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04.08.05, 23:51
informacja z ambasady Brazyli w Londynie:

- Death of Mr de Menezes

28/07/2005 - Death of Mr de Menezes
PRESS RELEASE
Death of Mr Jean Charles de Menezes in London
Foreign Minister Celso Amorim has received a letter from Foreign Secretary
Jack Straw which makes reference to doubts regarding Mr Jean Charles de
Menezes' immigration status in the UK.

This information contradicts that which had previously been received from the
British authorities.

Regardless of the value of this latest information, the understanding of the
Brazilian Government is that the responsibility of the British authorities
for the tragic death of an innocent and peaceful Brazilian citizen is
unaltered. The information should not, therefore, have any influence on
either the investigations into the tragedy or the measures the British
Government must take so as to provide compensation for Mr de Menezes' family,
which are courses of action the Brazilian Government will continue to follow
closely.

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Source: Ministry for Foreign Relations



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    • misterpee Re: Menezes - specjalna policja 05.08.05, 00:05
      New special forces unit tailed Brazilian

      Richard Norton-Taylor
      Thursday August 4, 2005
      The Guardian

      A new army special forces regiment was involved in the operation that led to
      the killing of an innocent man at Stockwell tube station in south London last
      week, the Guardian can reveal.
      The Special Reconnaissance Regiment, set up in April to help combat
      international terrorism, was deployed in the surveillance operation which led
      to the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes, a Brazilian electrician, on July
      22, according to Whitehall sources.


      • misterpee Re: opinia 05.08.05, 00:47
        wiec to jest kleska co sie dzieje. Zyjemy w czasie terroryzmu i konspiracji .
        Tak zwani terrorysci to niewinni ludzie ktorzy byc moze przyadkowo stali sie
        obiektem manipulacji roznych rzadow, i bezwiednie ida na smierc. Wydaje sie ze
        to mialo miejsce w Londynie. Brazylijczyka zabila specjalna miedzynarodowa
        policja , ktora nie miala nic wspolnego z policja Londynska. Prawdopodobnie
        sadzili ze zabijaja araba i potem przedtawia to jako zwyciestwo nad terrorem.
        Tymczasem ofiara byl katolik, dobrze wychowany z kochajaca rodzina i wieloma
        przyjaciolmi. Oczywiscie sprawa ucichnie; Brazylia nie bedzie chciala zaogniac
        swoich stosunkow z Bushem, Blairem i Sharonem. Rodzina dostanie podobno 580 000
        funtow, moze gora pieniedzy w Brazyli, ale pomyslmy ile wynosiloby
        odszkodowanie za amerykanina , albo Izraelczyka ! suma bylaby pewnie w setkach
        milionow dolarow. Pamietajmy ze tak zwane ofiary pedofili ksiezy katolickich po
        kilkudziesieciu latach otrzymuja odszkodowania w dziesiatkach milionw dolarow,
        kosciol amerykanski stracil kilka miliardow dolarow i to jeszcze nie koniec.
        Oczywiscie te kary nie uderzaja w ksiezy , ale w wiernych, ktorzy straca
        fundusze do prowadzenia szkol, szpitali i akcji charytatywnych. Bogaci beda
        NASI prawnicy!. Atakowane jest spoleczenstwo, i wcale nie chodzi tu o wojne z
        terrorem albo obrone moralnosci. Raczej odwrotnie! Orwell mial wielka wizje!
    • misterpee Re: Jean Charles Menezes - WSWS editorial 05.08.05, 00:21


      Statement of the WSWS Editorial Board
      25 July 2005

      The public state execution of Jean Charles de Menezes in a London subway
      carriage on July 22 marks a watershed.

      England, the country of the Magna Carta, is now one in which innocent civilians
      can be shot dead on the capital’s streets at the discretion of the police,
      without any explanation, much less justification, and with the only outcome
      being a brief statement of regret.

      Eyewitnesses have provided horrific accounts of how the petrified 27-year-old
      Brazilian electrician “looked like a cornered rabbit” as he was pursued by
      three plain-clothes officers into the train carriage, before being pinned to
      the ground and shot five times in the head at point blank range.

      At a press conference afterwards, Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian
      Blair claimed that the killing was “directly linked to the ongoing and
      expanding anti-terrorist operation” following the July 7 bombings of the
      capital’s transport network which killed 56 people, and an apparent failed
      attempt to detonate devices on July 21.

      Not only did Menezes have no connection with the terror attacks, police had no
      grounds to suspect that he might be involved in such crimes, or any others, for
      that matter. That he was seen leaving a house that had been placed under police
      surveillance wearing “suspicious” clothes was enough for police to act as
      judge, jury and executioner.

      Given suggestions that the shooting may not have been carried out by police
      officers at all, but by members of the security forces or the SAS, everyone has
      the right to ask just what type of Orwellian dystopia has been created in
      Blair’s Britain.

