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IP: 172.16.1.* 04.04.02, 22:59
Podobno Polonia tam sie niechetnie osiedla bo jezyk francuski jest trudny. Ale
napewno gdzies np. w Montrealu sa jacys Polacy,moze powiedza cos o zyciu u
Franko-Kanadyjczykow. Czy np. tkzw. odradzajacy sie nacjonalizm oebecki Wam nie
doskwiera ? Jade w maju do Montrealu ,chcialbym sie dowiedziec czy u Franko-
Kanadyjczykow mozna np. czuc sie tak kosmopolitycznie i na luzie jak w Anglo-
Kanadzie lub USA ? Napiszcie cos sensownego moi drodzy . Dobrze. Pozdrawiam.
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    • Gość: Biala Re: KANADA ale francusko-jezyczna IP: *.qc.sympatico.ca 04.04.02, 23:07
      To zalezy jakim jezykiem wladasz. Jezeli znasz francuski - nie ma zadnego
      problemu. Jak zamierzasz poslugiwac sie angielskim od razu zaznaczaj w
      rozmowie, ze jestes Polka. Zdecydowanie ulatwi Ci to kontakty.
      • Gość: roseanne Re: KANADA ale francusko-jezyczna IP: *.sympatico.ca 04.04.02, 23:13
        bylam w "kebeku" - w Quebecku, w Motrealu
        bylam w Nowym Brunszwiku - w wielu miejscach / obu jezyczne
        nigdzie mi zle nie bylo, do bycia Polka sie przyznawalam, nie chcialam robic za
        turystke z USA, byli uprzejmiejsi i bardziej chetni do rozmowy
        • Gość: ESL Re: KANADA ale francusko-jezyczna IP: *.sympatico.ca 04.04.02, 23:31
          Klusko nie jedz do Montrealu w maju, poczekaj do lata - wtedy jest tam Jazz Festival - moja ukochana
          impreza muzyczna na naszym kontynenciesmile
          W ogole Montreal ma zawsze ciekawe imprezy kulturalne, zwlaszcza w lecie. Wtedy tez sa najczesciej
          swietne wystawy, w zeszlym roku byl "Erotyczny Picasso", zobaczymy co bedzie w tym. Baw sie dobrze!
    • Gość: NYSE2000 Re: KANADA ale francusko-jezyczna IP: *.sympatico.ca 05.04.02, 00:52
      Gość portalu: Kluska napisał(a):

      > Podobno Polonia tam sie niechetnie osiedla bo jezyk francuski jest trudny. Ale
      >
      > napewno gdzies np. w Montrealu sa jacys Polacy,moze powiedza cos o zyciu u
      > Franko-Kanadyjczykow. Czy np. tkzw. odradzajacy sie nacjonalizm oebecki Wam nie
      >
      > doskwiera ? Jade w maju do Montrealu ,chcialbym sie dowiedziec czy u Franko-
      > Kanadyjczykow mozna np. czuc sie tak kosmopolitycznie i na luzie jak w Anglo-
      > Kanadzie lub USA ? Napiszcie cos sensownego moi drodzy . Dobrze. Pozdrawiam.

      mozna ale jak nie bedziesz poruszac problemow politycznych - chyba ze dobrze ich
      znasz to tak ale jak nie to uwazaj

      poza tym pytaj zawsze czy spikaja ingliszem bo jak do nich zaczniesz po angielsku
      tak bez pytania czy znaja czy nie to nie odpowiedza nawet jak znaja - to tak
      jakby ktos do ciebie po hiszpansku zaczal w toronto i jeszcze sie wnerwial ze nie
      rozumiesz - okay ?

      (If you don't speak French, don't worry most people in tourist areas speak
      English. If you're practicing your French, don't be surprised if a Francophone
      will switch to English., just insist on speaking French and explain you're
      practicing. Don't expect everyone to speak English. (that goes for most non-
      english speaking countries anyway).

      polonia w QC jest 95 % anglojezyczna a francusko jezyczni nie trzymaja sie
      polonii dlatego ze nie sa akceptowani (francuskojezyczny = separatysta wg polakow
      anglojezycznych)

      natura quebecow jest bardziej latynoska wienc sie nie dziw ze cie obcaluja i
      tego - to jest tu normalne - a tak w zasadzie to oni sa amerykanami mowiacymi po
      francusku - styl zycia itp jest taki sam jak gdzie indziej

      roznice sa nieznaczne - w montrealu jest mniej fastfoodow niz w anglojezycznej
      kanadzie czy usa ale jest wiecej dobrych restauracji - quebecy sa wienc znacznie
      szczuplejsi od pozostalych amerykanow - znajomi w toronto byli olsnieni mlodymi
      babeczkami - mowiac ze takich u nich brakuje

      w sumie montreal jest dosc ladny (jesli cokolwiek na tym kontynecie mozna nazwac
      ladnym) - glownie stare miasto - mozesz pochodzic po dzielnicy PLATEAU - jest ona
      cala w wiktorianskich domach - bardzo ladna i spokojna

