salary j2ee and C#

[Gość: robbie]

What is the average salary of a day and monthly salary for
1)developers j2ee (java enterprise) with experience or not? in the UK of course:-)
2)developers c# .NET

[Gość: Steve]

Search the internet for jobs. From a few seconds of searching, J2ee development is advertised at between 25,000 and 45,000 pounds a year.

[Gość: Ralph]

I would never EVER hire a software developer not capable of finding such
information on Google in less than 1 minute.
:P

[Gość: pablo londek]

Ralph

As you may know, sometimes it is not that straightforward, what's advertised
does not necessarily will be in your pocket! I think that there is certain
number of factors which _must_ be taken into account:
- dummy jobs : advertised by agencies just to increase the number of applicants,
which has nothing to do with real offers. It usually looks like this: My client
is looking for an experienced developer/programmer with skills:
Java/J2EE/J2SE/C++/C#/Python/Bash ... and so on. Of course salary offered will
be 20% higher than average to convince people to apply. Later on the same agency
will contact and offer "average" or "below-average" salary.
- taxes : from all salaries TAX and national insurance must be deducted! Which
means that you will get less than the actual figure printed!
- cost of living: this subject is a never-ending story. For instance it can cost
from £150 a month to £1500 just for accommodation.
If you want to get a rough idea about salaries I'd suggest visiting
itjobswatch.com + many Polish portals before moving to the UK!

[Gość: Steve]

There are always risks, but many Poles have had the guts to make the leap. Polish computer programming skills currently have a very high reputation world wide. From people in the business I have met, both the opportunities and money in Poland is limited. Ralph's comment and the current economic situation notwithstanding, Robbie could well have a good opportunity in the UK and provide the type of expertise that helps the British government claim that immigrants provide a positive benefit to the UK economy.

Think positive.

[Gość: Pablo londek]

Hi Steve,

First of all I am glad that majority of British Citizens - like you, are showing
their welcoming attitude towards migrating Poles. I always believed that,
despite the historical issues dividing our countries, we always, as nations,
tried to help and support each other.

As you said, I am sure that many experienced Poles will find their own place
somewhere within the UK borders, however, as immigrants we have to be aware that
we are on foreign land. Thus the more questions we will ask before deciding to
move the better perspective we can expect. This also includes preparations which
have to make before migrating.

There are many factors, which are significant when deciding about migrations:
Which place should I go?
How good are my communication skills?
What chances do we have to find a proper job?
Will I accept another opportunity below my expectations?
How will I feel without support of the family and friends?
Will I struggle to live among people of different cultures, languages and religions?
How will I cope without fresh horseradish, smoked sausages, bigos and other
goods, easily available in Poland?

Despite the above, I am sure that majority of Poles, who already took this
decision, feel that it was the right choice. Obviously I am one of them, and
after 3 years spent in London I feel that finally I have fulfilled my dreams and
my aspirations.
Thanks to places like London I know that impossible becomes possible, of course
nothing comes without hard work, sacrifice and openness to other style of living.

Regards
Pawel

[Gość: Steve]

Actually, I'm not welcoming you, I'm saying goodbye. I've gone the other way: I consider Poland to be the better country with a higher quality of life.

All the best on your quest.
Steve

[Gość: Ralph]

Pablo, Robbie's question was about the AVERAGE daily or monthly salary. I don't
know anyone who can tell that from his/her own experience, do you? All we can
do is to find the average advertised salary on the job portals. Example:
www.reed.co.uk/CareerTools/SalaryCalculator.aspx.
A few other useful links:
- tax calculator: listentotaxman.com/
- best job site for programmers: www.jobserve.com/

Most companies put salary ranges in their adverts and initially we should aim
for the lower number. It will change over time though, after a few years in the
UK it is going to be slightly better.

[Gość: Pablo londek]

Ralph

Peter Thomson says that "people are expecting an answer for the wrong question".
In other words there are questions which must be well understood before being
answered.

If I'd be a programmer thinking of relocating to another country I'd have dozens
of questions about profitability of this challenge. Probably I wouldn't be even
aware of some of the questions I'd like to ask; or if I'd have already move to
the UK and gain my experience about finding the right place for me, I'd probably
rephrase some of the already asked questions to get 100% of what I needed at
that time. I am sure you get the point.

[Gość: Pablo londek]

Funny enough I just found a job similar to my prev desciption.
Advertisment which just says: "We are an agency and we are looking for more
candidates with any skills"
I am sure that all UK based developers will have a nice smile on their faces
while reading this ad.

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WEB DEVELOPER - C#/ASP/.NET/HTML/CSS/AJAX/XML/FLASH/PHP - London
London £28-35k doe

WEB DEVELOPER - C#/ASP/.NET/HTML/CSS/AJAX/XML/FLASH/PHP - London A new Web
developer is immediately required to join a leading marketing agency, based in
Central London. The new Web developer will assist in the design and development
of bespoke Internet applications for professional, financial and technology
services as well as internal communication platform. Specialising in Website
design and development, marketing and branding, content management, email
marketing and Intranet and extranets, the new Web developer will be an integral
member of a rapidly growing, industry recognised dynamic digital marketing
agency. The right Web developer must have at least 2 years commercial experience
using HTML, CSS, Javascript, AJAX, Flash and C#, classic ASP, ASP.Net and SQL
2000/5. Experience in PHP and MySql is highly desirable. The ideal Web developer
will have recent industry experience, and must be able to do both front and Back
End Web development. The right Web developer will have a passion for making
continual dynamic and unique contributions to a highly professional and well
established development team. Interview slots are immediately available for the
right Web developer. [view full job]

[Gość: stampus]

Do not look at the earnings! Look at the heart, then you will earn
the most. :)

PS. I hate j2ee, I love c#, nothing will force me to develop in java!