      Menezes’ death is not a blameless consequence of the July 7 bombings, as is now
      being claimed. Over the past two weeks, an officially sanctioned climate of
      hysteria and panic has been consciously whipped up, in which the state has been
      given carte blanche.

      The government itself has a vested interest in generating such an atmosphere in
      order to avoid having to answer damaging questions. Whilst police have demanded
      new powers to detain people without charge for up to three months, the
      government has made clear its intention to rush through new legislation,
      including making it a criminal offence to “glorify” or “condone” terrorism,
      with major ramifications for free speech.

      It is under these conditions that it has emerged that the rules governing
      police use of firearms have been officially revised and a de facto shoot-to-
      kill policy secretly adopted.

      Even as Prime Minister Tony Blair insists that emergency measures are not
      directed against “any community” in particular, but solely against those bent
      on terror, the media is filled with demands by so-called “security analysts”
      for all young black and Asian males to be treated with suspicion, in much the
      same way as Irish people in previous decades.

      There is, however, one crucial difference. In March 1988, when the SAS shot
      dead three suspected IRA terrorists in Gibraltar, there were repeated denials
      that the British state had an assassination policy.

      Not so today. Writing in the Daily Mail, before the police admission that they
      had killed an innocent man, Tom Bower opined: “In normal times, yesterday’s
      state execution of a suspect in a Tube train in the middle of the capital would
      have evoked a tidal wave of revulsion and protest.”

      The terror threat, however, had changed all that, he wrote. Britain’s Muslims,
      in particular, would have to accept that “many civil liberties will have to be
      infringed.” Security requirements would now involve the suspension of Habeas
      Corpus, “unexplained arrests,” and even “the more common use of such police
      assassination.”

      Just where are the powers-that-be intending to take Britain next? Already, the
      police have reaffirmed their policy of shoot-to-kill, with Blair’s backing. For
      good reason, many are querying in the wake of Menezes’ shooting whether anyone
      can be considered a legitimate target, just so much “collateral damage” in the
      so-called “war against terror.”

      All those who retain a commitment to democratic rights must reject the
      argument, being hammered out by the political establishment and the media, that
      to draw a connection between Iraq and the July 7 bombings is to “excuse”
      terrorism.

      This spurious charge has been the constant mantra not only of Blair and Foreign
      Secretary Jack Straw. In the US, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman
      claimed that those who pointed the finger of responsibility at the US and
      British governments’ actions in the Middle East were “just one notch less
      despicable than the terrorists.”

      Writing in the Observer July 10, Nick Cohen declared, under the headline, “Face
      Up to the Truth,” that “we all know what was to blame for Thursday’s [July 7]
      murders... and it wasn’t Bush and Blair.”

      Just days after stating that Britain’s foreign policy in the Middle East had
      played a role in creating the conditions for the July 7 attacks, London Mayor
      Ken Livingstone effectively absolved the government and the police for Menezes’
      killing, stating, “This tragedy has added another victim to the toll of deaths
      for which the terrorists bear responsibility.”

      Such cowardice and opportunism are what one has come to expect from
      Livingstone. But it is a matter of fact that both the July 7 bombings and
      Menezes’ killing tragically vindicate the many millions of people in the UK and
      internationally who marched in February 2003 to oppose the war against Iraq.

      Those who continue to claim otherwise are arguing an absurdity. In the
      aftermath of the Second World War, the use of war as a means of achieving
      strategic policy objectives was deemed Nazi Germany’s ultimate crime, from
      which all others—including fascist genocide—inexorably flowed. On these
      grounds, and with British backing, leaders of the Third Reich were hung by
      their necks until they were dead.

      Blair is no less guilty of war crimes and is morally and politically culpable
      for the events in London.

      The overwhelming majority of British people opposed the war against Iraq
      precisely because its catastrophic implications could be foreseen. There was no
      end of warnings that the resulting destabilisation of the Middle East would
      increase the likelihood of terrorist attacks in major metropolitan areas and
      the imposition of greater security measures, with dangerous implications for
      civil liberties.

      Blair dismissed such concerns, famously proclaiming that the essence of
      democracy was the refusal of governments to do what the people demanded. In his
      slavish subservience to US imperialism and the financial interests of British
      capital, the prime minister was determined that no obstacles be placed in the
      way of what he believed would be a triumphant joyride to Iraq’s oilfields on
      the coat-tails of the Bush administration.

      The reality is that the population of the UK is being made to reap the
      whirlwind—both with their lives and the abrogation of their democratic rights—
      of Blair’s criminal negligence.

      As Shakespeare knew only too well, from foul deeds endless tragedy arises. As
      the Bard might have said of July 7 and the day the Brazilian worker was killed:
      This day’s black fate on more days doth depend. (Romeo and Juliet, Act III).
      And what foul deeds this government is responsible for.

