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"Get thee to a nunnery"

19.01.04, 23:01
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    • emka_1 Re: "Get thee to a nunnery" 19.01.04, 23:18
      paszła w monastyr :)
      • republican Re: "Get thee to a nunnery" to MK 19.01.04, 23:30
        emka_1 napisała:

        > paszła w monastyr :)

        Bolsze spasibo emka
        This literal translation does not convey author's real meaning.
        In those times "nunnery" was synonymous with "House of ill repute" as Roman
        Catholic Church lost its position (and money) in England. Nuns had no choice to
        stay alive...

        Pozdr
        • emka_1 Re: "Get thee to a nunnery" to MK 19.01.04, 23:58
          1."...get thee to a nunnery; why wouldst thou be a breeder of sinners? (...)we
          are arrant knaves all; believe none of us. go thy ways to a nunnery"

          and now? house of ill reputate? :)

          2. not MK, but m, small m:)
          • republican Re: "Get thee to a nunnery" to emka 20.01.04, 05:08
            emka_1 napisała:

            > 1."...get thee to a nunnery; why wouldst thou be a breeder of sinners? (...)we
            > are arrant knaves all; believe none of us. go thy ways to a nunnery"
            >
            > and now? house of ill reputate? :)
            >
            > 2. not MK, but m, small m:)

            Many Shakespearean scholars attribute the meaning I described to Hamlet's words.
            W. Sh.. contemporary, Fletcher writes "There's an old Nunnerie at hand. What's
            that? A bawdy-house."
            Of course there are no absolutes in art, I thought that you might enjoy this
            piece of trivia.
            Best Regards
            R
    • Gość: chris Re: "Get thee to a nunnery" IP: *.icpnet.pl 19.01.04, 23:24
      Szekspir... jego też nie lubię.
      No, chyba że w tłumaczeniu Barańczaka - nawet zabawne.
      ale wszystkie inne tłumaczenia, jak i sam oryginał... brrrrrrrr
      • Gość: willy Re: "Get thee to a nunnery" IP: *.3web.net 20.01.04, 03:38
        chris,
        you are real original here.... brrrrrrrrrr
        • Gość: chris Re: "Get thee to a nunnery" IP: *.icpnet.pl 20.01.04, 14:59
          I am not even trying to be. I guess it may be a depression...
          • Gość: willy Get thee to hamlet IP: *.3web.net 20.01.04, 17:51
            okay, chris, you are excused, but beg you never ever put down shakespeare
            again: in opinion of millions english speakers, he is DA BEST there is from
            poets, and his 'hamlet' has been many times voted DA BEST play/poetic work
            ever written. i can sympathize with you, though, if your english prevents you
            from really enjoying his works. myself, it was 'hamlet' that got me into
            loving that language, and perhaps others could also benefit from such
            exercise, if they applied themselves to it and tried to read a play of his
            twice or thrice. i can promise you this, though: once you discover you love
            william, you will also discover that your english is as good as any other
            native english speaker's.

            lastly, if you benefit from advertising baranczyk's translations, then i must
            congratulate you on this clever strategy employed here earlier by you.

            willy.
            • Gość: Chris Re: Get thee to hamlet IP: *.icpnet.pl 20.01.04, 18:43
              Right Willy, I can't even find the words to tell how happy I am to be forgiven.
              Just kidding...:-)
              Anyway, of course I know that Shakespeare is the GREAT one. I'm not going to
              quarrel. Mind you, I didn't say W.S. is not Great, I only said I don't like
              him. Happens. There are a few more people I don't like though others say I
              should. Here I am with all my faults and imperfections.

              At least I know what I am talking about. I did read Sheakespeare. In English.
              My favourite (if I may use this word here) was 'Makbeth'. Still, I must admit I
              had most fun comparing different translations with the original - in one
              translation something was interesting, in some other boring, and in another one
              funny.

              As you can see I'm not very likely to fall in love with William. But I can't
              say 'I won't...' - you never know.
              • republican Chris and Willy 20.01.04, 23:02
                Would love to hear your learned opinions on the main subject.
                Regards
                R

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