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To be Portuguese.

18.04.05, 10:02
Top-of-the-range site about Portugal and Portuguese culture and people.
Please have a look - for those who know the Portuguese reality will be very
fun.

www.portcult.com/index.html


You know you are Portuguese when ...

1. Your mother or grandmother has Maria in her name.

2. You have a rooster napkin holder.

3. Your father or grandfather is called Manuel, José, Antonio, or João.

4. You have crocheted doilies on your kitchen counters, dining room, living
room, bedroom--on all your tables.

5. You decorate your walls with plates.

6. Your house is a mini church with just as may statues of saints and Jesus
as your church itself.

7. You are an immigrant and come home from France, Germany, or Switzerland
every August to see your family and work on the construction of your
retirement home in your village.

8. You're 25 and still living with your parents. (Note: Give yourself 20
extra points if you're married and living with your spouse in your parent's
house!!!)

9. You warn other drivers of police on the highway by flashing your lights,
even though one of the drivers might have just robbed a bank.

10. You baptize your child and send him to catechism even though you might
never go to church except for weddings and funerals.

11. You think all university graduates should be called "Doutor" and like to
be called so if you are one of the chosen few who have managed to finish
college.

12. You park on the sidewalk when necessary, even asking the person standing
there to please move away.

13. You have a mobile phone and spend a small fortune on it, but think twice
about going to the dentist.

14. You have a mother or grandmother who wears black.

15. You spend your holidays in Spain instead of in Portugal because it is
cheaper.

16. If you are a woman, you have been to see a "curandeiro" (healer) or have
had your fortune told.

17. You insist you wouldn't be caught dead buying Spanish olive oil even
though most of the olive oil consumed in Portugal comes from Spain.

18. You laugh at jokes about the Alentejanos but get angry to know that the
same jokes are told in Brazil about the Portuguese.

19. If you live in a rural area during the summer you are bound to hear a
firecracker exploding outside your window. But I guess it is better than
Tony Carrera or Marco Paulo blasting from the village loudspeakers.

20. You think that you can catch a cold with a draft or by sitting in the
spring sun. Cold drinks are also thought to bring on the dreadful "gripe".
And don't let anyone have a shower after eating as something terrible could
happen to them.

21. You get a letter from your doctor saying you can't work because of
an "unspecified, ongoing medical condition" and then go on a two-week holiday.

22. Your child's teacher misses two weeks (because of a letter from his or
her doctor) and you don't complain because you also will use the same doctor
when you have to miss two weeks from your work.

23. If you are from Porto you don't like people from Lisbon and call them
Moors. The reverse is also true but they don't call you a nice word
like "Moor".

24. You think Brazilians speak incorrect Portuguese and will not read a book
written in Brazilian Portuguese.

25. The last major military victory you can remember your country having was
the Battle of Aljubarrota in 1385.

26. You say that the Portuguese, unlike the Spanish, are good at learning
foreign languages.


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    • endereco Re: To be Portuguese. 18.04.05, 11:05
      I like this list, but I don't like the site in general. Its author is an
      American married to a Brazilian, so he has a very particular view of the
      Portuguese & their culture
      • chiara76 Re: To be Portuguese. 18.04.05, 13:47
        I agree with Endereco, the text is funny but I don't like the page of this
        man,either.
        • portulaco Re: To be Portuguese. 18.04.05, 13:58
          Cześć Polacy!

          Exactly what you don't like? The general outlook or his personnal point of view?

          In fact this American is now a Portuguese citizen and as he says he's
          describing the countryside regions where he lives.

          Is it possible that you're idealizing Portugal? Almost everything he describes
          is true - for good and for worse - and I don't think is lying or exagerating.





