BALI BOMB FIRE... an exotic dish?

[Gość: bimbo]

..not something out of an Indonesian Take-Away menu, but a stage
killing on a scale comparable with a "bread que bombing in
ex-Yugoslavia".
Any thoughts?

[Gość: Wojtek]

"Any thoughts?"

Plenty.

[perk]

groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&th=5a563c019479a47a&rnum=1
check it out

That really sums it up.

[Gość: bimbo]

"Bush must be longing for it to happen so that he can use it drum up
international support for his attack on Iraq."
Thanks, Perk.

[perk]

English version on Taiwanese story:

www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2002/10/15/1034643430.htm

[Gość: nat]

Yes, many a thought, though one prevailing: you really have to be quite a
monumental bimbo to to find a human tragedy of such proportions a suitable
subject of sick humour.

sick?

[Gość: who's the bimbo?]

"cynical" is the word

who's the bimbo?

[Gość: erwas]

an exotic dish?

erwas

got u all click on it..

[Gość: bimbo]

...and that is the sad thing...
These are the kind of headlines you might see trivializing human
tragedies meant to fuel "cocktails" of bad intentions all over the world!
My point, if I really have to justify it and scoop down to the level, is that
nobody gives a monkey, unless the political correctness forces them to
show their "intelectual and moral superiority"...and this is precisely why
this stupidly titled thread is still being contributed to.....why?!
I mean, why can't we discuss the subject like grown-ups instead of
picking on the words?
I suppose I know the answer here as well.
Because we would not give a **** was it not for the culinary twist...

another plateful

[Gość: bimbo]

Courtesy of "Perk":

"Meanwhile, People First Party legislative leader Shen Chih-hwei (???)
asked the government to assist in the return of Taiwan nationals currently
in Indonesia. She said she would like to commend Premier Yu Shyi-kun
(???) for obtaining advance information on the terrorist attack, but on the
other hand would like to condemn him for not warning the Taiwanese
people to stay away from danger. "

I have to say , it is hard to believe that the other leaders were not aware as
well. This is about creating public pressure.
We hear "Bin Laden" and "al-Qaeda" immediately...and then years later
other shady characters emerge from the then murky and irrelevant past.
The goal has been fulfilled. The means? Never mind.
Now, the 11th Sept has been brought a step closer to Europe via a
rich-kid playground. Bali is somewhat of an up-market Spain equivalent
for a Brit's carefree good times in a cheap exotic location. Not anymore!
There's 15 Brits dead now. Mothers are crying. Tony's gotta burn his
tongue on this hot curry!
Let's bomb Saddam!

[Gość: nat]

You are absolutely right - if it weren't for the culinary twist I probably
would not have paid much attention to your thread, having had the news disected
every which way in the media. If that was purely your way of drawing people's
attention then I do remove my accusations. I do agree with most of your
opinions on the subject as it now appears that western and US agencies did
indeed know about the threat but chose to do ziltch. That is assuming that it
really was the case - for all we know they new nothing and the events just
happened to play into the war mongers hands.
It does indeed feel creepy now that the terror feels closer to home. My
daughter (background, by the way, comfortable rather that affluent) spent some
time in Bali in course of her gap year. Some of her friends are there now. It
is to an extend, a cheap paradise for the rich kids to play, which is why it
must have been perceived as a viable target representing western values.
Whoever is responsible ought to be brought to justice but right now are the
cpeoples of the world capable of administering real, objective justice? Remains
to be seen.

justice?

