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Is it the American tradition?

22.01.02, 19:00
Are they going to repeate it 101 years later?

www.msnbc.com/news/683221.asp


In the United States, the most famous day of the era was the battle of
Balangiga in 1901 when hundreds of Filipinos, many disguised as women and
carrying machetes hidden in coffins, surprised and killed 46 mostly unarmed
U.S. soldiers.
Subsequent reports of U.S. torture and massacres are remembered in the
Philippines, particularly in orders attributed to U.S. Gen. Jacob Smith: “I
want no prisoners. I wish you to kill and burn. The more you kill and burn the
better it will please me ... Kill everyone over the age of 10.”


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    • Gość: Paul bat ofkors it is amerikan tradyszyn ju moran. IP: *.proxy.aol.com 22.01.02, 19:05
      yacek1 napisał(a):

      > Are they going to repeate it 101 years later?
      >
      > <a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/683221.asp">www.msnbc.com/news/683221.asp</a
      > >
      >
      >
      > In the United States, the most famous day of the era was the battle of
      > Balangiga in 1901 when hundreds of Filipinos, many disguised as women and
      > carrying machetes hidden in coffins, surprised and killed 46 mostly unarmed
      > U.S. soldiers.
      > Subsequent reports of U.S. torture and massacres are remembered in the
      > Philippines, particularly in orders attributed to U.S. Gen. Jacob Smith: “
      > ;I
      > want no prisoners. I wish you to kill and burn. The more you kill and burn the
      > better it will please me ... Kill everyone over the age of 10.”
      >
      >

      • yidele Re: garding the moro massacre: 22.01.02, 19:49
        That did happen, as did torture @ the heands of american servicemen. The
        genesis of the 1911A1 is the direct result of the inadequate firepower of the
        38 cav. issue pistol - Moro's had a nasty habit of tying off at major joints
        right before running into battle & you of course know how the 38
        overpenetrates. This has nothing to do with the fact that crying torture does
        not make it so, nor does it have anything to do with the fact that the US is
        not obliged to apply the Hauge convention to folks caught without recognizable
        uniform but with weapon in hand. Personally *I* can't get excited about
        defending their rights, but I do acknowledge that they do posess the rights
        granted to ALL men under the US constitution. Of course, while that issue is
        debated in court, let these murdering fuckers kneel for days in the halogen
        sunshine - I bet that whatever they go through is not likely to come close to
        what they alredy put others through. This is not punishment, this is due
        process.

        www.boondocksnet.com/ai/twain/contested_e.html

        In March of 1906 U.S. troops under General Leonard Wood trapped a large group
        of Muslim Filipinos in the extinct volcanic crater of Mount Dajo and fired upon
        them from ships off the coast and from a safe distance in the heights above for
        four days until all 900 were reported dead. In June of 1913 a similar massacre,
        led by General John J. Pershing, resulted in the deaths of about 500 Muslim
        Filipinos at Bud Bagsak. Useful discussions of the later warfare can be found
        in James H. Blount, The American Occupation of the Philippines, 1898-1912 (New
        York: G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1913); Orlino A. Ochosa, "Bandoleros": Outlawed
        Guerrillas of the Philippine-American War, 1903-1907 (Quezon City: New Day,
        1995); and Peter Gordon Gowing, Mandate in Moroland: The American Government of
        Muslim Filipinos, 1899-1920 (Quezon City: New Day, 1983).


        BTW, recommended video for this week is the 9th episode of South Park, 5th
        season titled " Osama Bin Laden Has Farty pants"

        Shalom!
        • Gość: Paul Re: garding the moro massacre: IP: *.proxy.aol.com 22.01.02, 21:51
          Yeah well, nobody gets excited about neither defending nor disregarding "their"
          human rights, I suppose. Nobody but the press and some idealistic peace lovin'
          assholes. Is there anything in US constitution that prohibits US officials to
          take any measures necessary to "serve&protect" their clients – US citizens.
          Personally I think they try to do the job right this time and these are some
          serious, dangerous guys they have to deal with, that's all. As long as our
          government is not trying to protect us from ourselves, I pretty much go along
          with the flow without any worrying. "Desperate times call for desperate
          measures", I guess... ;-). When you are faced with an individual, who is
          willing and able to blow himself to pieces, real accomplishment being taking
          you along, wouldn't you rather keep him handcuffed and subdued? I heard some
          guy saying that our constitution can't be used as a tool for national suicide.
          Yeah, I know, there is a flip side to that coin, but oh what to do, what to
          do....;-). Colt 45 was designed to stop a horse, that was the main requirement
          for a new army handgun. And it did;-). I just got back from office birthday
          party. I bet you know what hell it may be. Have u seen "Office Space"?
          Nothing serious, just another bullshit comedy, but "the picture speaks a
          thousand words". My best,
          Paul

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