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23.04.07, 23:48
Od pewnego czasu jej polska wersja stala sie ulubiona wyrocznia niektorych tu
pisujacych. Podpieraja sie wiki non-stop, zas angielskojezyczne zrodla
zbywaja milczeniem (w najlepszym przypadku) lub polemika.
O co chodzi? Dlaczego wikipedia, jak by nie bylo pisana przez wszystkich
majacych dostep do kompa, jest traktowana na powaznie, zas zrodla fachowe nie?
Czyzby bariera jezykowa?
Smieszy, tumani, przestrasza?

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    • waldek.usa PS 24.04.07, 00:05
      For family members, it is often the most difficult and painful decision they
      will face: to accept that a loved one - a parent, a spouse, perhaps a sibling -
      is technologically impaired and should no longer be allowed to live
      independently, or come near a computer or electronic device without direct
      supervision. The time has come to place that loved one into the care of an
      Assisted Computing Facility. But you have questions. So many questions.

      We at Silicon Pines want to help.

      WHAT EXACTLY IS AN "ASSISTED COMPUTING FACILITY"?

      Sometimes referred to as "Homes for the Technologically Infirm", "Technical
      Invalid Care Centers," or "Homes for the Technically Challenged," Assisted
      Computing Facilities (ACF's) are modeled on assisted living facilities, and
      provide a safe, structured residential environment for those unable to handle
      even the most common, everyday multi-tasks. Most fully accredited ACF's, like
      Silicon Pines, are an oasis of hope and encouragement that allow residents to
      lead productive, technologically-relevant lives without the fear and anxiety
      associated with actually having to understand or execute the technologies
      themselves.

      WHO SHOULD BE IN AN ACF?

      Sadly, technology is advancing at such a dramatic rate that many millions, of
      all ages, will never truly be able to understand it, putting an undue burden on
      those friends and family members who must explain it to them. But unless the
      loved one is suffering from a truly debilitating affliction, such as
      Reinstallzheimers, the decision to commit is entirely personal. You must ask
      yourself:

      "How frustrated am I that my parent/sibling/spouse is unable to open an email
      attachment?"

      "How much of my time should be taken up explaining how RAM is different from
      hard-drive memory?"

      "How many times can I bear to hear my dad say, 'Hey, can I replace the
      motherboard with a fatherboard? Ha ha ha!' "

      To make things easier, we have prepared a list of Warning Signs, which we
      encourage you to return to often, or, if you can't figure out how to bookmark
      it, print out. Also, please take a moment to read "I'm Glad I'm in Here! - A
      Resident's Story."

      MUST IT BE FAMILY, OR CAN I PLACE ANYONE IN AN ACF?

      Several corporations have sought permission to have certain employees, or at
      times entire sales departments, committed to ACFs.

      At present, however, individuals can be committed only by direct family or self-
      internment. The reason is simple: there are not nearly enough ACFs in the world
      to accommodate all the technologically-challenged. For example, there are
      currently only 860,000 beds available in ACFs, but there are 29 million AOL
      users.

      HOW MUCH WILL IT COST?

      ACF rents range from free up to $12,500 per month. The disparity is currently a
      point of contention in the ACF industry. Many residents are covered through
      government programs such as Compucaid or Compucare, but reimbursement rates are
      low and only cover a portion of the fees.

      Exacerbating the situation are the HMOs (HelpDesk Maintenance Organizations),
      which often deny coverage, forcing residents to pay out of pocket or turn to
      expensive private techcare insurers such as BlueCache/BlueScreen.

      Offsetting the costs are technology companies themselves, many of which
      subsidize ACFs. Firms such as Microsoft, Dell, Qualcomm, and America Online
      will pay up to 100 percent of a resident's monthly bill, but there is a catch.
      ISPs, for instance, require residents to sign service contracts lasting a year
      or more. Microsoft, meanwhile, prohibits the installation of any competitive
      software, while Priceline requires that residents buy shares of its stock,
      which seems onerous but saves residents on lavatory tissue.

      HOW OLD MUST I BE TO HAVE SOMEONE COMMITTED?