      ciekawe sa muzea w starym porcie masz archeologiczne gdzie jest historia ukazana
      kultury amerykanskiej - inne tez sa ciekawe

      www.musee-pointe-a-calliere.qc.ca/indexan.html

      www2.ville.montreal.qc.ca/chm/engl/chma.htm

      muzeum sztuki itp

      smile
      • Gość: NYSE2000 Old Montreal IP: *.sympatico.ca 05.04.02, 00:54
        Old Montreal is, as you probably guessed it, the old part of Montreal. It is
        where the city was born, in fact it's the starting point of many things. Very
        few of the early buildings (mid 1600) remain, many fires have swept through old
        Montreal in the early days, but there's still a lot of buildings from different
        eras. There's a large variety of buildings, of different styles and functions,
        from public buildings (the old courts, city hall, etc) to more commercial
        buildings (the old stock exchange, board of trade, etc). Most of the buildings'
        are from the 17th century to early 20th century, although there are some modern
        buildings. Those different buildings in old Montreal really represent the
        evolution of the city.

        There are many interesting things to do, mostly visiting museums and historical
        buildings, walking around and taking in the sights (and eating...). Many family
        activities take place in the old port : special exhibitions, biking,
        rollerblading, etc. Most of the activities are held at the King Edward pier in
        the old port. The Jacques-Cartier pier is mostly used for special events like
        the Just for Laugh festival or when the Cirque du Soleil is in town, there's
        also a place for lunch and an information desk.

        Old Montreal can get very crowded and very touristy during the summer since
        this part of town is full of tourists, so if you are the type of visitor that
        want to stay away from the other tourists, better visit old Montreal in the off
        season or early in the day because it's worth it. But there isn't much going on
        outside the tourism season (between October and April) so you won't see many
        people walking in the streets. During the off season, the museums are still
        open as are the most restaurants and bars (but with limited hours) and there
        are activities that you can do just during the winter (like skating in the old
        port for instance).

        Old Montreal can be divided in four sections : the Place Jacques-Cartier and
        the old port, the Place d'Armes, the old financial district (St-Jacques street)
        and the Pointe-à-Callière section.

        The main places to visit are Place Jacques Cartier, in front of the Montreal
        city hall (Champ de Mars metro station) and Place d'Armes (Place d'Armes metro
        station further west). The Place Jacques Cartier leads down to the old port
        where many activities take place. The Place d'Armes is surrounded by great
        buildings including the Notre-Dame basilica.


        N.B. Don't use your car in old Montreal unless you really have to use it, some
        streets are closed to traffic (Place Jacques-Cartier for example)and on top of
        it, the streets are not large and often packed with people.
        Surrounding streets :
        McGill street (beaver hall) to the west
        Ville-Marie autoroute to the north
        St-Laurent river to the south
        Berri street to the east.
        Metro stations :
        Champs de Mars (Champ de Mars, City Hall, Place Cartier, Old Port)
        Place d'Armes (Place d'Armes, Notre-Dame basilica)
        Square Victoria (St-Jacques street, World Trade Center)
        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

        Must see
        the Notre-Dame basilica (Place d'armes metro station).
        St-Sulpice seminary, oldest building in Montreal (1685) still standing, to the
        right of the Notre-Dame basilica.
        Place d'Armes, in front of the Notre-Dame basilica. To the north of the place
        there's the Bank of Montreal (the building with the dome) which has a small
        museum about ... money (free admission, from 10am to 4pm).
        Rue St-Jacques, the old business street (between Square-Victoria metro station
        and Place-d'armes metro station).
        Centre de Commerce Mondial, block of renovated old buildings (Square-Victoria
        metro station), there's a great atrium with a fountain where the ruelle des
        Fortifications (alley) use to be. There's also a piece of the Berlin wall that
        was given to Montreal for its 350th birthday, it's near the east entrance (on
        the opposite side of the subway entrance).
        Place Jacques-Cartier (Champs de Mars metro station), starts from Notre-Dame
        street near City Hall and continues down to de la Commune street. It's
        surrounded by restaurants and cafes (mostly for tourists).
        de la Commune street parallel to the St-Laurent river and the old port (the old
        port is full of activities during the summer : exhibitions, you can rent
        bicycles, caleche rides, musicians...).
        the Clock Tower, Bonsecour Street (just east of the Bonsecour Market), south of
        de la Commune. It's a good walk to the tower and a lots of steps to go up, but
        it's a very good view of Montreal and Ste-Helene island.
        The old fortifications, old Montreal use to be surrounded by fortifications,
        but they have been destroyed. There are still some parts left, behind city hall
        on the Champs-de-Mars (Champs de Marc metro station) and in the Pointe-à-
        Callière museum.
        Cours le Royer, old warehouses converted into condominiums. The story of the
        buildings and the land is written on a plaque with holograms to illustrate.
        It's just east of Notre-Dame basilica (walk down on St-Sulpice from Notre-Dame
        street).
        • Gość: francuz Re: Old Montreal IP: *.144-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca 05.04.02, 04:00
          NYSE' Qui va lire tout ton guide en Anglais? Tu ne sais meme pas si Kluska
          parle l'Anglais? Pourquoi ne le traduirais-tu pas en Polonais?
          Si tu ne peux comprendre le sens de mon intervention, je pourrais te le
          traduire en Polonais. Apres tout nous sommes au Québec, et si j,ai bien
          compris, Kluska, elle, si elle veut venir ici c!est parce que nous parlons
          Francais!
          • Gość: NYSE2000 Re: Old Montreal IP: *.sympatico.ca 05.04.02, 07:47
            Gość portalu: francuz napisał(a):

