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IP: *.crowley.pl 14.02.04, 16:34
"Butterfly on the wheel"? Jesli w ogole cos znaczy.
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    • Gość: KBB Re: Coz znaczy idiom... IP: *.icm.edu.pl / *.icm.edu.pl 14.02.04, 17:43
      It's a quote by Alexander Pope - "Who breaks a butterfly on a wheel?" - meaning
      exaggeration:
      Writing in the 15th Century, Pope was witness to the hideous tortures méted out
      to all kinds of miscreants, breaking the villain's bones on a wheel with an iron
      bar being one of the more inventive. To break a delicate creature like a
      butterfly in such a brutal way as upon a wheel has come to be synonymous with
      applying superabundant effort in the accomplishment of a small matter. A modern,
      if far less gruesome, equivalent would be to use a sledge hammer to crack a nut.

      Also, "Butterfly on a wheel" is the title of an album by The Mission.
      • republican IDIOM? 14.02.04, 18:37
        Gość portalu: KBB napisał(a):

        > It's a quote by Alexander Pope - "Who breaks a butterfly on a wheel?" -
        meaning
        > exaggeration:
        > Writing in the 15th Century, Pope was witness to the hideous tortures méted
        out
        > to all kinds of miscreants, breaking the villain's bones on a wheel with an
        iro
        > n
        > bar being one of the more inventive. To break a delicate creature like a
        > butterfly in such a brutal way as upon a wheel has come to be synonymous with
        > applying superabundant effort in the accomplishment of a small matter. A
        modern
        > ,
        > if far less gruesome, equivalent would be to use a sledge hammer to crack a
        nut
        > .
        >
        > Also, "Butterfly on a wheel" is the title of an album by The Mission.

        The expression above is NOT an idiom, vide:
        "Main Entry: id·i·om
        Pronunciation: 'i-dE-&m
        Function: noun
        Etymology: Middle French & Late Latin; Middle French idiome, from Late Latin
        idioma individual peculiarity of language, from Greek idiOmat-, idiOma, from
        idiousthai to appropriate, from idios"

        As in:
        keep one's chin up: remain brave and confident in a difficult situation;
        don't despair or worry too much.


        • Gość: KBB Re: IDIOM? IP: *.icm.edu.pl / *.icm.edu.pl 14.02.04, 18:55
          I didn't say that it's an idiom, I said that it's a quote. Quotes can still have
          meaning though.
          • republican Re: IDIOM? 14.02.04, 22:06
            Gość portalu: KBB napisał(a):

            > I didn't say that it's an idiom, I said that it's a quote. Quotes can still
            hav
            > e
            > meaning though.

            Well someone did, no offense intended.
            • Gość: KBB Re: IDIOM? IP: *.icm.edu.pl / *.icm.edu.pl 15.02.04, 17:00
              > Well someone did, no offense intended.

              None taken.
        • spiral_architect Re: IDIOM? 16.02.04, 11:56
          > The expression above is NOT an idiom, vide:
          > "Main Entry: id·i·om
          > Pronunciation: 'i-dE-&m
          > Function: noun
          > Etymology: Middle French & Late Latin; Middle French idiome, from Late Latin
          > idioma individual peculiarity of language, from Greek idiOmat-, idiOma, from
          > idiousthai to appropriate, from idios"
          >
          > As in:
          > keep one's chin up: remain brave and confident in a difficult situation;
          > don't despair or worry too much.
          >
          >

          Thank You as well !
      • spiral_architect Re: Coz znaczy idiom... 16.02.04, 10:25

        >
        > Also, "Butterfly on a wheel" is the title of an album by The Mission.

        That's where my question came from. But it's not the title of the album. It's
        title of the song only. This expression/quote appears also in "Soul Asylum"-
        song of band named The Cult. Astbury starts singing with "Who would break a
        butterfly on the wheel"

        Thank You very much for such a precise answer !
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