          • endereco Re: To be Portuguese. 18.04.05, 16:25
            1. First of all, if the guidebook deals with Northern rural Portugal & its
            dwellers, it should be called "Guide to rural Portugal" or sth like this,
            not "guide to Portuguese people" (I don't remember the exact name, but it was
            sth of this kind), because it creates a false image of what the author
            describes
            2. I don't like the paternalistic, "know-it-all" attitude the author adopted
            while writing this guide. He seems to lack a certain feature, which helps to
            create a good description of a foreign culture/country: relativism. For me, the
            guy cannot forget even for a while that he is American & keeps comparing
            everything in Portugal with the American reality. It is not bad if you create a
            site for the Americans only, but if you aim at writing a universal guidebook,
            you should make an effort & put the American perpective a bit aside. The same
            concerns starting many sentences "Many Brazilians think that the Portuguese
            people..." (by "many Brazilians" he means probably his wife & her friends). Is
            it a site about the Portuguese or about the Brazilian opinion on them?
            3. It is very difficult to idealise Portugal, because the Portuguese are among
            the most self-critical societies I have ever known:))) Before I went to
            Portugal, they had painted me such a picture of Portugal that any mentally sane
            individual would be afraid to go there. For God's sake, Portugal is not
            perfect, but it is not a Rwanda, either!:)
            • portulaco Re: To be Portuguese. 19.04.05, 08:29
              Anyway I prefer to live in Poland :-)
              • xavier111 Re: To be Portuguese. 20.04.05, 00:24
                anyway i prefer to live in portugal:)
                • keepersmaid Re: To be Portuguese. 20.04.05, 00:32
                  Me 2 :)
                  • portulaco Re: To be Portuguese. 20.04.05, 09:02
                    Boa sorte...
    • endereco Portugal vs France 21.04.05, 14:29
      I've noticed that the Portuguese cannot stop comparing themselves to other
      nations & in general consider themselves inferior to the others, especially to
      the French & Spaniards.
      In my opinion they simply forget or don't notice that the mere fact that a
      country is richer than another doesn't necesserily mean that everything in the
      richer country is better.
      Having spent somewhat 5 months in Portugal and some 3 in France, i can point
      out the following advantages of Portugal over France:
      1. Portugal is much safer than France.
      2. The Portuguese banking system is far more modern than the French.
      3. When a Portuguese speaks English, it is generally possible to understand
      him/her:)
      4. Though bad,a Portuguese driver will stop when he sees a pedestrian crossing
      the street:)
      5. The Portuguese wines are as good as the French but much cheaper:)
      6. The same for food & restaurants
      7. People have better manners in Portugal:)
      8. The majority of the Portuguese know that colonialism is over:)
      9. Lisbon is cleaner than Paris
      10. The Portuguese are more caring parents
      11. Men are more manly in Portugal:)
      12. Portugal has a much nicer president:)
      13. Portuguese people are not perfect but they are aware of it:)
      14. And last but not least I know many French girls who think that Portuguese
      guys are better kissers than the French:)
      Of course, the above list is subjective and based on my own experiences (except
      for the last point:). I don't want to insult any Frenchmen either, who will
      come across this forum, cause I know many great people among them, but anyway,
      they are so self-confident than they won't feel offended, I think:)
      • portulaco Re: Portugal vs France 21.04.05, 15:17
        I agree with the points you refer. The geographical situation of Portugal makes
        Spain and France "mostly due to emmigration" to be the comparision model.

        I remember when I was a child "once upon the time" ;-) the Portuguese
        emmigrants coming from France in their big Renault's or Peugeot's very proudly
        saying that France is really a great country, where you get rich and full of
        things that you could't find in Portugal, at those times even a color TV was a
        mirage, really.

        Portuguese people have a Love-Hate relationship with their country - this is my
        personnal point of view - though remember that Portuguese are very nacionalist
        and always like to show that they're from Portugal like carrying flags or T-
        shirts with patriotic simbols.

        Since you have the experience of living in my country probably you agree that
        Portuguese the same way they love they can hate as well.

        Maybe that's way is the EU country with highest comsumption of anti-depressives.

        Regarding French I don't even want to say what bad things some of them say from
        our countries and people.

        For last, French women are definatly not the most pretty of Europe, the first
        of course are Polish :-)

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