            > NYSE' Qui va lire tout ton guide en Anglais? Tu ne sais meme pas si Kluska
            > parle l'Anglais? Pourquoi ne le traduirais-tu pas en Polonais?


            je pensait qu'elle parlait anglais car elle voulait s'excuser en disant qu'elle
            venait de pologne - puis c'est trop long a traduire en polonais - d'ailleurs y a
            surement un guide en polonais qu'elle pourrait s'achete si elle voulait


            > Si tu ne peux comprendre le sens de mon intervention, je pourrais te le
            > traduire en Polonais. Apres tout nous sommes au Québec, et si j,ai bien
            > compris, Kluska, elle, si elle veut venir ici c!est parce que nous parlons
            > Francais!


            chui pas sur de ca ... elle veut simplement visiter montreal et demande les trucs
            sur la langue - che meme po ou elle habite anyway

            a plus !

            smile
      • Gość: NYSE2000 Montreal - Downtown (Centre-Ville) IP: *.sympatico.ca 05.04.02, 00:56
        General description
        The commercial downtown area is full of modern buildings, underground shopping
        malls, victorian houses and of course St-Catherine street. It can be divided
        into many sections :
        the shopping district (Ste-Catherine),
        the business district and the hotel section,
        the museum district,
        the Golden square mile and the McGill ghetto,
        Mont-Royal park and the "stairs" district,
        east downtown (Place-des-Arts and govt. buildings),
        the fur district,
        and the Shaughnessy village.
        The shopping district is Ste-Catherine street, between Bleury to the east and
        Bishop to the west, and the underground shopping malls. Ste-Catherine is the
        main downtown commercial street with hundreds of stores (well.. it's a
        commercial street) that sells mostly clothes, shoes, eyeglasses, etc. The
        stores are usually part of chains (like the Gap, Roots, etc). You'll find also
        a lot of arcades, video peep shows, movie theaters, fast food places, people on
        the street corners selling hand-made jewelry, street performers and homeless
        people people asking for money. But what makes Ste-Catherine most interesting
        is that most people walking from point A to point B downtown use Ste-Catherine
        street, so there's always a lot of people (especially friday and saturday
        nights in the summer).

        The business district is located alongside René-Levesque blvd. between du Parc
        ave./Bleury street to the east and Guy street to the west. Other highrise
        office buildings can be found on de Maisonneuve blvd. and Sherbrooke street
        between those same streets. There's not much to see on René-Levesque blvd.
        (except the St-Patrick basilica and Square Dorchester), and even less on de
        Maisonneuve blvd. between Stanley and Bleury streets. Sherbrooke street is
        where there are dozen of high-rise hotels near du Parc ave./Bleury to the east
        (the hotel section) and the Musée des Beaux-Arts (fine arts museum) to the west.

        The museum district (just mentionned above), is centered around the Musée des
        Beaux-Arts (Sherbrooke street west and Crescent). It's where you will find
        upscale art galleries, gift shops, antique stores and designer clothes and
        jewelry (Holt Renfrew, Cartier, etc). Those stores are either on Sherbrooke
        street or south of it on Crescent or Bishop. North of Sherbrooke street is
        where you will find small residential streets with some bed&breakfasts.

        The Golden Square mile is the district where, at the turn of the century, 70%
        of Canada's wealth was in the hands of a few hundred families living in the
        Square (that the golden part). The square is located between Côte-des-Neiges to
        the west, du Parc ave. to the east, Sherbrooke to the south and Mont-Royal to
        the north (that's an area that is just about one square mile). It's also where
        you'll find the McGill university campus (it's main entrance is on the corner
        of McGill college ave. and Sherbrooke street) which is surrounded by the
        McGill "ghetto" (the stereotypical student only lives there, eats there,
        parties there and never leaves that district) and Milton-Parc to the east.

        The Mont-Royal park is a large park on Mont-Royal itself designed by Frederic
        Law Olmsted, the same man that designed Central Park in New York City. It's
        also where you will find the best view of Montreal, if you ever wanted a city
        at your feet, here's your chance. People here call it "la montagne" or the
        mountain for lack of a better word, you can hike, montain bike in the summer
        and skate or slide in the winter. You can access the park by foot through
        downtown and the "stairs section" (the are four streets that lead to a dead
        end - Redpath, du Musée, de la Montagne and Drummond north of Docteur-Penfield -
        so to reach des Pins ave. you need to climb up stairs, they also give a good
        view of downtown. The Redpath stairs are probably the nicest ones) and walk up
        the path and the very long stairs or go by bus or car through the Camillien-
        Houde road (just west of the corner of du Parc. ave. and Mont-Royal ave.)

