Goody baddy

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Have any of you been following this uproarious episode of so-called celebrity
Big Brother in the UK?

One of the female contestants, a so-called celebrity who has nothing in her
CV but being a dental nurse and winning an earlier Big Blither round, that
and - ironically - sponsoring a charity called Act Against Bullying, has now
been kicked off for having gone over the top in her racial slurs against an
Indian contestant, Shilpa Shetty, who is probably the only one in there who
actually qualifies as having any internationally recognisable celebrity
status and for continually bullying her and making other playground denizens
gang up against her.

This became the overshadowing issue during Scotsman Gordon Broon's visit to
India last week, and when asked what he was going to do about it, he
addressed the British people and said "a vote for Britain is a vote for
tolerance", and so Jade Goody got voted off, and begged to have a special
eviction ceremony just among friends, as she was afraid that Indians might
turn up and jeer her if she had one of the usual public evictions. So Gordon
managed to get the votes, and therefore the financing of this crappy show, up
to record levels, showing what he would be capable of if called upon to run
the country. Jade Goody gets a mention in the next Queen's speech as a
definite baddy, and becomes the first person on the New Year's dishonours
list, at which the Duke of Edinburgh will publicly berate her for upsetting
Johnny Foreigner, and when the media are gone nudge her in the ribs and
say "but just between you and me, young lady, jolly good show!".

Charity had the last laugh though, as channel Four decided to give the
proceeds of the phone vote to them, thereby reducing the things that Gordon
Broon needs to do with our taxes. The saving can go towards ministerial
salaries.

[mafketis]

The very little I've been following this (I used an article about it in
translation class) I think racism as such played a relatively minor role.
I think that class (the gap between the sophisticated Indian and chavish locals)
and female mind games (a group ganging up on a prettier rival) were the real
culprits.
In other words I don't think they decided they didn't like her because she's
Indian, but they decided they didn't like her and then used the most obvious
point of difference (her being Indian) to express that dislike. Not very
edifying (or wise, with cameras running) but human enough.

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Simon Heffer also stated that he thought it was class rather than racism. And
considering that Jade Goody is dark enough to be able to pass in India as one
of the lighter locals after taking the tan, colour itself is maybe not the
major aspect to it. But nevertheless she did make repearted slights about India
and Indians, and called Shilpa "Shetty poppadom" and said that Indians couldn't
make food properly (which is a laugh - that's my favorite food, actually) and
refused to say Shilpa properly. Also always called her "the Indian". Now had
she had a German there and done similar things, would that have been racism or
not? It certainly would have been bigoted behaviour, but people would not have
used the term "racism", in that case.

Nevertheless, she behaved in a bad way, and her career is over now. She can go
back to Bermondsey and work on a market stall.

[ianek70]

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> Simon Heffer also stated that he thought it was class rather than racism. And
> considering that Jade Goody is dark enough to be able to pass in India as one
> of the lighter locals after taking the tan, colour itself is maybe not the
> major aspect to it. But nevertheless she did make repearted slights about
India

Most commentators commented that class and culture differences (or ignorance
about these differences) were the main sources of conflict. But it was the
racist element that was picked up on.
Racism is a terrible thing, and a serious allegation, but there's too much
sensitivity about it, it overshadows everything else.
Shetty is clearly a pampered posh girl, a megastar in a land where there's
still too much poverty. The comment about her being "adored in the slums"
wasn't racist, but has been quoted a lot as proof of anti-Indian sentiment or
whatever. She's glamorous and provides escapism for the poor. Is it anti-
American to ask "How many millionaires watched Dallas or Dynasty?"
Goody admitted when she got voted out that she'd been bitchy and was a bit
ashamed of how she'd treated Shetty, but denied being racist.
Later, they showed her clips of supposedly racist comments, and she said, well,
maybe that was a bit racist.
They didn't get her to comment on her bitchiness, inverted snobbery, ignorance,
jealousy or anything, just on the racist aspect.
If you childishly make fun of a French accent, can black Frenchmen accuse you
of racism? And white ones? And an Indian accent?

Newspapers this week are full of Asian columnists saying it's good to see this
displayed openly, rather than hidden. Non-whites can say "This is how some
people treat us", whites can say "I don't talk like that" or "if I say that, it
really means this." On-line polls show 65% of people think the racism's been
exaggerated. Media people can continue to make money by discussing the role of
the media. Normal people discuss female bitchiness.

And with Goody gone, Shilpa's cleavage is now competing with Danielle's.

Did this India princess expect special treatment?