      It is a matter of record that the war against Iraq was prepared and
      commissioned on the basis of lies. There was no link between Saddam Huss
      • kropekuk Wraz z Brazylia mozesz UK NAKUKAC :))))))))))))))) 05.08.05, 00:52

    • kropekuk I CZEGO sie rzuca? Zastrzelono barana nie za 05.08.05, 00:51
      niewazna juz studencka wize, ale za to, ze UCIEKAL PRZED POLICJA
      ANTYTERRORYSTYCZNA I ZIGNOROWAL POLECENIE ZATRZYMANIA SIE. A PAZERNA RODZINKE
      JUZ PIENIAZKAMI POCIESZONO - POL MILIONA EURO. Czy te wydrwigrosze chca wiecej?
      Przeciez ow Brazylijczyk, robiacy "na czarno" w UK chocby sie i zesral, to
      nigdy - wraz z cala brazylijska rodzinka - by tej sumki nie zarobil.
      • misterpee Re: kropekuk - super-rasa 05.08.05, 01:28
        ten faszysta pisze jak przekonany o swojej rasowej wyzszosci, niemal jak ten
        ktory jedyny ma prawo do czlowieczenstwa, reszta z nas jest poprostu
        zoologicznym dodatkiem nadajacym sie jedynie do niewolniczej sluzby albo do
        jatki z miesem. Czyja to jest ideologia nienawisci i zaklamania. Kropekuk i
        jego ziomkowie jedno co potrafia to tylko klamstwa, przekrecanie faktow i
        propagowanie swojich zwyrodnialych napasci.
      • you-know-who ? 05.08.05, 02:43
        prosze pana, czy wie pan ze "kuk" w panskiej nazwie oznacza pewne wulgarne slowo,
        a dokladniej h#j, w jezyku polnocnych sasiadow Polski?
        to skojarzenie nasunelo mi sie po przeczytaniu pana postu,
        nie jestem wiec za nie odpowiedzialny.
        • misterpee Re: Nowe prawo deportacyjne w UK 05.08.05, 16:09
          po 7/7 zTony bedzie mial nowe prawo i bedzie mogl deportowac i uwiezic sowich
          przeciwnikow. W USA bedzie podobnie.

          U.K. Institutes New Deportation Measures By ED JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer
          1 hour, 29 minutes ago



          LONDON - Foreigners who preach hatred, sponsor violence or belong to extremist
          groups could be deported from Britain under strict new measures that Prime
          Minister Tony Blair announced Friday, nearly a month after suicide bombers
          killed 52 people on London's transit system.

          ADVERTISEMENT

          Membership in extremist Islamic groups such as Hizb-ut-Tahrir would become a
          crime under the new measures. The group, which advocates the creation of an
          Islamic state in Central Asia, already is outlawed in several countries.

          Blair said the government also would compile a list of Web sites, bookshops and
          centers that incite hatred and violence. British nationals involved with such
          organizations could face strict penalties. Foreign nationals could be deported,
          he said.

          "They come here and they play by our rules and our way of life," Blair said at
          his monthly news conference. "If they don't, they are going to have to go."

          The government would hold a one-month consultation on new grounds for excluding
          and deporting people from the United Kingdom, he said.

          Britain's ability to deport foreign nationals has been hampered by human rights
          legislation. As a signatory to the European Convention on Human Rights, Britain
          is not allowed to deport people to a country where they may face torture or
          death.

          The British government has been seeking assurances from several countries —
          including Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt — for suspects to be protected against
          inhumane treatment if deported. The government has already reached an agreement
          with Jordan.

          Britain was seeking assurances from about 10 countries, and Blair said he had
          constructive talks with leaders of Algeria and Lebanon on Thursday. The
          government was prepared to amend human rights legislation if legal challenges
          arose from the new deportation measures, he said.

          Blair said anyone linked with terrorism could be refused asylum, and the new
          measures make it easier for the government to strip extremists of dual
          citizenship.

          The government also was considering a request from police and security services
          to hold terror suspects for three months without charge. The current time limit
          is 14 days.

          A spokesman for Hizb ut Tahrir Britain, Imran Waheed, said Blair's comments
          were "most unjust," and the group would fight any ban through the courts.

          "Hizb ut Tahrir is a nonviolent political party," he said. "Our members are all
          for political expression, not for violence."

          Blair said the government will consult with Muslim leaders on how to close
          mosques "used as a center for fomenting extremism" and would draw up a list of
          foreign Islamic clerics "not suitable to preach who will be excluded from
          Britain."

          "We will establish, with the Muslim community, a commission to advise on how,
          consistent with people's complete freedom to worship in the way they want, and
          to follow their own religion and culture, there is better integration of those
          parts of the community presently inadequately integrated," Blair said.

          The prime minister dismissed a message from the al-Qaida terror network
          broadcast Thursday that linked the London bombings to Britain's involvement in
          the Iraq war.

          Terror attacks by four suspected suicide bombers on July 7 killed 56 people,
          including the four bombers. There were no casualties in bombings two weeks
          later on July 21 — attacks that also targeted three subways and a double-decker
          bus.