        The east downtown section is where you will find the Place-des-Arts, the
        Complexe Desjardins and the Complexe Guy-Favreau and chinatown to the south.
        The east downtown is located between Parc ave./Bleury street to the west, St-
        Laurent blvd. to the east, Sherbrooke street to the north and René-Levesque
        blvd. to the south.

        The fur district is a very small section of downtown where the fur industry use
        to do, and still does to a certain extent, its business. You will find fur
        manufacturers, designers and stores. It is located between de Maisonneuve blvd.
        to the north, Ste-Catherine street to the south, City Councillors to the west
        and Bleury to the east.

        Surrounding streets :
        Atwater street to the west
        Park Avenue to the east
        Mount-Royal to the north
        Rene-Levesque blvd to the south.
        Metro stations :
        McGill
        Peel
        Guy
        Atwater
      • Gość: NYSE2000 Montreal - The Underground City IP: *.sympatico.ca 05.04.02, 00:57
        The Underground City
        The underground "city" is a part of downtown, it's not really a city more like
        a district. Some may have an image of all montrealers living underground during
        winters but the underground city is mostly tunnels and walkways connecting
        downtown shopping malls, metro stations, office buildings and even some hotels.
        It's a great place to visit if you love to shop and walk or if it's a rainy
        day. Here's all the information on the underground city.

        For some people, Montreal's underground city is just a bunch of shopping malls
        connected together. For others, it's the city of the future according to
        Leonardo Da Vinci's vision. But for most people, it's a convenient way to get
        around without suffering from the weather since it never rains or snows in the
        underground, it's always cool in the summer and warm in winter.

        The underground "city" is a collection of tunnels, metro stations, underground
        shopping malls, hotels and office towers that are connected together. They are
        three major "neighbourhoods" in the underground city :

        The first section starts at McGill metro station (or the Bay store to be more
        precise) on an east-west axis and run though the Place de la Cathedrale
        shopping center, Eaton and the Eaton Center shopping center, the Royal Trust
        Place shopping center, Simpson's (only open during shopping hours, the store
        itself is closed for the moment) and finally the Cours Mont-Royal (it was an
        hotel but it has been renovated into a ... shopping center).

        The second set of tunnels is between Windsor train station (the building that
        looks like a castle on the corner of Peel and de la Gauchetière), the Gare
        Centrale (central train station), Place Bonaventure (shopping and exhibition
        halls, Bonaventure metro station), 1001 de la Gauchetière (there's a year-round
        indoor ice rink) and Place Ville-Marie (the cross shaped building with a
        sweeping light on top that you can see for miles at night).

        The Place Ville-Marie has recently been connected by a tunnel with the Eaton
        Center (if you go from the Eaton center, the entrance is at the restaurant
        level (basement)).

        The third set of tunnels starts from the Place des Arts (theater, concert
        halls, Musée d'Art Contemporain, Place-des-Arts metro station), then goes under
        Ste-Catherine street to the Complexe Desjardins (office towers, shopping mall,
        movie theaters, food court), then to the Complexe Guy-Favreau (office tower,
        gorgeous gardens, Chinatown), then to the Palais des Congrès (congress hall,
        Place d'Armes metro station) and finally old Montreal. This section of the
        underground is on a north-south axis. There are small exhibitions (and
        sometimes interesting) at the Complexe Desjardins and Complexe Guy-Favreau
        (altough less interesting).

        There are also underground "islands", ie. isolated sets of passageways that are
        not connected to other parts of the underground :

        La Cité appartment complex : there's the Hotel du Parc, the Cinema du Parc (a
        repertory movie house), a small food court and various stores, the Place du
        Parc office tower, the La Cité's gym, etc.
        Berri-UQAM metro station : there's the main Université du Québec à Montréal
        (UQAM) campus, the Place Dupuis and Radisson Hotel, the Palais du Commerce and
        the Tazmahal indoor rollerblading rink, the Voyageur Bus terminal, etc.
        Square Victoria metro station : there's the Centre de commerce mondial (World
        trade center) and the Inter-Continental Hotel, the Bourse de Montreal (stock
        exchange), etc.
        Atwater metro station : AlexisNihon plaza, Westmount square, etc.
        Sherbrooke metro station with its Holiday Inn Metro Center and the Institut
        d'Hotellerie.
        Most tunnels have small shops and restaurants and are usually well marked so
        you can find your way easily (but not always). They have recently came up with
        a unified marking system to give directions in the underground but it has not
        yet caught up everywhere. The signs are suppose to be in purple. The tunnels
        are also well marked on the transit map available at metro stations.

        There are six hotels connected to these tunnels as are many shopping malls,
        office towers, movie theaters, restaurants, etc.. But all in all there's not
        much to see there (unless you like shopping). There's the novelty of walking
        all this way underground and sometimes it's a quick way to walk through some
        parts downtown. It's also cool in the summer and warm in winter, and it never
        rains... But it can be interesting if you like exploring, shopping or if you
        are the only person on earth that never saw a shopping mall....

        Note that the access is sometimes limited to store opening hours (Eaton's,
        Simpson's) or limited to subway opening hours. (see end of the list for those
        hours).

