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Piaskowy pozerca:(((!!

16.06.05, 21:42
..co mam zrobic..od 3 miesiecy mamy piaskownice na ogrodzie Kasper(19m)
bardzo ladnie sie w niej bawil i nie bylo problemow,od poniedzialku az boje
sie wypuscic go na podworko..chodzi o to ze zajada sie piaskiem..co jest
grane..nigdy sie tak nie zachowywal az tu nagle taki numer,aby sie dostanie
do piachu to lopatka albo rekami wsypuje sobie do buzi ,badz robi nura w
piach i buzia go nabiera..koszmar..zabronic mu wchodzic do piasku czy
co..znajoma mowi ze brakuje mu witamin..ale ja mu podaje witaminy w kinder
biovitalu oprocz normalnego(multi warzywnego) jedzonka...jaka moze by
przyczyna takiego zachowania????
Obserwuj wątek
    • ma.pi Re: Piaskowy pozerca:(((!! 16.06.05, 21:55
      Ja bym tez stawiala na brak jakis witamin lub mineralow.
      Spytaj lekarza.

      Pozdr.
      • ewika-uk Re: Piaskowy pozerca:(((!! 16.06.05, 22:03
        dzisiaj rano bylam z nim w GP,ale nasza p.doktor jak zwykle powiedziala ze
        przesadzam i wyslala mnie do domu..ze niby dzieci w jego wieku tak maja...co
        robic??
        • eballieu znam pozerce insektow 16.06.05, 22:11
          dziecko znajomych uwielbia sie bawic plastikowymi pajakami, zukami,
          skorpionami, zabami, itp.
          ostatnio zauwazyli ze jest na tyle przyjacielsko do nich nastawiony, ze w
          ogrodku jak zobaczy jakiegos insekta, to wklada go do buzi. I o dziwo juz z
          niej nie wyjmujesmile
          • ewika-uk Re: znam pozerce insektow 16.06.05, 22:40
            ..ooo to calkiem jak moje dziecko tylko ze moj na szczescie tylko piasek ...ale
            i tak sie obawiam zeby jakiegos swinstwa nie zalapal..niewiem co mam robic w
            tej sytuacji??
            • aliciap Re: znam pozerce insektow 16.06.05, 23:29
              to naprawde dziwne..... ipewnie jak powiedzial GP zadarza sie dzieciom w tym
              wieku ale jesli on siada i poprostu je ten pisaek to tez mysle ze czegos mu
              brakuje... niektore dzieci liza sciany...itd..
              chyba musisz mu przerwe zrobic w chodzeniu do piaskownicy i moze zapytac innego
              lekarza co moze byc przyczyna takiego zachowania dzieciaczka
              • ewika-uk Re: znam pozerce insektow 16.06.05, 23:38
                niestety moje dziecko nie nalezy do tych co usiedza w domu,od wczoraj mimo tak
                brzydkiej pogody musialam wypuscic go choc na chwile bo zaczynal po scianach
                chodzic..a konczylo sie na buzi pelnej piasku i wrzaskiem..bo mama zabiera mnie
                do domu..a ja chce zostac,czyli wycieralam buzie i bawil sie ladnie przez 30
                min,a pozniej to samo od nowa..a co bedzie dalej zobaczymy
    • asiakoz Re: Piaskowy pozerca:(((!! 26.06.05, 21:32
      haj pozdrawiam cie , ja mam w sumie ten sam problem tylko ze moj pozeracz
      piasku jest troche starszy dokladnie 2i 4 m-ce.No i co z tym zrobic to nie
      wiem,po prostu mnie sie wydaje ze dzieci w tym wieku ucza sie same jesc i
      poznawac co jest co po smaku zapachu i tak dalej.Wiadomo ze nie mozna na to
      pozwolic bo naprawde dziecko moze sie rozchorowac , musisz sprobowac nie
      zostawiac go samego w piaskownicy i caly czas zwracac mu uwage ze tego sie nie
      je az do skutku . u mnie to pomalu dziala. (nigdy nie bawic sie w "gotowanie i
      pieczenie "babek z piasku u mojego Michaela to wlasnie byl blad , dla niego
      byla to zabawa na serio.pozdrawiam Asia
      • ewika-uk Re: Piaskowy pozerca:(((!! 26.06.05, 23:12
        witaj!
        jak na razie wszystko wrocilo do normy i zaprzestal..ale na jak dlugo to nie
        wiem..natomiast zauwazylam ze zaczyna mi popijac wode z wanny podczas
        mycia..cuda..zreszta ciekawe czym jeszcze mnie zadziwi lub przerazi
        pozdrawiam
    • ewunia_uk Re: Piaskowy pozerca:(((!! 26.06.05, 22:06
      Moja Zosia tez miala taka faze, w wieku ok. poltora roku. Chodzimy czesto na
      plaze, a plaze u nas w Northumberland sa piekne, piaszczyste, wiec miala sie
      gdzie najesc wink Wydaje mi sie, ze musisz po prostu przeczekac, samo mu
      przejdzie. Ja Zoske oduczylam na zasadzie psow Pawlowa - jak tylko piach
      powedrowal do buzi, ja Zosie pod pache i wracamy do domu. W koncu poskutkowalo.
    • edytkus Re: Piaskowy pozerca:(((!! 27.06.05, 02:36
      Dzieci tak maja wink Moja ma prawie trzy lata i tez potrafi najesc sie nie tego co trzeba (wode przy kapieli
      doprawia szamponem). Ten watek przypomnial mi pewne zdarzenie wink), lata temu moj wtedy ok.
      dwuletni kuzynek zjadl robaczywe jablko:
      - ciociu, Kuba zjadl robaka!
      - to nic, troche mieska mu nie zaszkodzi
      • ewika-uk Re: Piaskowy pozerca:(((!! 27.06.05, 14:41
        niezly..przypomnialo mi sie jak kiedys moj brat mi opowiadal<matka do dziecka>
        - a co ty tam jesz?
        -mesko
        -a skad masz?
        -samo psypelzlo.........
        te dzieciaki sa takie cudne,ale czasami potrafia stracha narobic..oj
    • mgna Re: Piaskowy pozerca:(((!! 27.06.05, 23:47
      Na temat jedzenia piasku, moze tutaj sie czegos dowiesz:
      www.ukparents.co.uk/
      www.healthychild.net/articles/sh34sand.html
      • mgna Re: Piaskowy pozerca:(((!! 27.06.05, 23:51
        Czy piaskownice zamykasz kiedy jest nie uzywana? Koty lubia do piasku siusiac,
        wiec musisz ja zamykac bez znaczenia czy synek je piasek, czy nie.