          Police have not established firm links between the London bombings and al-
          Qaida, or between the two sets of bombings.

          Police believe they have in custody the four attackers from July 21. One
          reportedly said the attacks were fueled by Britain's involvement in Iraq.

          In a message broadcast Thursday on the pan-Arab satellite channel Al-Jazeera,
          al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri warned Britons and blamed Blair.

          "Blair has brought to you destruction in central London, and he will bring more
          of that, God willing," al-Zawahri said.

          He did not claim responsibility for the attacks.

          Blair said it was impossible to negotiate with al-Qaida leaders.

          "You only have to read the demands coming from al-Qaida to realize there is no
          compromise possible with these people," Blair said.



          • misterpee Re: Ofiara i zgoda Lula 07.08.05, 04:48
            Prezydent Lula zgodzil sie ze nie bedzie niezaleznego dochodzenia w sprawie
            zabojstwa Jean Charles Menenez. Czyli taki byl nacisk Blaira, czyli Blair
            przyznaje ze mordu dokonala policja. Poniewaz nie byla to policja Londynska a
            odzialy miedzynarodowe jakiejs policji, dochodzenia moglyby wykryc kto ta
            policja dowodzi. Sprawa ucichnie i czekajmy na nowe ofiary tego samego gangu.
    • misterpee Re: Emocje w Gonzaga, minas Gerais 07.08.05, 04:59
      Emoção em Gonzaga, Minas Gerais






      O corpo de Jean Charles de Menezes - o brasileiro morto pela polícia britânica -
      chegou hoje ao Brasil. E foi recebido com emoção pelos moradores da cidade de
      Gonzaga, Minas, onde ele nasceu e será enterrado.



      A pequena cidade onde Jean nasceu acordou cedo para as homenagens. Nas sacadas,
      sinais de luto e bandeiras do Brasil.

      “Ele era um brasileiro, um trabalhador, um lutador, nada mais digno que
      homenagear ele com uma bandeira do Brasil”, diz a dona de casa Rosângela
      Ferreira.

      “Aqui a gente é igual a uma família, a dor de um é a dor de todos”, afirma a
      aposentada Maria José Carvalho.

      Muitas faixas foram espalhadas pela cidade. O corpo do deixou Londres ontem à
      noite, passou por São Paulo e às 22h30 chegou a Governador Valadares. O caixão
      foi recebido pela família, levado até o carro do Corpo de Bombeiros e coberto
      com a bandeira do Brasil.

      “Que não caia no esquecimento o que aconteceu com o meu primo”, pede a prima de
      Jean.

      Logo depois, começou a carreata. Noventa quilômetros de cortejo até Gonzaga. No
      caminho, o hino nacional foi tocado muitas vezes.

      Os pais, muito abatidos, preferiram ficar longe da multidão. A mãe, dona Maria,
      precisou ser amparada para entrar na igreja para onde o corpo foi levado. A
      Praça da Matiz estava lotada. Balões coloriram o céu de Gonzaga.

      Emoção também dentro da igreja. Uma fila que não terminou durante a tarde.
      Segundo a polícia, mais de dez mil pessoas de Gonzaga e das cidades vizinhas
      foram ao velório.

      “É triste pra família, pros amigos, pra todo o Brasil”, diz uma amiga.

      A avó de Jean Charles disse que hoje é um dos dias mais tristes dos seus 77
      anos.

      “Me doeu muito e ainda está doendo. Nem sei quando vai sair isso de mim”, diz
      ela.

      Claudilene foi amiga de infância de Jean. Viajou 15 horas de ônibus pra
      despedida.

      “Pegar o ônibus, vir, é tão pouco. Se a gente pudesse fazer mais”, lamenta.

      Quando chega perto do caixão, não se controla. Como ela, milhares de pessoas
      levaram solidariedade para a família. Um dia de homenagens e também de
      manifestações.

      O enterro de Jean Charles será amanhã, às 15h. A prefeitura de Gonzaga decretou
      feriado municipal.


      • misterpee Re: menezes - nowe szczegoly morderstwa 11.08.05, 18:05
        www.wsws.org/articles/2005/aug2005/mene-a08.shtml
    • misterpee Re: Jean Charles Menezes - Gonzaga, Minas gerais 07.08.05, 05:02
      encarta.msn.com/map_701568828/Gonzaga_(Brazil).html
    • misterpee Re: Jean Charles Menezes - rozpacz matki 07.08.05, 05:07
      www.alertnet.org/thenews/pictures/GOZ05D.htm
    • misterpee Re: Jean Charles Menezes - zgjecia z pogrzebu 07.08.05, 05:11
      about.reuters.com/pictures/galleries/Story.aspx?gallery=News&story=632582348597579171
    • misterpee Re: Jean Charles Menezes - ich wojna, nasi zmarli 07.08.05, 05:15
      colombia.indymedia.org/news/2005/07/28626_comment.php
    • misterpee Re: inna ofiara z Brazyli i Sergio Vieira de Mello 07.08.05, 05:30
      Sergio Vieira de Mello
      Victim of Terror or US Foreign Policy?
      By MARJORIE COHN

      But for George W. Bush's illegal and misguided war on Iraq, Sergio Vieira de
      Mello, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, would be alive
      today. Mr. de Mello devoted most of his life to the U.N.'s mission to protect
      human rights and achieve international peace and security. He served in some of
      the toughest trouble spots in the world, including Lebanon, East Timor,
      Yugoslavia, Peru, Bangladesh, Cyprus, Sudan, Cambodia and Mozambique.

