We should stand firmly behind Saddam

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Hussein. Bush is a warmonger and a most dangerous man on the face of the
world. He is disturbing the peace in Iraq an the region.
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3284-614607,00.html

Whose war is it?

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www.amconmag.com/03_24_03/cover.html

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Whacky! have you read it yet?

"...situation against Saddam Hussein and his removal for American security
interests? And what would be the link in terms of Israel?"

Whacky! Remember me?...

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(...)"My wife sees Iraqi victims of torture every day where she works, at the
Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture; we wanted to tell
Bridget Prentice that Iraq is in desperate need of regime change and the
establishment of a democratic order.
"The Iraqi people need it much more than Bush and Blair could ever understand.
But democracy for Iraq will not be achieved by bombing and invading the
country. It cannot be trusted to George Bush. The US will not accept a
democratic verdict which is not to its liking in a strategically important
country, possessing the world's second largest oil reserves. They strangled
just such a verdict in Congo in the 1960s and in Chile in the 1970s, and they
are working hard to reverse it in Venezuela today."

www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,916235,00.html

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Yes chickenshorts, I do remember you well.
The "points" in a Guardian piece a pure gibberish. Up to 1990 the US policy
was to contain a spread of Soviet influence. Today, the policy of containment
is officially dead. The Soviet Union is not there anymore. Now, it's an open
and preemptive war on international terrorism which cannot be contained.
Unless you believe in tooth ferry
It is at least silly to compare in one sentence Congo and Chile in the past,
and Venezuela today.

Pat Buchanan is a strange bedfellow. Chastised by the left as a kook and
extreme right wing anti-Semite until yesterday, he is much revered today.

Other than that, I' having fun. Are you?

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Gość portalu: wacko jacko napisał(a):
> Yes chickenshorts, I do remember you well.(...)
> Other than that, I' having fun. Are you?<

George Monbiot... begins:
'There is surely no more obvious symptom of the corruption of western politics
than the disproportion between the money available for sustaining life and the
money available for terminating it. We could, I think, expect that, if they
were asked to vote on the matter, most of the citizens of the rich world would
demand that their governments spend as much on humanitarian aid as they spend
on developing new means of killing people. But the military-industrial complex
is a beast which becomes both fiercer and hungrier the more it is fed.

'As the US prepares to spend some $12bn a month on bombing the Iraqis, it has
so far offered only $65m to provide them with food, water, sanitation, shelter
and treatment for the injuries they are likely to receive. A confidential UN
contingency plan for Iraq, which was leaked in January, suggests that the war
could expose around one million children to "risk of death from malnutrition".
It warns that "the collapse of essential services in Iraq could lead to a
humanitarian emergency of proportions well beyond the capacity of UN agencies
and other aid organisations". Around 60% of the population is entirely
dependent on the oil for food programme, administered by the Iraqi government.
This scheme was suspended by the UN yesterday, leaving the Iraqis reliant on
foreign aid. The money pledged so far is enough to sustain them for less than a
fortnight.

'It is hard to believe, however, that the US government will leave them to
starve once it has captured their country. For the weeks or months during which
Iraq dominates the news, the US will be obliged to defend them from the most
immediate impacts of the institutional collapse its war will cause. Afterwards,
like the people of Afghanistan, the Iraqis will be first forgotten by the media
and then deserted by those who promised to support them.

'But even before the first troops cross the border, the impending war has
caused a global humanitarian crisis. As donor countries set aside their aid
budgets to save both themselves and the US from embarrassment under the camera
lights in Baghdad, they have all but ceased to provide money to other nations.
The world, as a result, could soon be confronted by a humanitarian funding
crisis graver than any since the end of the second world war."

Prisoners held in cages in camps, denied the rights of either criminals or
prisoners of war. Arab and Asian Muslims persecuted. Sound familiar? US troops
invading Central Asia – the new Lebensraum? A choice between two political
parties that are effectively one. Internal spying on citizens and institutional
conformity – ever heard of the Gestapo and Gleichschaltung?

Whacky, this is my question to you:
George Bush’s America: is it the Fourth Reich?
www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/0,7371,823277,00.html

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Lo and behold, let me get it straight. They are going to
defy the UN, an irrelevant body, and attack Iraq for
defying the aforementioned irrelevant UN. Just days ago
they were trying to bribe the irrelevant UN into passing
another resolution that would have been irrelevant in the
first place. Now they want to kill Iraqis to liberate
them. That's esoteric logic. And weapons of mass
distraction, the out-of-whack Waco, Texas, agitprop – the
Trotsky style to boot.