BUSH na wykrywaczu kłamstw

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Widzieliście Busha na wykrywaczu kłamstw ? Piękny widok ! Czy zaczniemy
oglądać telewizję z wykrywaczem kłamstw na kolanach ? Albo jeszcze lepiej
obserwować na ekranie wykres razem z politykami ? Co za czasy !

Podsumujmy Busha:

- Wydatki rządowe w ciągu 3 lat wzrosły o 30%
- Bezrobocie liczone z tymi którzy przestali szukać pracy ok. 10% (mimo
ożywienia bezrobocie nie spada)
- Wojna w Iraku (pierwsza niesprowokowana wojna USA) wywołana na kłamstwach.
Rezultatów brak
- Zadłużenie rządu , firm i konsumentów rośnie 7 razy szybciej niż PKB. Ilość
zer w tym rachunku jest tak duża że nikomu to nic nie mówi
- Raport o zobowiązaniach rządu wobec społeczeństwa (44 biliony $) schowany
głęboko do szuflady
- Dolar spadł już o 40% stosunku do Euro. Zapowiedzi są na drugie tyle.
- Domy amerykanów są zadłużone na ok. 65%. W większości w rządowych
agencjach - Fanie Mae i Mac
- Ilość bankructw kredytobiorców cały czas rosnie
- Jedyne co rośnie to giełda ale tylko i wyłącznie z pieniędzy z kredytów.
Jeśli ktoś nie wie to przypomnę że krachy są wtedy kiedy duża grupa
inwestorów musi szybko sprzedać akcje.

Pytanie czy taka sytuacja utrzyma się do wyborów. Jeśli giełda tąpnie to już
po Bushu.

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Gość portalu: pawel-l napisał(a):

> Widzieliście Busha na wykrywaczu kłamstw ? Piękny widok ! Czy zaczniemy
> oglądać telewizję z wykrywaczem kłamstw na kolanach ? Albo jeszcze lepiej
> obserwować na ekranie wykres razem z politykami ? Co za czasy !
>
> Podsumujmy Busha:
>
> - Wydatki rządowe w ciągu 3 lat wzrosły o 30%
> - Bezrobocie liczone z tymi którzy przestali szukać pracy ok. 10% (mimo
> ożywienia bezrobocie nie spada)
> - Wojna w Iraku (pierwsza niesprowokowana wojna USA) wywołana na kłamstwach.
> Rezultatów brak
> - Zadłużenie rządu , firm i konsumentów rośnie 7 razy szybciej niż PKB. Ilość
> zer w tym rachunku jest tak duża że nikomu to nic nie mówi
> - Raport o zobowiązaniach rządu wobec społeczeństwa (44 biliony $) schowany
> głęboko do szuflady
> - Dolar spadł już o 40% stosunku do Euro. Zapowiedzi są na drugie tyle.
> - Domy amerykanów są zadłużone na ok. 65%. W większości w rządowych
> agencjach - Fanie Mae i Mac
> - Ilość bankructw kredytobiorców cały czas rosnie
> - Jedyne co rośnie to giełda ale tylko i wyłącznie z pieniędzy z kredytów.
> Jeśli ktoś nie wie to przypomnę że krachy są wtedy kiedy duża grupa
> inwestorów musi szybko sprzedać akcje.
>
> Pytanie czy taka sytuacja utrzyma się do wyborów. Jeśli giełda tąpnie to już
> po Bushu.

Pozwol ,ze przetlumacze to co napisales na polski.
1-Niech wreszcie ta gielda padnie,bo nie moge na Busha patrzec!
2-RODACY,nie wyjezdzajcie do USA,bo w Polsce jest lepiej.
3-W Stanach jest az 5,7% bezrobocia,a w Polsce tylko 17,8%.
4-TO JEST NIEUCZCIWE ZE W STANACH MOZNA DOSTAC KREDYT NA 5%,A W POLSCE NA 15%.
5-Niech wreszcie Stany wprowadza taki sam system zarzadzania gospodarka jaki
jest w Polsce,BO JUZ NIE MOGE NA TO PATRZEC!!!!!!!!!!