      Sergio Vieira de Mello went to Iraq at the request of U.N. Secretary General
      Kofi Annan for a four-month humanitarian commitment. One month short of his
      return to Geneva, Mr. de Mello was buried alive in rubble from a suicide truck
      bomber who targeted the United Nations in Baghdad.

      Ignoring the pleas of millions of people around the world and most of the
      United Nations members, Bush had persisted in his march to war. Contrary to
      Bush's assertions, Saddam Hussein never posed an imminent threat to the United
      States. Until Bush unleashed "almost biblical" firepower on Iraq, al Qaeda was
      not operating there. Yet since the U.S./U.K. became the occupying power, Iraq
      has become fertile ground for outside jihadis.

      Many Saudi Arabian Islamists have crossed the border into Iraq to prepare for a
      holy war against the U.S./U.K. forces, according to The Financial Times. The
      Arab satellite television channel al-Arabiya broadcast a statement purportedly
      from al Qaeda, which urged Muslims around the world to travel to Iraq to fight
      the U.S. occupation, and claimed that recent attacks on U.S. forces had been
      carried out by jihadis.

      The blast that killed Mr. de Mello and 19 others, and wounded more than 100 in
      the U.N. compound in Baghdad Tuesday, was likely the handiwork of the same
      forces that bombed the Jordanian embassy in Baghdad 12 days before, killing 11
      people. Osama bin Laden has long decried the United States' role in the first
      Gulf War, the punishing sanctions against the people of Iraq, and the United
      Nations for "supporting the oppressive, tyrannical and arrogant America [in
      Afghanistan] against those oppressed who have emerged from a ferocious war at
      the hands of the Soviet Union."

      In the twisted minds of the terrorists who likely executed the worst attack on
      a U.N. civilian operation in its 58-year history, the United States and the
      United Nations are linked. Yet Bush's new doctrine of "preemptive war" is a
      clear violation of the U.N. Charter. And in spite of intense pressure by Bush,
      including threats and bribes, the members of the Security Council refused to
      hand him a resolution sanctioning his war on Iraq. Bush accused the United
      Nations of becoming "irrelevant."

      When he was sent to Baghdad, it was Sergio de Mello's dream "to assist the
      Iraqi people and those responsible for the administration of this land to
      achieve freedom, the possibility of managing their own destiny and determining
      their own future." He empathized with the Iraqi people who resented the foreign
      occupiers. "It is traumatic," he said. "It must be one of the most humiliating
      periods in their history. Who would like to see their country occupied?" He
      wanted "to make sure that the interests of the Iraqi people come first" as they
      rebuild their country.

      Sergio de Mello's death is an unspeakable tragedy for the cause of world
      peace. "I can think of no one we could less afford to spare," observed Kofi
      Annan. And Salim Lone, Mr. de Mello's spokesman in Baghdad, said, "He was a
      wonderful guy. He was the U.N. in a way." Mr. Lone added, "I grieve most of all
      for the people of Iraq because he was really the man who could have helped
      bring about an end to the occupation. An end to the trauma the people of Iraq
      have suffered for so long."

      We must emerge from this tragedy by redoubling our support for the United
      Nations. As Iraqis, Americans, and many from other countries continue to die in
      Iraq, Bush must relinquish control of Iraq to the United Nations. It is the
      arrogance of occupation that creates roiling hatred against the occupier. Mr.
      de Mello was confident that Iraqis distinguished between the U.N. and the
      foreign occupiers. The end of the occupation would empower the people of Iraq
      to take control of their own destiny. Then Sergio Vieira de Mello will not have
      died in vain.

      Marjorie Cohn, a professor of law at Thomas Jefferson School of Law in San
      Diego, is executive vice president of the National Lawyers Guild.




      • misterpee Re: Video z londynskiego metra 08.08.05, 04:53
        jak dotad policja nie pokazala nic.


