a puzzle

IP: *.net.autocom.pl 05.06.03, 13:40
i have a puzzle for You:

Can you think of two eight letter English words that each contain all the
vowels?

it's from www.mensa.org.uk/prizepuzzle/index.html

i don't know how to solve it.
    • Gość: chickenShorts Re: a puzzle IP: *.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr 05.06.03, 16:01
      Gość portalu: Thorkell napisał(a):

      > i have a puzzle for You:
      >
      > Can you think of two eight letter English words that each contain all the
      > vowels?
      >
      > it's from www.mensa.org.uk/prizepuzzle/index.html
      >
      > i don't know how to solve it.


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      • Gość: chickenShorts Re: a puzzle IP: *.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr 05.06.03, 16:05
        Sorry! Missed that "8-letter" condition...
        • Gość: chickenShorts Re: a puzzle IP: *.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr 05.06.03, 16:25
          1 - dialogue; 2) - equation !!!
          • butter_fly Re: a puzzle 05.06.03, 21:00
            Here, feel free to choose:

            (with repeating vowels)
            ABOIDEAU
            ABOITEAU
            EULOGIAE

            (no repeating vowels)
            AEQUORIN
            AEROBIUM
            AGOUTIES
            DIALOGUE
            EDACIOUS
            EQUATION
            EULOGIAS
            EUPHORIA
            EXONUMIA
            JALOUSIE
            OUTRAISE
            SAUTOIRE
            SEQUOIAS
            THIOUREA
    • Gość: al Re: a puzzle IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 06.06.03, 09:12
      None of the listed by all of you examples meet the competition conditions, as
      it must be like that (no matter the sense):

      1: IBEARYOU (all the 6 vowels contained in the first word)
      2: IWEARYOU (all the 6 vowels contained in the second word)

      These are of course wrong examples for that reason that they make no sense
      (don't exist as one unit).

      Try again. :)




      • Gość: Thorkell Re: a puzzle IP: *.net.autocom.pl 06.06.03, 15:46
        I think Al is right.Try again,please.
        I still don't know the solution;i browse the dictionary:-/
        I suspect there's something captious in this puzzle-You know,it's from Mensa;-)
        • Gość: chickenShorts Re: a puzzle IP: *.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr 06.06.03, 18:30
          Gość portalu: Thorkell napisał(a):

          > I think Al is right.Try again,please.

          No way! I refuse to consider 'Y' a vowel as it contains two consonants, 'w'
          & 'h'...
          • butter_fly Re: a puzzle 06.06.03, 20:35
            Gość portalu: chickenShorts napisał(a):

            > Gość portalu: Thorkell napisał(a):
            >
            > > I think Al is right.Try again,please.
            >
            > No way! I refuse to consider 'Y' a vowel as it contains two consonants, 'w'
            > & 'h'...


            The vowels are A, E, I, O, and U. All other letters are consonants, except, in
            some cases, the letter Y.

            The letter Y is inherently vacillating in its nature and usage, and
            consequently is sometimes a vowel, sometimes a consonant, depending upon how it
            is used in the name.

            When determining if the Y is a vowel or a consonant, the basic rule is this:
            When the letter serves as a vowel, and in fact sounds like one, it is a vowel.
            The same is true when the Y serves as the only vowel in the syllable. Examples
            of both of these cases are such names as Lynn, Yvonne, Mary, Betty, Elly, and
            Bryan.

            However, if the Y does not provide a separate vowel sound, as when it is
            coupled with another vowel, it is considered a consonant.
            In names such as Maloney or Murray, the Y is a consonant, because the vowel
            sound depends upon the long E in Maloney and the long A in Murray.

            In general, the Y is a consonant when the syllable already has a vowel. Also,
            the Y is considered a consonant when it is used in place of the soft J sound,
            such as in the name Yolanda or Yoda.
            In the names Bryan and Wyatt, the Y is a vowel, because it provides the only
            vowel sound for the first syllable of both names. For both of these names, the
            letter A is part of the second syllable, and therefore does not influence the
            nature of the Y.

            More examples:
            In Sydney, the first Y is a vowel, the second Y is a consonant.

            In Billy, Sylvia, Missy, Kyle, Blythe, Sylvester, and Katy, the Y is a vowel

            In Kay, Yeltsin, May, and Kuykendahl, the Y is a consonant.
            • Gość: al To cut the long story short IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 07.06.03, 22:04
              butter_fly napisała:

              > Gość portalu: chickenShorts napisał(a):
              >
              > ...
              > The vowels are A, E, I, O, and U. All other letters are consonants, except,
              > in some cases, the letter Y.
              > ...

              If you are not able to define the guidelines, every effort to solve this task
              is futile.
              You can find out what in AE & BE is cosidered as vowel from:
              faculty.washington.edu/dillon/PhonResources/vowels.html
              May be Mensa people are anticlockWise.

    • Gość: guest Re: a puzzle IP: *.LING.UPENN.EDU 06.06.03, 23:00
      Gość portalu: Thorkell napisał(a):
      > i have a puzzle for You:
      > Can you think of two eight letter English words that each contain all the
      > vowels?

      I'm sorry but this puzzle is silly. AEOUYI are letters, vowels are SOUNDS and
      there are many more vowels in English than these 6 letters.
      • Gość: Thorkell Re: a puzzle IP: *.net.autocom.pl 07.06.03, 20:18
        Sorry for my ignorance;i didn't know that "y" is not a vowel...

        As somebody wrote before,it's crucial whether we consider letters or sounds.And
        vowels are sounds.For example we have the word "dialogue"-there's a diphthong
        [ai] here,and two vowels:[o]and this "strange"[e](don't know how to type
        it).The same with "equation":in spelling we have letters:e,u,a,i,o;in
        pronunciation we have one vowel:[i] and a diphthong:[ei];
        it's not so easy as in Polish where there's one letter=one sound(sometimes two
        letters=one sound as in "sz",or "h" and "ch").In English letter "a" can mark
        many different sounds.

        So i consider this puzzle stupid;or maybe it has some hidden meaning.
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