BUSK KLAMIE A AMERYKANIE TO ZBANKRUTOWANE SWINIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dobra, dobra

[pit_b]

Teorie teoriami, ale jakie sa fakty? Czy rosnie liczba bankructw kredytobiorcow?

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pit_b napisała:

> Teorie teoriami, ale jakie sa fakty? Czy rosnie liczba bankructw
kredytobiorcow ?

Ja ich tam liczyc nie zamierzam,ale slyszalem,ze w 3 Q 2003 byl wzrost GDP o
8,2%,a w grudniu spadlo bezrobocie z 5,9 na 5,7%.

[pit_b]

Nie o to sie pytalem.

Dobre :o))))

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Amerykanie zacznijcie uciekac do Polski z tej waszej ruiny gospodarczej :o)))

Ze tez ci sie nie znudzilo pawele-l ?

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Pieprzysz farmazony. Wkolo Macieju to samo.
Brzmi to juz jak belkot pijanego marynarza.

Mamy 12 stopni mrozu i jest zimno jak cholera. Nie do wytrzymania.
Ktos zasmieje sie szyderczo mowiac " amy w Polsce mamy po 30 stopni mrozu".
Ale wasz mroz jest suchy a nasz wilgotny i dlatego taki bolesny.

Globalne ocieplenie.

PS. Tez sobie ulzylem i napisalem kilka bzdur. Aha, to wina Busha.
Tu u nas wszystko jest wina Busha, mroz, deszcz, pozar, wsciekle krowy a jutro
snieg.
Klaniam sie unizenie.

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Żeby wam jeszcze dołożyć trochę prognoz na przyszłość:

October 2003 issue
(October 3, 2003)
WAVE INTERPRETATION FOR GOLD
.Gold and silver are holding near their highs for the year. Yet the record
disparity between the long
speculators and the short commercials (see latest EWFF) in gold futures is an
extreme reading that
emphatically argues in favor of keeping one.s powder dry with respect to the
precious metals. The
sentiment readings, more strongly than ever, support the .bear market rally.
interpretation. Within that
picture, gold is in wave (5) of C of an A-B-C rally that began four years ago.
So I still look for
another bear market wave to follow..
After gold bottomed near $250, The Elliott Wave Theorist outlined a case for a
bear market rally to
$360. It took a long time to rise to that level, but it happened. In June,
though, I noted that gold had rallied
about $30 further than would be expected based on the ongoing wave count for
the bear market in which
wave x was a triangle. Though that labeling has served us well for many years
(see the special report on gold
in the February 2001 EWT*), it has become suspect.
Back in the late 1980s, I explained that the A-B-C advance from 1982 to 1987
could be labeled a flat
correction (see text, p.45) with a truncated (see text, p.34) wave C. Since
truncations are rare, it was an
alternative labeling. But the A-B-C advance
of the past four years looks very similar to
that formation. The respective quantities
within each wave are different, making one a
flat and the other a zigzag, but the internal
forms are nearly the same. I think these two
waves are .cousins.. The accompanying chart
therefore labels each sequence . marked with
brackets . as a countertrend rally labeled x.
(This labeling also has the virtue of eliminating
the exceptionally short wave E required for
the triangle count.)
As long as the current rally comprises five
waves and ends somewhere between here and
the low 400s, I will be comfortable with this
as the best interpretation of the wave structure.
The implied forecast is essentially the same
as it has been all along: Another major decline
is due over the next few years to finish off the
bear market. The only difference is that instead
of a single wave of decline, we should get
another A-B-C to finish off a .triple zigzag.
pattern (see text, p.42) from the all-time high.
*For new subscribers, back issues are available for $19; just call customer
service at EWI (770-536-0309).
You can always get The Elliott Wave Theorist instantly upon release; for
information, visit www.elliottwave.com.
. The Elliott Wave Theorist, September 11, 2003
The Elliott Wave Theorist