[waldek1610]

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> Have any of you been following this uproarious episode of so-called celebrity
> Big Brother in the UK?
>
> One of the female contestants, a so-called celebrity who has nothing in her
> CV but being a dental nurse and winning an earlier Big Blither round, that
> and - ironically - sponsoring a charity called Act Against Bullying, has now
> been kicked off for having gone over the top in her racial slurs against an
> Indian contestant, Shilpa Shetty, who is probably the only one in there who
> actually qualifies as having any internationally recognisable celebrity
> status and for continually bullying her and making other playground denizens
> gang up against her.

Whille there's no excuses for rasism, byllying is not quite the same category.
Byllying is everywhere where there's large group of young people trying to get
ahead. Byllying happens even where there's only one ethnic group, so it has
nothing to do with rasism, although it is in fact negative thing.

Still, I'm thinking what this Indian actress expected from taking part in this
Big Brother show? Did she expect she's going to be treated the way she is
treated back in India, where she has several servants just waiting to fullfill
her wishes, and dozens of fans who wait outside the gate of ther mansion just
to see her pretty face? Come on this is reality show, not some feudal society
for rich spoiled princesses.

[varsovian]

Most importantly, Shilpa was stunningly attractive!

Jade was the proverbial loud-mouthed slapper who suffered from a chronic case
of English working-class inverted snobbery. There is a veritable plague of them
in England. I hope we never see the likes of Jade again, except in a programme
entitled "Where are they now?".

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varsovian napisał:

> Most importantly, Shilpa was stunningly attractive!
>
> Jade was the proverbial loud-mouthed slapper who suffered from a chronic case
> of English working-class inverted snobbery. There is a veritable plague of
them
>
> in England. I hope we never see the likes of Jade again, except in a
programme
> entitled "Where are they now?".

It will be interesting to see if she manages to achieve any forgiveness, having
been on various programmes expressing tearful remorse, or whether she will be a
pariah for ever. The idea that the things she has done are an unforgiveable sin
isn't healthy either. In the end there has to be reconciliation.

And she won!.She won!

[tjbazuka]

Oh my goodness.
The 31-year-old shrieked with joy on hearing she had won the PUBLIC vote.
Well done UK. What a country.
PS: I wonder what would happen if she didn't win??

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tjbazuka napisał:

> Oh my goodness.
> The 31-year-old shrieked with joy on hearing she had won the PUBLIC vote.
> Well done UK. What a country.
> PS: I wonder what would happen if she didn't win??

In that case, we would have been a nation of bigots. Leo Sayer was quite right
to leave when he did.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX12ua-eHmk

[kylie1]

I would never go on a show like this to begin with. Reality TV is for the masses
and unfortunately it's a pretty lame form of entertainment. I am still unsure
about the premise of this show but I can't understand why he didn't clue in
sooner? How many days did it take him to figure out that no one will be doing
his laundry for him? Not that it would kill him nonetheless.

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I think Leo Sayer was an example of "character is destiny" to quote Heraclitus.
Look at the lyrics to one of his early songs (the words are his and the Music,
if you remember it, was by David Courtney):

[quote]

Baby, although I chose this lonely life
It seems it's strangling me now
All the wild men, big cigars, gigantic cars
They're all laughing at me now
Oh I've been used
I've been taken for a fool, oh what a fool
I broke all the rules
But I won't let the show go on
Baby look there's an enormous crowd of people
And they're all after my blood
I wish maybe they'd tear down the walls
Of this theatre and let me out, let me out
Oh I've been so blind
I've wasted time
Wasted, wasted, oh so much time
Walking on the wire, high wire
But I won't let the show go on

[Scat verse]
Oh I've been so blind
I've wasted time
Wasted, wasted, oh so much time
Walking on the wire, high wire
But I won't let the show go on
Baby I wish you'd help me escape
And help me get away
Leave me outside my address
Far away from this masquerade
I've been so used I've been so abused
I've been a fool I broke all the rules
I've been so used oh and abused
But I won't let the show go
I said I won't let the show oh
Won't let the show go on

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Prophetic, eh?

[kylie1]

"I've been so used I've been so abused".

Feeling a little sorry for himself maybe? I heard he acted pretty weird on that
show but I can't really comment on it because I haven't seen a single episode of
Big Brother. I don't know what Leo is like but I know I really like his music a lot.

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It would appear that character-wise he has been a prima-donna with a
persecution complex and a taste for show-sabotage since the earlier days, and
that now, at the autumn of his career, it is a characteristoc that has really
come to the fore.