[Gość: bimbo]

No, justice is not the question here. Whatever little scared "osama" will do
the honours and stand in for the "evil unknown" threat to "Western
Democracy" this time, will clearly be a scape-goat.
This was a little probe. After all it is not coincidental that Kuta happens to
be a Hindu enclave. There's more chili in the masala and the measly
euro-stomach is churning.
This is not a crusade in a Christian or moral sense of the word no more,
this is a cheap and desperate attempt to plant fear closer to home and to
force even the hardest of the sceptics to support the ultimate goal.
Produce, sell, use more weapons. Destroy lives. Take over resourses.
Stay in power. Provide war games for the masses.
During the last episode of the Gulf War, the original one, the first one ever
with the 24hrs global media coverage, the advertising revenues went
raving mad!
Better than football!
It is a sick game and I am not falling for it. Don't want to play.
Did you notice how any young adult male with the looks vaguely
non-Caucassian is often discriminated against and presumed guilty by
the mob in any of the European capital cities threatened by terrorism?

[Gość: nat]

Could the reason for it be that, according to the information in public domain,
not many blond/blue eyed hunks have been spotted among Osama supporters. That
is obviously not to say that these characterictics eliminate one from terrorist
activities. Coincidence?
Either way, run up to Christmas will be a scary time in western shopping
centers/clubs/bars etc. And that is without/in spite of a war against Iraq. I
am inclined to think that a worldwide action is called for, but a great deal of
thinking must happen first.

hunky...

[Gość: bimbo]

..is not the word describing most of the Western world's leaders although,
and this is the sinister twist, they are Osamas's biggest fans!
For he, amongst the other big bandits and criminals like Slobo or
Saddam and few other Mengele-imps reincarnated, or rather the fear of
them, KEEPS THEM IN POWER!!!
Production line media/Hollywood manufactured villains with stereotypical
and predictable features, characteristics and actions are invented for
those of us who prefer NEWS over a soap, but still like a bit of drama.

[Gość: nat]

Hunks or not, do you sincerely believe that all western leaders are so cynical
as to chesrish Osama and his ilk as the support for their right to be?
Personally, I think it's stretching mistrust and contempt just a wee too far.
Power at any price? As much as I despise quite a sizeable bunch of modern day
politicians I believe that at least some of those who really matter do have
some human conscience and basic morals. They were human once before they
embarked on their public careers, and some even remain so.

homo

[Gość: bimbo]

political arena is a bit of a funny place where a few humans are kept as
pets in a little zoo for our entertainment and endearment.
But when the doggy starts barking and biting, we vaccinate , neuter or
"humanely" put to sleep. Political rabis is not tolerated.
And there is the case of Mandela, of course. Don't we just luv him now?
Correct me, if I'm mistaken, but I vaguely remember the word "terrorism"
there, as well.

homo radical

[Gość: bimbo]

take the GreyMan for example torn between Norma and his "currie", an
example of "back to basics". Values?
Maybe Maggie?
All right while she was war mongering in a soft feminine manner, her son
was arms-dealing to the very "agressor".
We have created and armed the saddams of this world, when we needed
them as alies to fight opposing regimes.
But we all know what happens to a paid assasin after he's hit the target.

Because we would not...

[Gość: Wojtek]

One sits here sipping one's coffee trying to ignore the chatter of the ladies
near one's table ... But it's not just a bla, bla... One can hear here what
one heard serious gentlemen speak. One is tempted to join. But then... What is
the point? It's just bimbos talking.

Bimbos we would not...

[Gość: bimbo]

..listen to?
yeah yeah, put a blonde bimbo in a room and look....it gets crowdy!

You'd happily mandate my ass, if I was gonna run for a chair
somewhere...

...it happened before:

Italy, Party of Love, Cicciolina.

[Gość: nat]

You are not seriously suggesting that a day might come when Saddam and Osama
will be received at English court and have London streets named after them.
Hence comparison with Mandela is just a bit far fetched. It's true arms are
sold to whoever is buying, indiscriminately and with no future perspective in
mind. But then, hasn't it always been the case. History teaches us that history
teaches us nothing. At this moment in time however WE are in position to make
history, and ....?

history

[Gość: bimbo]

yes, let's all vote for ...

-...............Homer Simpson, honest and funny

-.............Micky Mouse, lotsadosh, and resided at the White House many a
times b4

-.................Jesus Christ, he loves you..

