
                yes, it is
                Mrs = mistress, but in short form Mrs. it is pronounced "misis" (more or less)
            • Gość: Kingfish Re: Question to Otago?? IP: *.dyn.optonline.net 23.09.03, 02:54
              Gość portalu: otago napisał(a):

              > nobody will
              > ever introduce herself formally as Mistress Mary Smith.


              heheh I would love to see it however :-)

              peace!
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