      Until very recently, you had to be 18 or older to legally commit a family
      member. However, the now famous British court case Frazier vs. Frazier and
      Frazier has cleared the way for minors to commit their parents. In that case,
      15-year-old Bradley Frazier of Leicester had his 37-year-old parents committed
      to an ACF in Bournemouth after a judge ruled Ian and Janet Frazier were
      a "danger to themselves and the community." According to court records, Bradley
      told his parents about the I LoveYou virus and warned them not to click
      attachments, then the next day his parents received an I LoveYou email and
      clicked on the attachment because, they explained, "it came from someone we
      know."

      WHAT SHOULD I LOOK FOR IN AN ACF?

      First, make sure it's a genuine Assisted Computing Facility, and not an
      Assisted Living Facility. To tell the difference, observe the residents. If
      they look rather old and tend to openly discuss bowel movements, this is
      probably "assisted living." On the other hand, if they vary in age and say
      things like, "I'm supposed to figure that out? I'm not Bill goddamned Gates you
      know!," this is probably "assisted computing."

      Also, at a well-run ACF, residents should lead full, independent lives, and
      should be allowed the use of many technology devices, including telephones,
      electric toothbrushes, and alarm clocks. However, only a facility's Licensed
      Techcare Professionals (LTPs) should perform computational or technological
      tasks such as installing programs or saving email attachments. And LTPs should
      NEVER answer residents' questions because studies have shown that answering
      user questions inevitably makes things worse. Instead, residents should simply
      have things done for them, relieving them of the pressure to "learn"
      or "improve."

      CAN A RESIDENT EVER GET OUT?

      No.

      OK, THIS SOUNDS PROMISING. HOW CAN I LEARN MORE?

      For your enlightenment, we offer extensive information on Silicon Pines and the
      ACF lifestyle, which can be found by clicking one of the links in the
      navigation bars found at both the top and bottom of this page. But whatever you
      decide, keep in mind that due to demand, ACFs now have long waiting lists.
      WebTV & AOL users alone will take years to absorb.

      We look forward to your response. Thank you.
    • unaswameryce Re: Wikipedia. 24.04.07, 00:06
      waldus a sprawdz ino w tych swoich fachowych zrodlach jak sie pisze 'szacunek' nie zebym sie specjalnie burzył z tego powodu bo sam robie mase bykow ale zeby sobie w sygnaturce takiego kanolda walnać?
      • kwiatek_leona Re: Wikipedia. 24.04.07, 00:12
        Toz to wierny cytat z piosenki "Bal na Gnojnej" Grzesiuka!

        Nieprzespanej nocy znojnej
        Jeszcze mam na ustach ślad.
        U Grubego Joska przy ulicy Gnojnej
        Zebrał się ferajny kwiat.
        Bez jedzenia i bez spania
        Byle byłoby co pić
        Kiedy na harmonii Feluś zaiwania
        Trzeba tańczyć trzeba żyć!

        Harmonia na trzy czwarte z cicha rżnie
        Ferajna tańczy wszystko z drogi!
        Z szaconkiem bo się może skończyć źle
        Gdy na Gnojnej bawimy się.

        Kto zna Antka czuje mojrę
        Ale jeden nie znał jej -
        I naraził się dlatego na dintojrę
        Skończył się z przyczyny tej.
        Jak latarnie blado świcą
        Smętnie gwiżdże nocny stróż
        A kat Maciejewski tam pod szubienicą
        Na Antosia czeka już.

        Harmonia na trzy czwarte z cicha łka
        Ferajna tańczy ja nie tańczę.
        Dlaczegóż bal na Gnojnej jak co dnia
        Gdy mnie jednej pary dziś brak.
      • blotniarka.stawowa Nie pisze sie z szaconkiem, z szaconkiem sie 24.04.07, 00:13
        slucha!