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Finance
.Stock markets around the world will continue to fall. Ultimately, the averages
will drop more than 90
percent.
.Real estate values will fall more than they did in the 1930s and 1940s.
.Rating services will resume the trend of downgrading bond quality. Eventually,
states, counties,
cities, corporations and even nations will default on bonds in record amounts.
.Debt packages made of mortgage-backed bonds, auto loans and credit card debt
will become viewed
as unworthy investments.
.Many, if not most, pension plans will fall in value and be unable to provide
the promised benefits.
Anger over this development will result in demonstrations, violence and tardy
and ineffective political reform.
.Prices for collectibles will continue to fall. Many will become little more
than curios.
.More banks will fail than failed in the 1930s.
.The total amount of credit outstanding worldwide will decline substantially.
.The Federal Reserve chairman will be labeled a fool who is greatly responsible
for the collapse.
.The dollar will lose its place as the world.s reserve currency. Either gold, a
currency backed by gold
(such as the Islamic dinar), or the Chinese yuan will take its place.
.The Federal Reserve System will be discredited and then abolished.
..The rich. will be vilified, and their property will be increasingly taxed and
seized.
.Regulatory and legislative reforms will limit, curtail or ban a number
of structures facilitating
speculation, such as options, futures, margin lending, hedge funds, mutual
funds, IRAs and 401Ks.
.Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will shut down.
.Financial news networks will change formats or go off the air.
.Despite attempted manipulation by OPEC or any other nations, the world price
of oil will decline.
(An exception may occur if production facilities are destroyed or shipping
halted during wartime.)
.The .debt forgiveness. movement in the third world will eventually move to
developed countries and
see many of its goals realized.

.The price/earnings ratio for the S&P will hit single digits (probably falling
below 6), while the annual
dividend yield on the Dow and S&P will rise into double digits (probably rising
above 17 percent).
.Market timing will come to be viewed as the best approach to investing in
stocks, although investing
in stocks in the first place will be considered foolhardy. .Buy and hold. will
be denounced as a flawed and
foolish approach to the stock market.
.The demographic argument for a continued boom fueled by baby boomer spending
and retirement
savings will be transformed (somewhere near the bottom of the decline) into an
argument that the same
portion of the population will be responsible for a continued bust.
.Many of the governments and corporate entities that have been bailed out by
the U.S. government
and the IMF over the course of the last 34 years will fail again, along with
new ones. The IMF, World Bank,
the Fed and other financing entities will not bail them out.
. The IMF, World Bank and the United Nations will be shut down.
.Existing high-yield .junk. bonds will fall to zero, and new ones will no
longer be issued.
.After a period of exclusively derisive and negative popular allusions to the
stock market, references
to stocks in non-financial settings will become all but non-existent.
.Countless difficulties attending the above events will occur.
.Bearish speculators will make a lot of money, and safety-minded investors will
see their purchasing
power rise.

The Economy
.The trend toward economic contraction that began in 2001 will continue to
develop into a depression.
.The unemployment rate in the U.S. and in most countries around the world will
rise and eventually
exceed 25 percent.
.A record number of manufacturing companies in the U.S. will fail.
.Countries will adopt numerous trade restrictions, import taxes and other
protectionist measures.
.Consumer confidence will fall to record low levels.
.The number of new skyscrapers will decline dramatically.
.Affordable housing will become difficult to come by. Family members will move
in with each other.
Homelessness will increase.
.China will have a severe economic setback along with the rest of the world,
but it will be a .wave 2,.
from which the country will emerge as the economic leader of the world.
Politics
.George W. Bush, as we have said since his election and through his highest
popularity ratings, will
lose the 2004 election, probably in a landslide.
.A Democrat will be the next president. (I think it will be Hillary Clinton,
currently not a candidate.)
.Many of the entities that were privatized or .de-regulated. during the bull
market will be re-nationalized
and re-regulated. (A less-likely but possible alternative is that many
regulatory agencies will be abolished.)
.Wave (a) of the bear market in social mood will bedevil more than one
president.
.The occupation of Iraq by the U.S. will progress from a quagmire to a
financial, political and public
relations disaster.
.Terrorists will attack the U.S. again, more severely than on 9/11/01, probably
within the next 18
months.
. Separatist movements will gain momentum. Many will successfully establish new
geopolitical entities.
.Fears about technology will lead to restrictions on its development.
.Politics will become far more polarized, splintered and radical.
.Social Security in its current form will fail.
.The U.S. will threaten and possibly attack more countries. More countries will
oppose U.S. interests.
.The Third World War, which began on 9/11/01, will escalate.
.The U.S. will increase restrictions on immigration.