        Metro stations :
        McGill and Peel (for the first section)
        Bonaventure (for the second section)
        Place-des-Arts and Place d'Armes (for the third section)
      • Gość: NYSE2000 Mnotreal - Plateau Mont-Royal IP: *.sympatico.ca 05.04.02, 00:57
        Plateau Mont-Royal

        The plateau was made famous in the 70's by writers and artists. It is still
        known to be a hangout of would-be singers and writers. It's also the most
        popular neighbourhood in Montreal, a lot of people want to live there for the
        many stores and the excellent neighbourhood restaurants and bars.

        The plateau is a large, mostly residential, district that as a lot of
        interesting neighbourhood restaurants and cafés. The Plateau is a very popular
        place to live or just hang out, I don't think you can mention Montreal withouth
        talking about the Plateau (it certainly grabs a lot of media attention). It
        started out at first as a working class neighbourhood (and like other
        districts, there were many small villages and cities in that area that merged
        with Montreal at the turn of the century) but in the 60's and 70's it became
        the place where many writers, singers and artists lived and worked. For this
        reason, the Plateau has been the main character in numerous songs, novels and
        movies, including Michel Tremblay and Yves Beauchemin's work. One of its
        obvious characteristic is that most appartement buildings are duplexes or
        triplexes (two or three stories high) and have outside stairs to the second
        floor (it's architectural trait of a lot of Montreal houses). Although you can
        find those in many other districts, there are mainly associated with the
        Plateau. This district is also the most densely populated district in Canada
        and, luckily, the district with the least number of cars in north america
        (bicycles are the prefered mode of transportation).

        The Plateau is a great place for interesting restaurants and cafés as well as
        for shopping. It's main commercial streets are St-Denis street north of Roy
        street, Mont-Royal ave. and St-Laurent blvd. (but you could say that St-Laurent
        blvd. is a neighbourhood in itself).There are guided tours every sunday morning
        organized by the district's tourism office starting from the Mont-Royal metro
        station at around 10:00am (call (514) 848-0099 for more information or visit
        their web site).

        The Plateau can be divided in three sections :

        the Mile-End district (in the north-west section of the Plateau) the
        neighbourhood featured in Mordicai Richler's novels and some fillms
        including "Leolo" and "Lies My Father Told Me". The Mile-End is technically
        part of the Plateau but it is quite different. It is more ethnically diverse,
        with an important hassidic community to the north-east (Jeanne-Mance and
        Esplanade streets north of Fairmount) and portuguese community (see St-Louis
        district). It is also influenced by the municipality of Outremont to the west
        since there are not many stores and no bars there so most people from Outremont
        shop and hangout in the western section of the Mile-End (some realtors selling
        condos and houses in this section describe it as "Outremont-adjacent"). The
        Mile-End's main streets are Bernard street (for cafes like Romolo cafe or le
        Futenbulle and a new restaurant called Brasileirinho), St-Viateur (for St-
        Viateur Bagel, Zorba or Arahova's souvlakis, many small restaurants like
        Découvrir le Sénégal, Le Jardin du Curry, etc and new terrasses and upscale
        food shops, it would seem that St-Viateur has become very -too? - popular
        recently), St-Laurent blvd and its cluster of about a dozen restaurants and
        other stores between Laurier and St-Viateur streets), du Parc ave. with its
        persian carpet stores and authentic greek restaurants (Milos, Psarotaverna du
        Symporium, Mythos Ouzeri, Rodos, etc). P.S. the south-west section of the Mile-
        End district, between Mont-Royal ave. and St-Joseph blvd., was also known as
        the Annex.
        the Plateau itself to to east (a good way to visit that part of the district is
        by using the bicycle path that goes from the corner of Cherrier and Berri
        streets then goes east to the Lafontaine park then north along Brébeuf and
        Christophe-Colomb to Laurier street). There's not much to see north-east of the
        corner of St-Joseph blvd. and St-Denis street, except for some small farm
        houses that seem to be the remnants of a small village around Berri street just
        north of Laurier street. The most interesting section are the streets around or
        close to the Lafontaine park (Mentana, Marie-Anne, Brébeuf, Chambord, etc). The
        main commercial streets are St-Denis street (gift shops and decorative object
        stores, lot's of restaurants and cafes, etc) and Mont-Royal ave. (it used to be
        a neighbourhood commercial street with everything-for-a-dollar stores and used
        record stores but it has changed the past few years, there are a lot more
        restaurants, cafes and upscale food stores).
        the St-Jean-Baptiste and St-Louis districts, a "transition" zone between the
        the latin quarter, the Mile-End (south east section of the Plateau) and the
        rest of the Plateau. It is quite varied in every sense since it takes from each
        neighbouring district. The portuguese community has many stores and cultural
        institutions in the north-western part of St-Jean-Baptiste (see Mile-End). The
        community's main church is on the corner of St-Urbain and Rachel and the "Parc
        du Portugal" is on the corner of Marie-Anne and St-Laurent blvd. Many
        portuguese restaurants and stores can be found around these places. Other well
        known spots are Duluth street and on St-Laurent blvd., the Balattou (live
        african and world beat music dance club) and Schwartz's deli (smoked meat) .
        I could add St-Laurent blvd. as a district in itself because of its distinctive
        features and importance. While St-Laurent was considered to separate the french
        community to the east and english community to the west (that line is now quite
        blurred), St-Laurent blvd. and its surroundings could be considered to be the
        center of an "international" zone between those two sections.
        Surrounding streets :
        des Pins ave. to the south
        Van Horne and Rosemont blvd. to the north
        Iberville to the east
        du Parc Ave. to the west
        Metro stations :
        Mont-Royal
        Laurier
      • Gość: NYSE2000 Montreal - The Mont-Royal park IP: *.sympatico.ca 05.04.02, 00:58
        The Mont-Royal park is a large park on the mount Royal (it's either a small
        mountain or a big hill depending on your point of view). The park was designed
        by Frederic Law Olmsted in 1872, the same man who designed Central Park in New
        York City. He wanted everyone, from rich to poor, to have direct access to
        nature because its "energizing" power. There are three summits, the south-east
        summit where you can find the Camillien-Houde belvedere, the cross, the main
        chalet and the lookout; the northern summit where the jewish and Mont-Royal
        protestant cemetery (in the Outremont district and the Notre-Dame-des-Neiges
        cemetery (in the Côte-des-Neiges district) can be found; the third summit is
        where the St-Joseph oratory and Westmount are located.

