What chance is there for peace in M.E.?

[chickenshorts]

[chickenshorts]

claiming someone else's land because your ancestors lived there once upon a
time is simply unreasonable
But claiming it because god gave it to you is insane!

And you can't negotitate with these people for two reasons.

1. they dont want to negotiate.

2. they havent finished yet. they want ALL the land their F. god promised them,
not just the part they have now.

if the international community and the UN get involved and force a solution
they won/t accept it... And, of course, what fucking international community?

But I think you're right in saying the International Community should play an
active role.

Is Europe and the rest of the world willing to help put an end to the current
slaughter we watch each day on the news?

Why not?

The Middle East is not far from Europe, and peace and stability is in the
common interest of all.

Not only that, but what ever happened to universal human rights?

Is the rest of the world saying that when the victims are Muslims, forget
about "Human Rights", ignore the topic and think about other "cliches"
like "Democracy" in Latin America?

Israel was declared in 1948 by people who arrived after ww2.

the palestinians had lived there for centuries. that fact alone indicates where
justice lies in this case.

the 'israelis' are as guilty as the white s.africans or former rhodesians were
of depriving the rightful owners of their land.

no-one asked the palestinians if they wanted to give up their land. it was
taken from them by zionists who had powerful friends in the international
community.

the palestinians had no powerful friends then or now! and so are victms of this
land grab.

in the 18th or 19th century you could do this. it was acceptable. wrong but
acceptable. colonialism was even a source of national pride!

by the end of ww1 the natives were getting restless and wanted their land back.
by the end of ww2 everyone with any sense understood that colonialism was a
despicable violence, both physical and cultural, visited upon peoples with
little defence. it had become a morally bankrupt ideology.

in 1948 when israel was founded it was unacceptable. I am sure even to many
jews!

I doubt if the jews really believe that palestine is their land. they know it
was stolen, they are no more stupid than the apartheid white s. africans, who
also knew that they had no honest claim.

so what do you do in this situation?

first you must demonise the people you have stolen the land from. in white
s.africa you considered the natives sub-human. in israel you consider them
terrorists.

in reality it was the apartheid regime that was inhuman and in israel it is the
israelis who are the terrorists.

Now, don't call me antisemite whoever you are, an artist or businessman... just
tell me I've got it all wrong... But how and when?

[chickenshorts]

www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/israelis.html

[Gość: wacko jacko]

The water melons are very juicy now.

...juicy whack

[chickenshorts]

...thank you, wacko.
Looks like this incisive comment of yours could begin of a scintillating
conversation...

[Gość: wacko jacko]

what conversation?
Your piece on the Middle East is at best immature not to say sophomoric.
It reads rather like a propaganda leaflet. One sided view of the world.

And who doesn't want to negotiate? Get your facts straight before we can even
begin to talk seriously.

The watermelons are really juicy this year, really juicy.

[erwas]

every point you make, chicken, is a winner.
since you have won every battle so far, how come you are not winning the war?
how can evil, brainless, hatred-monger ditto heads, triumph over your subtly
woven threads of reason, justice, and compassion, hm?
take note of this piece of Republican strategy. I forget the name of the
author. back in the '60s, he was a left wing radical on the barricades,
Leninist, Black Panther supporter etc.; he made a rapid switch to the right
some time afterwards. he is much valued in the Republican Party, since he
brings well-tried, Soviet methods, updated for modern use. his strategy can be
summed up so: since none of our platform makes any sense to anyone who gets
over-analytic over it, do not debate, we will loose every debate.
do not debate your enemy - annihilate him!

it worked for Vladimir.

pupping on the brain.......................

[Gość: wacko jacko]

erwas, how can you?
You say every point made by chickenshorts is a winner?
Well, he starts with a lie and there is another one and one more.

Ther are the good people and bad people. Good people are compassionate democrats
and evil people are republicans. Democrats work for equality and well being of
all the humans while republicans want to pollute the air and the water to poison
the people and they want to starve the children too.

Get real , boys. It's tough out there and it'll get tougher.


PS. Why want we start advocating the return of Szczecin (Stettin) and Wroclaw
(Breslau) to Germany? These territories were declared polish after WW2, werent
they? Didn't chickenshorts write that "claiming someone else's land because your
ancestors lived there once upon a time is simply unreasonable" ?
Compassion A+
Logic F

The watermelons are really juicy and sweet.

[chickenshorts]

Gość portalu: wacko jacko napisał(a):

> Compassion A+
> Logic F

Can I try again, komisyjny?...

[chickenshorts]

erwas napisał:

> every point you make, chicken, is a winner.
> since you have won every battle so far, how come you are not winning the war?

Can't do it on me own...
Is that how see my 'mission' here? Or it's more on the side of 'sour grapes'?
How personal was your rubbishing the UK?

> how can evil, brainless, hatred-monger ditto heads, triumph over your subtly
> woven threads of reason, justice, and compassion, hm?

Might is right, is it?

> take note of this piece of Republican strategy. I forget the name of the
> author. back in the '60s, he was a left wing radical on the barricades,
> Leninist, Black Panther supporter etc.; he made a rapid switch to the right
> some time afterwards. he is much valued in the Republican Party, since he
> brings well-tried, Soviet methods, updated for modern use. his strategy can
be
> summed up so: since none of our platform makes any sense to anyone who gets
> over-analytic over it, do not debate, we will loose every debate.
> do not debate your enemy - annihilate him!
>
> it worked for Vladimir.

Bollocks! And you know it.