        Demand London Cops
        Show Their Subway
        Video 'Evidence'
        From Dick Fojut
        r.fojut@worldnet.att.net
        8-6-5

        To Ken Livingstone, Mayor of London
        (with copies to 9 British publications)

        From Dick Fojut in Tucson, AZ, USA
        r.fojut@worldnet.att,net

        FOR ONE MONTH NOW, COWARDLY (OR COMPLICIT?) BRITISH AND AMERICAN "NEWS" MEDIA
        HAVE FAILED TO CHALLENGE LONDON'S POLICE TO PRODUCE THEIR 25 MINUTES OF SUBWAY
        CARS VIDEO EVIDENCE SHOWING THE 3 (ALLEGED) MUSLIM BOMBERS!
        We've already asked (but received no reply)...
        NO VIDEO OF THE 3 BOMBERS INSIDE THE LONDON SUBWAY CARS BEFORE THEY BLEW UP?

        www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=3396

        AS WELL AS THE POLICE, WE SHOULD ALSO BE CHALLENGING VERINT, THE ISRAELI
        SECURITY COMPANY MONITORING THE CCTV VIDEOS!

        Since Oct. 2004, awarded a 30 year contract, VERINT, an Israeli Security
        Company, has been "protecting" London's Underground. Staffed with "former"
        Mossad/ Shin Bet "experts" in handling Terror and Bombs, Verint's networked
        video system personnel have been patrolling the London Underground - and
        monitoring the thousands of CCTV cameras.

        ISRAEL SECURITY COMPANY PRIME SUBWAY BOMB SUSPECT? 7-31-5

        www.rense.com/general67/sisr.htm

        If Israeli VERINT and the London Police CANNOT show us ALL the Video (not just
        a doctored frame or two) from INSIDE the subway train cars, we are justified to
        suspect the 3 young Muslims have been FRAMED (to falsely demonize ALL Muslims)!

        The 3 Muslims may be innocent "patsies" who were NOT on the 3 separate trains
        when the bombs detonated - and 7/7 may have been a contrived "False Flag"
        attack by still unidentified criminal TRAITORS! (We were TOLD their 3 bodies
        were blasted to pieces and were unidentifiable - BUT their credit cards,
        drivers licenses, receipts and other identifying PAPER documents survived
        nearby! Apparently their sturdy "documents" had been encased in blast proof,
        steel wallets!)
        -
        Failure to publicly show us ALL the subway cars video, lends credence to the
        following eyewitness testimony from one of the few survivors very close to one
        train explosion....

        THE BOMB WAS UNDER THE TRAIN

        www.rense.com/general67/camb.htm
        www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/region_wide/2005/07/11/
        www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/Commentary/1040.html

        Excerpt only..,. "The policeman said 'mind that hole, that's where the bomb
        was'. The metal was pushed upwards as if the bomb was underneath the train.
        They seem to think the bomb was left in a bag, but I don't remember anybody
        being where the bomb was, or any bag."

        Also, consider the following unbelievable "coincidence." Those clever Muslim
        bombers apparently somehow discovered and timed their terror attacks to
        coincide with a "thousand person" drill planting "fake" bombs....

        LONDON UNDERGROUND BOMBING 'EXERCISES' TOOK PLACE AT SAME TIME AS REAL ATTACK!

        Culpability cover scenario echoes 9/11 wargames
        www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july
        2005/090705bombingexercises.htm

        July 9, 2005
        Excerpt only (reported on British TV)...

        A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an
        exercise for an unnamed company (VERINT?) that revolved around the London
        Underground being bombed at the EXACT same times and locations as happened in
        real life on the morning of July 7th.

        And what about the bombing "mastermind" we're told got away?...

        LONDON 7/7 TERROR SUSPECT LINKED TO BRITISH INTELLIGENCE?

        globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=vi
        ewArticle&code=CHO20050801&articleId=782

        August 1, 2005
        Excerpt only...

        In an interview with Fox News (29 July 2005), intelligence expert John Loftus
        revealed that Haroon Rashid Aswat had connections to the British Secret Service
        MI-6 (emphasis added): "the entire British police are out chasing him, and one
        wing of the British government, MI-6 or the British Secret Service, has been
        hiding him... "

        LOFTUS: Right, Aswat is believed to be the mastermind of all the bombings in
        London. He's a double agent.

        _____

        In conclusion... fellow Americans and Britishers, please also be very, very
        suspicious! Unless you share the perverse fascination for more unjustified wars
        by American broadcast LARDmouths like Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage and
        O'Rielly, DON'T permit Blair and Bush (exposed as monstrous liars about the
        Iraq war), to now frighten and stampede our nations into global war against the
        entire Muslim world.

        DON'T allow these amoral deceivers to exploit the (probable "False Flag") 7/7
        London bombings - and exploit possible additional contrived "False Flag" terror
        attacks INSIDE America
        • misterpee Re: jak zatuszowac przestepstwo 08.08.05, 19:28


          July 30, 2005

          Day 9 of Open Season on those who are “darker than blue”




          “There is nothing patriotic about our pretending that you can love your country
          but despise your government.” – President Bill Clinton

          As more information has come to light on the circumstances surrounding the
          assassination of the unfortunate Brazilian, it is abundantly clear that from
          the moment he stepped out of his apartment building in Tulse Hill to go to his
          job as an electrician, Menazes was a dead man.

          In all likelihood, the real scenario is as follows:

          The block of flats is under surveillance by a team of police no doubt based
          on ‘information received’.