        There are many summer and winter activities taking place there. In the summer,
        you can hike (there are a lot of hiking paths around but stick to the well
        marked paths, there are other small paths made by people wandering around but
        this damages the forest and you can easily get lost or fall down a small cliff)
        or montain bike (same comment as for hiking, a lot of mountain bikers make
        their own paths with also causes damage). In winter, you can skate or slide
        near the Lac des Castors at the top of the mountain (just north of the lookout)
        or you can do some cross-country skiing or show-shoeing (there are many well
        maintained paths). There's also another place where you can slide at the corner
        of du Parc ave. and Mont-Royal ave.

        Mount Royal is also where you will find the best view of eastern and downtown
        Montreal : the Mont-Royal lookout and its beautiful chalet, if you want a great
        view of downtown and the south-shore, or the Camillien-Houde belvedere for a
        view of east Montreal (the Olympic stadium, the Jacques-Cartier bridge, etc).
        If you ever wanted a city at your feet, here's your chance. You can also see
        the cross, on the eastern part of the top of Mont-Royal (there's a path leading
        east from the lookout to the cross or start from the belvedere up the stairs
        then to your left). The story of the cross is as follows : there was a flood in
        1642 that was threatening the settlement of Ville-Marie (Montreal's first
        name), the leaders then prayed that if the flood receded, they would put up a
        cross on the Mont-Royal. The flood did recede and they put up the cross in
        1643. The present cross is obviously not the same cross but it's a reminder of
        the original event.

        There are many ways you can access the park :

        by foot : through downtown and the "stairs section" (there are four streets
        that lead to a dead end - Redpath, du Musée, de la Montagne and Drummond north
        of Docteur-Penfield - so to reach des Pins ave. you need to climb up the
        stairs, they also give a good view of downtown). The Redpath stairs are the
        nicest ones. Then walk up the path that starts near the Drummond stairs (not up
        Redpath crescent, that's a street) and once you reach the main path, you can
        either go right to the very long stairs (there's about 200 stairs to climb but
        it's the quickest way up and you'll be directly near the lookout) or go left,
        there's a long winding path that goes up, it's the slowest way but easiest on
        the legs (you'll arrive near the Lac des Castors, to go to the lookout just go
        to your right).
        by bus : from the Mont-Royal metro station, just take the 11 bus line west and
        you'll arrive at the top near the lookout, or take the 80 bus north from the
        Place-des-Arts metro station to Mont-Royal ave. then transfer to the 11 bus or
        take the 55 bus north from St-Laurent metro station to Mont-Royal ave. then
        transfer to the 11 bus.
        by car : if you are coming from downtown, take du Parc ave. north and just
        before Mont-Royal ave. turn right then go up to the intersection of Mont-Royal
        ave., Côte-Ste-Catherine and Camillien Houde road and turn right at the light
        (unless you are going to the Mont-Royal cemetery, then go up Mont-Royal ave.).
        You can first stop at the belvedere (there's a great view of Montreal's east
        section and part of the islands) or park at the top of Mount-Royal (it' not
        free though) you can then walk to the lookout. There's another way from the
        west through Remembrance road.

        P.S. People here call it "la montagne" (the mountain) for lack of a better word.

      • Gość: NYSE2000 What you need to know about Montreal's museums IP: *.sympatico.ca 05.04.02, 00:59
        Museum day : every year, the last weekend of May, there's a Journée des musées
        (museum day).. actually it's part of the international museum day. All the
        museums in Montreal are free that day and there's a free bus service from one
        museum to the other (it starts at the Info-Tourism office at Dorchester Square
        downtown, Peel metro station). But as you can expect, the most popular museums
        have very long lineups, so it's a good occasion to go to the ones you wouldn't
        pay to visit, there might be a few good surprises.