        Przeczytaj rowniez ten artykul: www.emedicine.com/ped/topic1798.htm

        Pica is an eating disorder typically defined as the persistent eating of
        nonnutritive substances for a period of at least 1 month at an age in which
        this behavior is developmentally inappropriate (eg, >18-24 mo). The definition
        occasionally is broadened to include the mouthing of nonnutritive substances.
        Individuals presenting with pica have been reported to mouth and/or ingest a
        wide variety of nonfood substances, including, but not limited to, clay, dirt,
        sand, stones, pebbles, hair, feces, lead, laundry starch, vinyl gloves,
        plastic, pencil erasers, ice, fingernails, paper, paint chips, coal, chalk,
        wood, plaster, light bulbs, needles, string, and burnt matches.

        Although pica is observed most frequently in children, it is the most common
        eating disorder seen in individuals with developmental disabilities. In some
        societies, pica is a culturally sanctioned practice and is not considered to be
        pathologic. Pica may be benign, or it may have life-threatening consequences.

        In children aged 18 months to 2 years, the ingestion and mouthing of
        nonnutritive substances is common and is not considered to be pathologic.
        Consider pica when the behavior is inappropriate to the developmental level of
        the individual, is not part of a culturally sanctioned practice, and does not
        occur exclusively during the course of another mental disorder (eg,
        schizophrenia). If pica is associated with mental retardation or pervasive
        developmental disorder, it must be sufficiently severe to warrant independent
        clinical attention. In such patients, pica typically is considered to be a
        secondary diagnosis. Furthermore, the pica must last for a period of at least 1
        month.


        Pathophysiology: Pica is a serious behavioral problem because it can result in
        significant medical sequelae. The nature and amount of the ingested substance
        determine the medical sequelae. Pica has been shown to be a predisposing factor
        in accidental ingestion of poisons, particularly in lead poisoning. The
        ingestion of bizarre or unusual substances also has resulted in other
        potentially life-threatening toxicities, such as hyperkalemia following
        cautopyreiophagia (ingestion of burnt match heads).

        Exposure to infectious agents via ingestion of contaminated substances is
        another potential health hazard associated with pica, the nature of which
        varies with the content of the ingested material. In particular, geophagia
        (soil or clay ingestion) has been associated with soil-borne parasitic
        infections, such as toxoplasmosis and toxocariasis. Gastrointestinal (GI) tract
        complications, including mechanical bowel problems, constipation, ulcerations,
        perforations, and intestinal obstructions, have resulted from pica.


        Frequency:


        In the US: Prevalence of pica is unknown because the disorder often is
        unrecognized and underreported. Although prevalence rates vary depending on the
        definition of pica, the characteristics of the population sampled, and the
        methods used for data collection, pica is reported most commonly in children
        and in individuals with mental retardation. Children with mental retardation
        and autism are affected more frequently than children without these conditions.
        Among individuals with mental retardation, pica is the most common eating
        disorder. In this population, the risk for and severity of pica increases with
        increasing severity of mental retardation.
        Internationally: Pica occurs throughout the world. Geophagia is the most common
        form of pica in people who live in poverty and people who live in the tropics
        and in tribe-oriented societies. Pica is a widespread practice in western
        Kenya, southern Africa, and India. Pica has been reported in Australia, Canada,
        Israel, Iran, Uganda, Wales, and Jamaica. In some countries, Uganda for
        example, soil is available for purchase for the purpose of ingestion.
        Mortality/Morbidity:

        Ingestion of poisons: Lead toxicity is the most common type of poisoning
        associated with pica. Lead has neurologic, hematologic, endocrine,
        cardiovascular, and renal effects. Lead encephalopathy is a potentially fatal
        complication of severe lead poisoning, presenting with headache, vomiting,
        seizures, coma, and respiratory arrest. Ingestion of high doses of lead can
        cause significant intellectual impairment and behavioral and learning problems.
        Studies also have demonstrated that neuropsychologic dysfunction and deficits
        in neurologic development can result from very low lead levels, even levels
        once believed to be safe.
        Exposure to infectious agents: A variety of infections and parasitic
        infestations, ranging from mild to severe, are associated with the ingestion of
        infectious agents via contaminated substances, such as feces or dirt. In
        particular, geophagia has been associated with soil-borne parasitic infections,
        such as toxocariasis, toxoplasmosis, and trichuriasis.
        GI tract effects: GI tract complications associated with pica range from mild
        (eg, constipation) to life threatening (eg, hemorrhages secondary to
        perforations or ulcerations). Sequelae in the GI tract may include mechanical
        bowel problems, constipation, ulcerations, perforations, and intestinal
        obstructions caused by bezoar formation and the presence of undigestible
        materials in the intestinal tract.


        Direct nutritional effects: Theories regarding the direct nutritional effects
        of pica are related to characteristics of specific ingested materials that
        either displace normal dietary intake or interfere with the absorption of
        necessary nutritional substances. Examples of nutritional effects that have
        been linked to severe cases of pica include iron and zinc deficiency syndromes;
        however, the data are only suggestive, and no firm empirical data exist
        supporting these theories.
        Race: Although no specific data exist regarding racial predilection, the
        practice is reported to be more common among certain cultural and geographic
        populations. For example, geophagia is accepted culturally among some families
        of African lineage and is reported to be problematic in 70% of the provinces in
        Turkey.

        Sex: Pica typically occurs in equal numbers of boys and girls; however, it is
        rare in adolescent and adult males of average intelligence who live in
        developed countries.

        Age:

        Pica is observed more commonly during the second and third years of life and is
        considered developmentally inappropriate in children older than 18-24 months.
        Research suggests that pica occurs in 25-33% of young children and 20% of
        children seen in mental health clinics.
        A linear decrease in pica occurs with increasing age. Pica occasionally extends
        into adolescence but is rarely observed in adults who are not mentally
        disabled.
        Infants and children commonly ingest paint, plaster, string, hair, and cloth.
        Older children tend to ingest animal droppings, sand, insects, leaves, pebbles,
        and cigarette butts. Adolescents and adults most often ingest clay or soil.


        In young pregnant women, the onset of pica frequently occurs during their first
        pregnancy in late adolescence or early adulthood. Although the pica usually
        remits at the end of the pregnancy, it may continue intermittently for years.


        In individuals with mental retardation, pica occurs most often in those aged 10-
        20 years.

        • ewika-uk Re: Piaskowy pozerca:(((!! 28.06.05, 20:15
          dziekuje ci za ten matreial,bardzo sie przydalsmiledzieki
          co do piaskownicy to wlasnie kupilam taka szczelna z przykrywka na
          zatrzaski ,poniewaz wiem ze wieczorami koty sasiadow lubia sobie pobiegac po
          moim ogrodku,takze jesli juz przestal sie bawic zawsze zamykamsmilepozdrawiam i
          jeszcze raz dziekuje
          • mgna Re: Piaskowy pozerca:(((!! 28.06.05, 20:57
            Na koty jest jeszcze jeden sposob: w ogrodzie, pomiedzy roslinami, "posadz"
            szklanne butelki do gory nogami. Lub kup w ogrodniczym sklepie szklanne ozdoby
            do ogrodu. Rowniez jesli posadzisz prickly rosliny (jak np holly) lub
            rozsypiesz skorubki po jajkach koty nie beda przychodzily do twojego ogordu.
            • ewika-uk Re: Piaskowy pozerca:(((!! 28.06.05, 22:31
              z tym akurat sobie poradzilam,kiedy jeszcze nie bylo malucha,mialam piekne
              kwiaty, te kociaki przychodzily i najnormalniej na swiecie je wykopywaly,no i
              zostawialy po sobie..kocie odchody,juz myslalam ze oszaleje,wszysko bylo
              wykopane..az tesciowa poradzila mi zebym polala w tych miejscach denaturatem
              (bez szkody na kwiatkach)..no i problem sie skonczyl,no a teraz moje podworko
              sluzy tylko do przejscia do nastepnych sasiadow ,bo szkod nie
              zauwazylam..pozdrawiam
              • mgna Denaturat 28.06.05, 23:15
                Super pomysl, wyprobuje i w moim ogrodku!

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