.The U.S. will require internal travel papers.
.Both patriotism and anti-government sentiment will grow into powerful
emotional forces.
.Openness and transparency will give way to secrecy. Spies and exclusive social
organizations will
have increased standing and power.
.The U.S. will accelerate its trend toward socialism. Opposition to that trend
will be vigorous.
.Suspicion or hatred of foreigners will increase around the globe.
.Nations will tend away from liberal, representative governments and toward
dictatorships.
.The Drug War will turn more violent. Eventually, possession and sale of
recreational drugs will be
decriminalized.
.Government will ration goods and services in which it is or becomes involved
(such as gasoline,
vaccines, medical care, electricity, water, food, etc.).
.International travel will be restricted, whether by statute or dangerous
conditions.
.The U.S. and state governments will finish their takeover and demolition of
the medical industry.
.Third parties will gain political clout and win local elections. Libertarians,
greens and others will
capture many local offices and probably at least one state government.
.At least one of the two major parties will disappear or re-form.
Other Social Trends
.Social groups, including economic, political, religious, genders and classes,
will polarize and splinter
.The birth rate will continue to fall in the U.S. and Europe until the bear
market in social mood (as
.Religion will become increasingly popular. Its advocates will become
increasingly passionate.
further. I.e., they will polarize both internally and with respect to opposing
groups.
indicated by the downtrend in stock prices) ends.
Religious intolerance will increase.
.Belief in magic will increase.
. Science will be turned to manipulative or malevolent purposes.
.Epidemics will increase in number and severity. Malaria will return to the
U.S. Eventually, DDT will
be re-legalized.
.Films will break new ground in horror, probably with themes that include
suicide and torture.
.Environmentalists will become militant and intention

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.Disney.s family-fare feature cartoons will fall in popularity, and the studio
will stop making them.
.Professional baseball and basketball will suffer difficulties. New record
performances by individuals
will become rare. No team will have a .dynasty. during the bear market. Leagues
will restructure. Attendance
and viewership will fall. Salaries will decrease.
.New brutal sports will be introduced and gain popularity.
.Physical fitness (.working out.) will go out of style.
.The U.S. space program will be shut down.
.Conspiracy theories will become more plentiful, and more people will believe
them.
.People will rate .the future. as increasingly less promising.
.Race relations will become strained and violent.
.The suicide rate will go up.
.Mob violence will break out more often than it did from 1982 to 2000.
.Mass demonstrations, expressing anger with some social situation, will occur.
.Hemlines will fall, and bright colors will go out of style.
.Music sales will slump, and popular music will become somber and/or angry.
.Hedonism will flourish. Pornography will become more bizarre. These trends
will meet with social
and political backlash, as mainstream behavior will simultaneously become more
conservative.
.Popular self-help books will change focus from wealth and self improvement to
surviving hard times
and beating adversaries.
. Cults and other escapist communities will be established.

.Food scares, probably including mad cow disease, will hit the U.S.
.Most restaurants will decline in popularity. .Family-style. traditional fare
and home cooking will
become popular.
.Interest in producing the plays of Shakespeare will wane.
.Anti-gay, racist and xenophobic entities will organize and openly pursue their
agendas.
.Areas of cities will become dangerous places in which street gangs .rule. some
neighborhoods.
.The number of Broadway shows will fall dramatically.
.Disney will close its NYC theater productions, and Times Square will become X-
rated again.
.Well-off people will adopt fashions that conceal rather than accentuate their
wealth.
.Gangsters, pirates and other outlaws will become popular folk heroes.
.Entertainment media will feature fewer heroes and more anti-heroes.
.The Olympic Games will be cancelled at least once, if not terminated
altogether.
.Organized labor will grow and become more active. The number and severity of
strikes will rise.
.Many amusement parks will close.
.The number of coffee shops in the United States will decline substantially.
.Per capita consumption of alcohol and other depressants will increase.
.Public art, such as sculptures and murals, will become ponderous and ugly.
.One or more of the sciences will go through a .paradigm shift..
.Terrible secret activities that we could not even imagine will take place,
some to be revealed only
years or decades later.