        Montreal museum pass : it's a card that gives you unlimited access to all the
        participating museums (at least 19 of them) over a certain limited period of
        time. There's a 1 day pass for $15 (or $30 for a family of four) and a 3 day
        pass for $28 ($60 for a family of four). So if you plan on visiting at least
        three of the participating museums, then you'll have saved some money (the more
        you visit, the more you save). You can buy it at the Info-Tourism office
        downtown, at the participating museums and at certain hotels. For more
        information (and a list of those museums), check out the OCTGM's web site.

        Most museums have rebates for large groups, call before (it's always a good
        idea to check if they can accomodate your group) or check out their web site.
        There's a list of Montreal museums with web sites in moreMontreal.com's museum
        section.

        Free museums and weekly rebates : there are a couple of free museums, there are
        usually small but still interesting. Here's a partial list of those museums :
        the Redpath museum (natural history and science).
        the Musée des Beaux Arts-Museum of Fine Arts's permanent collection (it is
        suggested that you make a donation).
        Saydie Bronfman Holocaust memorial.
        Centre de design de l'UQAM and the Institut de design de Montréal (graphical
        and industrial design).
        Bank of Montreal's museum (free museum about money...).
        Complexe Desjardins (small weekly exhibitions on various subject in the middled
        of the Complexe Desjardins shopping and office complex).
        Musée des Pompiers Auxiliaires de Montréal (auxiliary fireman museum).
        All the maisons de la culture, the UQAM and Concordia university art galleries
        and the commercial art galleries.
        Other museums have special rebates at certain times. The art museums (the Musée
        des Beaux Arts-Museum of Fine Arts and the Musée d'art contemporain for
        example, have a half-off night on Wednesdays and the McCord Canadian History
        Museum is free on Saturdays between 10:00am and 12:00noon.
      • Gość: NYSE2000 Museums divided by type, art, science, history, et IP: *.sympatico.ca 05.04.02, 01:00
        Art museums
        The best know Montreal art museum is the Musée des Beaux Arts-Museum of Fine
        Arts (Museum of Fine Arts) on Sherbrooke street. It has a medium size (free)
        permanent collection with some european and canadian artists and it puts up a
        few special exhibitions every year. The Musée d'art contemporain is also
        interesting for its temporary exhibitions. If you are a fan of cinema, then the
        Cinémathèque Québécoise and the National Film Board / Office Nationale du Film
        will be of interest to you (both are next to each other on the corner of St-
        Denis and de Maisonneuve blvd. in the latin quarter). For architects and those
        who appreciate architecture, the Centre Canadien d'Architecture-Canadian Center
        for Architecture has the largest collection of architecture-related material in
        the world, the building in itself is worth a look (and they have a great
        bookstore). If you are interested in design of everyday object (furniture,
        lamps, clothes, etc), then the Musée des arts décoratifs de Montréal is worth a
        look.
        Bibliothèque nationale du Québec (Quartier Latin)
        Centre Canadien d'Architecture-Canadian Center for Architecture (Downtown),
        cover all aspects of architecture and urban planning.
        Centre de design de l'UQAM (Quartier Latin), industrial and graphic design.
        Cinémathèque Québécoise (Quartier Latin), large collection of film and video
        related material.
        Espace Verre (Old Montreal), hand made glass art pieces.
        Galerie de l'UQAM (Quartier latin)
        Institut Goethe (Quartier Latin), german art and culture.
        Institut de design de Montréal (Old Montreal), showroom for the institute of
        design.
        Just For Laugh museum-Musée Juste pour rire (Quartier Latin), a humour and
        vaudeville museum.
        Leonard & Bina Ellen Art Gallery (Downtown)
        Musée Marc-Aurèle Fortin (Old Montreal)
        Musée d'art contemporain (Downtown), contemporary art museum.
        Musée des Beaux Arts-Museum of Fine Arts (Downtown), renaissance,
        impressionists, contemporary art, etc.
        Musée des arts décoratifs de Montréal (Downtown), everyday object design.
        National Film Board / Office Nationale du Film (Quartier Latin), the NFB's
        collection of films and documentaries. Check out the cinérobothèque.