Which one is it gonna be?

bore you all to death...

[Gość: bimbo]

...but I'm going to get real deep now.
Jesus Christ, not shouting his name out in vain, but bringing him into this
conversation as a.........(!) politician as this is what he was amongst the
other things. A peaceful philosopher for some and a thug revolutionary
inciting the mob to anarchyfor others.
One of the last ones with humanity in mind, he was.....well, we all know
how did he end up?
Or perhaps we should ask his descendants?

notahtall, notahtal...

[Gość: erwas]

you're not boring.
not really.
not very.
notahtahl really.

Gość portalu: bimbo napisał(a):
(concerning Jesus Christ)

> how did he end up?
and that's a capital H in He, bimbo!

He is waiting not much longer.
He is streaching out and getting all pumped-up for the Second Coming.
Bali Balls of Fire, Bali flambeau, Bali slaughter, Bali-ho - get used to it.
belive me, there will be more - before the Rapture.
this time He will be taking no chances. this time He will be OFFICIAL. the full
Jesus! stepping down from Heaven with shafts of light, sound FX (perhaps), with
Our Father's full backing.
Falwell, Robertson, baby Graham, de Lay, and their likes with Bush, Ashcroft,
Rumsfelt and THEIR likes joining all the other real Christians into a swirling
vortex ascending into Heaven, greedily sucking Heaven unto itself after first
probing, then piercing the celestial mantle.
what an unpleasant suprise for the rest of us.
we get to hang out with locust, the Antichrist, and hardline Israelis, till now
God's elect, who foolishly sided with the Christian Right.
you probably think it's all about OIL. fools!

erwas

hell is a state of mind..

[Gość: bimbo]

..and heaven a private island for the chosen few
Armageddon coming?
Fools or not, that was a bit too OILY even for myself ...good though.
I hope you will not end up in one of your visions, Breugel!

[Gość: erwas]

Gość portalu: bimbo napisało :

> ..and heaven a private island for the chosen few

from the perspective of rural America, where gory rupture lusts abound, none of
this "fantasy" is so outlandish. Polish Boziamama cults are liberal,
progressive, New Age frontiers compared to the dark Medieval pits of
superstition of the "world's leading democracy and only remaining superpower."
these philosophies streach their reach to the centers of power in the US. some
religious Jews promote horrors and disasters in their homeland as a means of
encouraging their Messiah to finally make a showing. they are encouraged by the
power weilding Christian Right in the US who see the developments in the Middle
East very much in line with Biblical prophesies guaranteeing their select group
ascent into heaven. total disaster and catastrophy is their aim.
you think swirling vortexes of the self-appointed ascending into heaven is bit
oily? hardly. I toned down my language so as not to puke over the keyboard.
erwas.

leading democracy & superstitions...

[Gość: bimbo]

...heaving? Spill it out,
while I pass some "Desperdicios" around...
I'm listening.

who cares anyway, right?

[Gość: erwas]

Gość portalu: bimbo napisał(a):

> ...heaving? Spill it out,
> while I pass some "Desperdicios" around...
> I'm listening.

it would indeed be a bummer and they were accurately right, of course.

should perhaps keep a sharp lookout the "signs"; just in case. here's a lead
for you: Nahum 2: 4 "the chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall jostle
against one another in the broad ways; they shall seem like torches, they shall
run like lightening". meaning: if traffic gets worse, get ready.

erwas

[Gość: Wojtek]

Gość portalu: bimbo napisał(a):

> yes, let's all vote for ...
>
> -...............Homer Simpson, honest and funny
>
> -.............Micky Mouse, lotsadosh, and resided at the White House many a
> times b4
>
> -.................Jesus Christ, he loves you..
>
> Which one is it gonna be?

Given thus limited choice, got to be Homer SIMPSON!!! He can solve The
Sound Of One Hand Clapping koan.