NKJO or UNIVERSITY

[cat13]

I'd like to study English and would like to have some opinions about whether
university study or NKJO courses might be better.

I've heard only negative things about NKJOs - the students are rejects who
failed to get into a proper university; you can't find a job after NKJO etc,
etc. !!!

[foghat]

what in the world is NKJO?

[cat13]

NKJO = Teacher Training College (there's one in most Polish cities)

[Gość: Lara]

Personally I think there is no difference between University and college (
NKJO). There are the same subjects like : Literature , Phonetics , the
grammar , English history , American history. You study a lot of in University
or NKJO. Generally in order to be a student of English you should be very
fluent in English.
The second thing is connected with a job and it is a good question. Now it is
very difficult to get a job and it does not depend on the faculty. English is
not enough in oder to get good work. It is also connected with your personality
and the using of the Internet. It is worth to study someting additionaly like
History , economics or Law. In order to work in the good company or as a
translator you have to know a lot of things. The best idea is to graduate from
economics or law and English.

[Gość: fibi]

Gość portalu: Lara napisał(a):

> Personally I think there is no difference between University and college (
> NKJO). There are the same subjects like : Literature , Phonetics , the
> grammar , English history , American history. You study a lot of in
University
> or NKJO. Generally in order to be a student of English you should be very
> fluent in English.
> The second thing is connected with a job and it is a good question. Now it is
> very difficult to get a job and it does not depend on the faculty. English is
> not enough in oder to get good work. It is also connected with your
personality
> and the using of the Internet. It is worth to study someting additionaly like
> History , economics or Law. In order to work in the good company or as a
> translator you have to know a lot of things. The best idea is to graduate
from
> economics or law and English.


Sorry but the same subjects does not make the level of learning equal. And
don't tell me that english is not enough. Try to survive one year in the
university and you will see how hard it is.

[Gość: pundit]

There is one good reason to choose University - it is more difficult to get
there, so the students are better and so is the level of learning...

[Gość: psari]

University - if you're able to get there. It's true that most of the subjects
at university and NKJO are the same but the strandards cannot be really
comapred. University graduates have little problems with getting a job,
provided you've graduated form a full five-years course, not so called
magisterskie uzupelniajace. The gap between university and NKJO is so huge that
it's impossible to reach the standard five-years course within two years. In
fact there are very little full-course day school English Philology graduates
and the demand is quite big.
And one more thing - if you want to translate University (and a good one) is
the only option.

Gość portalu: pundit napisał(a):

> There is one good reason to choose University - it is more difficult to get
> there, so the students are better and so is the level of learning...

[Gość: MonikaS]

It really depends what you want to do but if you want to have your Master's I
must tell you that after college it's really difficult to get to the
postgraduate, top-up 2 years at uni. I graduated from college and was one among
200 candidates for this top-up studies so the chances of actually getting there
are pretty low. What I did, however, was come to London and do a one-year top-
up in English-Polish translation; it's unbelievable but after college you can
do one full-time year here to get your Master's. Of course it's a bit pricey
but it's worth it, you're not 'wasting' two years and when you finally come
back to Poland you have English Master's in your pocket. Think about it:)

[Gość: nat]

That sounds like a lot of rubbish. Where is it that you do that magical one
year which rewards you with masters degree? One year table dancing and you
might end up with a master of sorts, that maybe.

[Gość: MonikaS]

I did not say that you do one year, which rewards you with a master's degree; I
distinctly remember saying it's a postgraduate degree, so after you've
graduated from NKJO you can do one extra year (full-time, 15 hours a week) or
two-year course at Westminster University in London (Bilingual Translation)It
always amazes me how people are ready to reject something and call it rubbish
without having ample proof... Do you want uni tel.no so that you can double-
check it:)?

[butter_fly]

Gość portalu: MonikaS napisał(a):

> I did not say that you do one year, which rewards you with a master's degree;
I
>
> distinctly remember saying it's a postgraduate degree, so after you've
> graduated from NKJO you can do one extra year (full-time, 15 hours a week) or
> two-year course at Westminster University in London (Bilingual Translation)It
> always amazes me how people are ready to reject something and call it rubbish
> without having ample proof... Do you want uni tel.no so that you can double-
> check it:)?

MonikaS, but you're doing it so that's what matters, isn't it?
BTW it was good to find out what people usually read while travelling by Tube.
I was just wondering what the students over there read for pleasure. I don't
mean the things you are required, just things you find out about by word of
mouth, fashionable or whatever you call it.

rgds butterfly

[Gość: MonikaS]

not so sure what British students read 'cause I did not have much contact with
them; my group was all Polish since it was Engl-Pol translation course. as far
as I know, sci-fi rules; apart from it, also international bestsellers in form
of Amy Tan, Bill Bryson, Tony Parsons and the like:)
greetings:)

[butter_fly]

thanks
MonikaS, just a thought - 15 hours per week isn't much unless of course you
have plenty of homework to do in your own time. What do you think? That's only
3 hours a day...
On the other hand, MonikaS, come on, you should go out and mix a bit after the
lessons;) All work no play - you know the rest... and time waits for no man:)
Have a great time any way.
bf

[Gość: MonikaS]

I do go out and mix with people, it just happens to be people in their thirties
so they don't necessary qualify as students. I'm not this sad solitary person
trust me

[Gość: nat]

No thank you - it is in public domain after all. I still say that you are
talking utter nonsense.

[Gość: Jerzy]

And what about this opportuniy:

angielski.co.uk/summer.htm

[Gość: theperson]

it just depends on what are your expectations concerning your future job. if
you want to teach -NKJO is definetely a better choice as the amount of time
devoted to teaching how to teach can't be compared to University - 3 years vs
one year of lecture. if you want to do something else - choose University (
sorry but I can't think of any other option , oh, right, translation! if you
want to Translate try School of Translators and Interpretors - you don't have
to be a university graduate, anyway.)me and other NKJO (Poznan, not Pcim Dolny)
graduates didn't have any problems finding jobs as teachers ( at private
Language Schools). If your English level is good being a NKJO graduate is an
asset - you know how to teach.

[Gość: Pan Ditt]

Well, the opportunity to learn English at a summer camp organized by a private
school from Gorzow Wielkopolski does not look like an alternative option for
studying at University, does it?

[poznaniak3]

Firstly, GOOD universities in the UK don't accept a three year "BA" NKJO course
as entry qualification for an MA degree.

The university you mention must have been very short of students ...

Secondly, if you pay your own fees - anything is possible.

Finally, the summer course you mention looks rather fun!