        Harmonia tango na trzy-czwarte rznie
        Ferajna tanczy - na bok! z drogi!
        Z szaconkiem bo sie moze skonczyc zle
        Kiedy na Gnojnej bawimy sie.
        • kwiatek_leona Re: Nie pisze sie z szaconkiem, z szaconkiem sie 24.04.07, 00:15
          Szaconek Blotniarko smile))
          • blotniarka.stawowa Re: Nie pisze sie z szaconkiem, z szaconkiem sie 24.04.07, 00:23
            kwiatek_leona napisała:

            > Szaconek Blotniarko smile))

            Chyba za ten spozniony refleks? smile Dzieki, Kwiatku!
      • waldek.usa Teraz juz wiesz? 24.04.07, 00:24
        Zapoznaj sie z przemijajaca kultura - chociazby w wiki, bo na Warszawiaka to
        nie pasujesz.
        • unaswameryce Re: Teraz juz wiesz? 24.04.07, 00:28
          nie jestem warszawiakiem tylko slazakiem
          • harlista Re: Teraz juz wiesz? 24.04.07, 01:35
            Ślązak ?

            nonsensopedia.wikia.com/wiki/%C5%9Al%C4%85zak
          • kwiatek_leona Re: Teraz juz wiesz? 24.04.07, 05:04
            Jak jestes Slazakiem to daje Ci kilka dodatkowych punktow (bo lubie Slazakow).
            Ale nie ma wymowki na to, zeby nie znac "Na Gnojnej", chyba ze masz dwadziescia
            kilka lat a i to z trudem...


          • za_morzem Re: Teraz juz wiesz? 24.04.07, 06:24
            Grzesiuk sie klania...
            a kultury juz niestety nie ma...
          • jp.hi Re: Teraz juz wiesz? 24.04.07, 06:46
            fragment Grzesiuka
            prm.pl/mp3/10402-1%20Grzesiuk%20Stanislaw%20-%20Nie%20masz.mp3
            unaswameryce nie badz lebiega! smile
      • tato1 Re: Wikipedia. 24.04.07, 05:18
        unaswameryce napisał:

        > waldus a sprawdz ino w tych swoich fachowych zrodlach jak sie
        pisze 'szacunek'
        > nie zebym sie specjalnie burzył z tego powodu bo sam robie mase bykow ale
        zeby
        > sobie w sygnaturce takiego kanolda walnać?

        ...........waldus to sub kultura.........
        wyrwal sie chopczyna zelsi na miasto a ty go krytykujesz............
        • waldek.usa Re: Wikipedia. 24.04.07, 19:35
          tato1 napisał:

          >
          > ...........waldus to sub kultura.........
          > wyrwal sie chopczyna zelsi na miasto a ty go krytykujesz............

          ► tato, jedyna okolicznosc lagodzaca to to, ze chlejesz i nicki ci sie
          myla. Inaczej bys powyzszej glupoty nie splodzil...
        • nadau Re: Wikipedia. 24.04.07, 19:45
          To nie jest błędna, bez polskich znaków diaktrycznych, pisownia "szacónek"
          zamiast "szacunek"
          To jest "szaconek" - rodem z gwary warszawskiej.

    • mlody771 Re: Wikipedia. 24.04.07, 00:58
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Money_MastersCIEKAWE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • luiza-w-ogrodzie Re: Wikipedia. 24.04.07, 07:27
      Waldek, to chyba dlatego, ze Wiki jest latwa, lekka i przyjemna i nie trzeba
      szukac w wielu miejscach - wszystko jest w Wiki a jesli nie ma, to mozna
      dopisac :oP
      • waldek.usa O niewinna naiwnosci! 24.04.07, 19:45
        luiza-w-ogrodzie napisała:

        > Waldek, to chyba dlatego, ze Wiki jest latwa, lekka i przyjemna i nie trzeba
        > szukac w wielu miejscach - wszystko jest w Wiki a jesli nie ma, to mozna
        > dopisac :oP

        ► Zgadzam sie, jakkolwiek zdumiewajace jest powodzenie wikipedii wobec
        formalnego wyksztalcenia.
        Wiki przypomina mi owe prl-skie (a i obecne tez) prace magisterskie i
        doktoranckie - kompilacje cala geba.

        A na koniec:

        tinyurl.com/3xp6ph
        Looks familiar?
    • nadau Re: Wikipedia. 24.04.07, 19:42
      No nie jest tak źle, Waldziu.
      Możesz np. zobaczyć tam swoich przodków.

      Prawda, że podobni?


      pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafikatongue_outolish_berry_pickers.jpg
      • waldek.usa Tow. nasrau, nie pokazujcie nam waszego 24.04.07, 19:49
        albumu rodzinnego, tylko dlatego, ze wolno wam przynosic do pracy fotografie
        rodzicow. Lepiej ladujcie komorke.

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