          Menazes leave the building, walks to the bus stop and catches the bus to
          Stockwell tube station, followed by the police surveillance team, where he
          enters the station and contrary to the police reports, he doesn’t vault the
          turnstyle but uses his ticket to go through the turnstyle.

          At this point a plainclothes team take over and follows Menazes into the tube
          station. Menazes makes his way to the Northern line platform where a train is
          in the station with its doors open.

          Menazes runs for the train; the police close in; Menazes stumbles as he enters
          the carriage. The police board the train, jump on the unfortunate Brazilian and
          administer the coup de grace, seven shots to the head and one in the shoulder.

          No doubt this is followed by a triumphant message to their bosses, ‘We got ‘im
          chief!’ Another ‘terrorist’ bites the dust.

          From this point on, it’s downhill for the men in (plainclothes) blue, for on
          identification, they realise that their ‘Islamic terrorist’ is in fact a
          Brazilian. Whoops! Big cock-up. What to do?

          In the meantime, chief London cop, Blair of the Yard in his haste to claim a
          success (no doubt one more notch on his way to collecting his knighthood
          for ‘services rendered to the state’) has already announced that Menazes is
          definitely “directly connected to the terrorist network”.

          The problem now is how to best cover-up the cock-up? From this point on, the
          entire enterprise goes completely pear-shaped.

          In order to justify the murder of Menazes it is necessary to ‘massage’ the
          facts to fit the crime.

          Step 1: Put it about that he was wearing a ‘bulky’ jacket on a warm summer’s
          day whereas in fact, he was wearing a lightweight jeans jacket. Very
          suspicious, for underneath the bulky jacket could be hidden a bomb. In addition
          they imply that his behaviour was ‘suspicious’.

          Step 2: Instead of walking quite normally through the station turnstyle, the
          police allege that he ran into the station and vaulted the turnstyle. The
          police of course, following the scenario laid down by ‘Operation Kratos’ now
          have a ‘licence to kill’.

          Step 3: At this point the ‘hit squad’ take over, who follow him down to the
          station platform. The events from here on until the point at which he enters
          the train and is murdered, are somewhat conjectural but in all likelihood, once
          on the platform Menazes is either warned to stop (police version) and is chased
          by the hit squad, with guns drawn. Menaizes, understandably, seeing that he is
          being chased by three unidentified men with guns, runs for it. Or, seeing the
          train in the station, he runs for it before the doors close, onto the train
          where he stumbles as he boards followed by the hit squad.

          Step 4: Either way, he is chased into the train by the three men who, according
          to Whitby, one of the witnesses, “jump on top of him” and fire several bullets
          into him at point blank range (Whitby said five, another witness said three but
          in fact, according to the police it was eight). Either way, Menazes was dead.

          No doubt the hit squad’s first act is to communicate to their superiors that
          the suspect has been ‘neutralised’. At this point, due to his dark skin it is
          still assumed that Menazes is an ‘Asian’. Had he in fact, been an Asian, no
          doubt the story concocted by the authorities would have been somewhat different
          and given the hysterical atmosphere created around the events of July 7 and the
          preceding day, the ‘Asian man’s’ unfortunate demise would have
          been ‘regrettable’ but understandable. And anyway, who cares about the odd
          Asian biting the dust? The sympathies would have been with the police who are,
          in any case “under severe strain”.

          Meanwhile, Blair of the Yard has already ‘jumped the gun’ so-to-speak and
          announced to the world that the victim was “definitely directly connected to
          the terror network”. This was the first of many errors committed by the state
          that no doubt forced the invention of the story that was subsequently released
          to the press.

          So time for some ‘reverse engineering’, hence we see the ‘bulky coat’,
          the ‘vaulting of the turnstyle’, his ‘suspicious behaviour’, necessitating the
          use of lethal force to ‘protect the lives of the innocent’.

          Finally, the ‘shoot-to-kill’ policy of Operation Kratos is revealed in order to
          take the heat off the cops’ cock-up. Blair and co are in theory, unassailable
          being able to retreat behind the façade of ‘policy’. The propaganda campaign
          kicks in big time.

          The first of many disinformation pieces appear, namely that he might have been
          an ‘illegal alien’, thus justifying him running from the police in an attempt
          to justify the murder. The Home Office initially issues a rigorous denial and
          condemns press speculation on Menazes status in no uncertain terms, but of
          course in line with the tactic of putting out as much ‘chaff’ as possible, the
          thought is planted in the minds of the public regardless of official utterances
          to the contrary.

          Menazes’ status goes through a series of revisions over the following week,
          with yet another story surfacing that the stamp in his passport is “forged”.
          The Home Office refuses to comment. Overall though, the impression is left in
          the public’s mind that there was something ‘dodgy’ about Menazes. It’s all
          grist for the propaganda mill. The mainstream press of course, rush to the
          defence of the police’s actions in total lock-step with official policy on
          state-sanctioned murder.