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        History museums
        The most interesting museum that helps to understand Montreal's history is the
        Musée d'archéologie et d'histoire de Montréal-Pointe-à-Callière which was
        actually built over the spot where Montreal was founded, it's also where the
        cities first cemetary is located and the remnants of two buildings can be
        found, all in different layers. For a lighter look at Montreal's history,
        there's the Centre d'histoire de Montréal.
        Bank of Montreal's museum (Old Montreal), it's about money.
        Centre d'histoire de Montréal (Old Montreal), small and light museum of
        Montreal history from the beginning to the present.
        Chateau Ramezay (Old Montreal), presents life in the colonial times.
        Ecomusée du fier monde (Quartier Latin), sociological history of this working
        class neighbourhood.
        Lachine National Historic Site - Fur Trade (South-west)
        Maison Saint-Gabriel (South-west)
        Maison historique George-Etienne Cartier (Old Montreal), presents life in
        Montreal's victorian era.
        McCord Canadian History Museum (Downtown), native and canadian history museum.
        Musée d'archéologie et d'histoire de Montréal-Pointe-à-Callière (Old Montreal),
        shows the different layers of Montreal's history.
        Musée de la Police de l'Ile de Montréal et de l'Ile Bizard (Old Montreal)
        Musée des Pompiers Auxiliaires de Montréal (Plateau Mont-Royal), auxiliary
        fireman museum.
        Musée des hospitalières de l'Hôtel-Dieu-Hôtel-Dieu Hospital Museum (Downtown)
        Musée régimentaire des Fusiliers Mont-Royal (Quartier Latin)
        Saydie Bronfman Holocaust memorial (CDN-NDG)
        Stewart Museum at the Fort (Iles), history museum on the island with live
        military demonstrations.

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        Science museums
        One of the most interesting science museum is the Biodôme de Montréal which
        actually is four ecosystems at work. The Insectarium is also interesting for
        its very large collection of insects. For space and the stars, there's the
        Planétarium de Montréal-Dow Planetarium. There's also the new (as of 2000) iSci
        interactive science center in the old port of old Montreal.
        Biodôme de Montréal (Hochelaga-Maisonneuve), it shows four different working
        ecosystems.
        Biosphère (Iles), water ecosystem museum.
        Imax Theater (Old Montreal)
        Insectarium (Hochelaga-Maisonneuve), very large collection of insects from
        around the world, some live.
        Jardin Botanique de Montréal-Montreal Botanical Gardens (Hochelaga-
        Maisonneuve), large botanical gardens with chinese and japanese gardens.
        Maison de l'Arbre (Hochelaga-Maisonneuve), it's about trees.
        Musée des Ondes Emile Berliner (South-West)
        Planétarium de Montréal-Dow Planetarium (Downtown), space, the stars...
        Redpath museum (Downtown), natural history museum.
        iSci (Old Montreal), interactive science center.

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        Maisons de la culture
        Maison de la Culture Cote-des-Neiges (CDN-NDG)
        Maison de la Culture Frontenac (South-Central)
        Maison de la Culture Mercier (Hochelaga-Maisonneuve)
        Maison de la Culture Notre-Dame de Grace (CDN-NDG)
        Maison de la Culture Plateau Mont-Royal (Plateau Mont-Royal)

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        Religious museums
        Marguerite Bourgeois Museum (Old Montreal)
        Musée communautaire des Soeurs de Sainte-Croix (CDN-NDG)
        Musée des Soeurs Grises de Montréal-Marguerite d'Youville museum (Downtown)
        Musée des hospitalières de l'Hôtel-Dieu-Hôtel-Dieu Hospital Museum (Downtown)
        Oratoire St-Joseph (CDN-NDG), religious museum dedicated to Frère André.

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        Various museums and exhibitions
        The following list does not include actual museums, but they are public spaces
        that regularly shows different small exhibitions on various subject (art,
        hisroty, science). All these places are publicly accessible and are free. The
        most interesting exhibitions are at the Complexe Desjardins and are usually
        tied with a festival or other special events.
        Centre de commerce mondial-World Trade Center (Old Montreal), for its piece of
        the Berlin wall.
        Complexe Desjardins (Downtown), small weekly exhibitions on various subjects.
        Complexe Guy-Favreau (Downtown), for the garden...
        Olympic stadium's tower (Hochelaga-Maisonneuve), various exhibitions at the top
        of the tower.

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        • jot-23 Re: Museums divided by type, art, science, history, et 05.04.02, 04:15
          >w sumie montreal jest dosc ladny (jesli cokolwiek na tym kontynecie mozna
          >nazwac ladnym) ...


          nic dodac nic ujac, nastepny ...ehhh jak sie nazywal ten wiecznie
          niezadowolony w Smurfach???
          • ktoto3 Re: Museums divided by type, art, science, history, et 05.04.02, 04:28
            jot-23 napisał(a):

            > >w sumie montreal jest dosc ladny (jesli cokolwiek na tym kontynecie mozna
            > >nazwac ladnym) ...
            >
            >
            > nic dodac nic ujac, nastepny ...ehhh jak sie nazywal ten wiecznie
            > niezadowolony w Smurfach???

            "Jezdem" taki niezadowolony, ze tyz nie pamietam. Wiecej
            NYSE2000 to i Kanade zalatwimy.
            Uklony
          • Gość: boss Montreal - Indianie IP: *.tnt19.ewr3.da.uu.net 05.04.02, 04:33
            Bywam w Montrealu kilka razy do roku - urocze miasto ,mowia na nie amerykanski
            Paryz i to prawda. Pozatym polecam rezerwaty indian Irokezow na przedmiesciach
            tego miasta, oraz koniecznie wybranie sie na gore Mont - Royal skad jest
            wspanialy widok na miasto i okolice. Jak i zatoke sw. Wawrzynca. Przyjemnego
            pobytu zycze - ludzie sa mniej zalatani jak gdzie indziej na kontynencie
            amerykanskim.

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