          The witnesses to the assassination disappear completely. There are no followup
          interviews by our intrepid press. A brief press release is issued by the RMT
          union that the driver of the train, who understandably fled along with everyone
          else when the shots rang out, is chased by the police and has a gun held to his
          head before being released (was he by any chance, ‘darker than blue’ I
          wonder?). I phoned up the RMT and was told that the driver was in fact a member
          of ASLEF, the other transport workers’ union. The only press report on this
          that I could find was in the Morning Star. I attempted to talk to the ASLEF
          press office but to no avail and as far as I know, ASLEF has not commented on
          the event, there is no mention on the ASLEF Website of the incident. No matter,
          it’s merely another ‘sidebar’ in the ‘war on terror’.

          As the days pass, it finally emerges that the story released by the police on
          the events leading up to Menazes’ death is somewhat off the mark but by now,
          the government’s propaganda defensive is in full swing and the actual facts
          disappear under a swathe of justifications issued by the police and the
          government, chiefly of course the ‘shoot to kill’ policy, that
          • misterpee Re: nowe szczegoly mordu - BBC 18.08.05, 00:36
            prawda wychodzi na wierzch. Brazylijczyk juz siedzial na lawce w metrze kiedy
            siepacze policyjni go pchneli i zabili 8 mioma strzalami

            Leak disputes Menezes death story

            An image leaked to ITV shows Mr de Menezes lying dead in a train
            Leaked documents appear to contradict the official account of how police
            mistook a Brazilian man for a suicide bomber and shot him.
            The papers, from the probe into Jean Charles de Menezes' death, and leaked to
            ITV, suggest he was restrained before being shot eight times.

            Mr de Menezes, 27, was killed at Stockwell Tube station on 22 July.

            The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has said it will not
            comment on its investigation.

            Public inquiry


            The documents, including witness statements, also suggest Mr de Menezes did not
            hurdle the barrier at Stockwell tube station and was not wearing a padded
            jacket that could have concealed a bomb, as eyewitness reports previously
            suggested.

            The family of Mr de Menezes has called for a public inquiry into his death.


            The leak suggests the electrician was restrained before shot

            His cousin Allessandro Pereira said: "My family deserve the full truth about
            his murder. The truth cannot be hidden any longer. It has to be made public."

            He said the police should have stopped his cousin before he got to the bus stop
            after leaving home in Tulse Hill. "He would have helped the police," he said.

            "They killed my cousin, they could kill anyone, any English person."

            In a statement, the IPCC said it does not know where the documents came from
            and that its priority was to keep Mr de Menezes family informed.

            'Acting suspiciously'

            The shooting occurred the day after the failed bomb attacks of 21 July.

            The latest documents suggest Mr de Menezes had walked into Stockwell Tube
            station, picked up a free newspaper, walked through ticket barriers, had
            started to run when he saw a train arriving and was sitting down in a train
            when he was shot.

            In the immediate aftermath of the incident, police said Mr de Menezes had been
            acting suspiciously.

            The IPCC made it clear that we would not speculate or release partial
            information about the investigation, and that others should not do so

            IPCC statement

            Despite the eyewitness reports that Mr Menezes had worn a large winter-style
            coat, the leaked version suggested he had in fact worn a denim jacket.

            The leaked version said Mr de Menezes was being restrained by a community
            officer when he was shot by armed police.

            'High security'

            The IPCC would not comment on the details of the leak.

            What sort of society are we living in where we can execute suspects?

            Harriet Wistrich

            The commission said the family "will clearly be distressed that they have
            received information on television concerning his death".

            Its statement added: "The IPCC made it clear that we would not speculate or
            release partial information about the investigation, and that others should not
            do so. That remains the case."

            The commission said it operated a "very high degree of security" on all of its
            investigations.

            'Great embarrassment'

            Harriet Wistrich, solicitor for the family of Mr de Menezes, said the
            information the leaked documents contained was "terrifying".

            She urged the government and police to review the shoot-to-kill policy.

            "What sort of society are we living in where we can execute suspects?" she
            said.

            "First of all it tells us that the information that was first put out, which
            was first reported in the news, is almost entirely wrong and misleading.

            "There was no suggestion that this person was a suspect in any way, that he was
            running from the police".

            She said it also suggested the information given to the pathologist who carried
            out the post-mortem examination on Mr de Menezes was incorrect.

            Former Flying Squad commander John O'Connor told the BBC the leaked report
            would cause "great embarrassment" to Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian
            Blair, adding he would be under pressure to "go".

            He also said it was "very difficult" to blame individuals for the death of Mr
            de Menezes.

            "Simply because it would appear that they were acting on information that this
            was a positive identification of Osman [Hussain], one of the suspect bombers.

            "But had the normal procedures taken place in which a warning is given and
            officers wear specially marked clothing then this young man may not have been
            killed."

            Scotland Yard and the Home Office have so far said it would be inappropriate to
            comment.


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