English grammar wanted :)

[balbinka]

Hi! I'm looking for a good grammar and vocabulary book (advanced level).
I also want to buy a good dictionary. Could you recomend me something? I
learn English myself, so it's very important for me :) Thanks!

[nyo]

I like:
Advanced Language Practice by Michael Vince - published by Macmillan Heinemann

And the Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary (English, English)
or Oxford Wordpower (English-Polish)

[Gość: nadja]

Buy "Advanced language practice" written by ... I don't remember ;-)
oh, Michael Vince.
Try it, I think it's great!



n.

[balbinka]

Nyo, nadja, thank you very much! :))

[nyo]

'Grammar and vocabulary for Cambridge Advanced and Proficiency'
is also good, but, it's been mentioned before.

Orange cover - LONgman

[panwacek]

What do you suggest for intermediate student?

[magbak]

THE ONE AND ONLY:

ENGLISH GRAMMAR IN USE by Raymond Murphy (Cambridge University Press)

IT' GREAT!

[Gość: mysia2000]

If you just want to revise grammar I recomend Polish Grammar by SIUDA - just
ask for SIUDA, the yellow one,it's perfect for students with mathematical -
logical approach to learning...but me being a visual type I also liked it.and
it's very cheap

[nyo]

Gość portalu: mysia2000 napisał(a):

> If you just want to revise grammar I recomend Polish Grammar by SIUDA - just
> ask for SIUDA, the yellow one,it's perfect for students with mathematical -
> logical approach to learning...but me being a visual type I also liked it.and
> it's very cheap

CHEAP and unfortunately NASTY!

Like most of the Polish grammars this one contains many mistakes. Usually they
rip off the stuff from an Oxford or Longman publication, modify it abit, and in
doing so screw up.

So in my view this, and every other Polish publication relating to the English
language is best avoided!

[Gość: mysia2000]

nyo napisał:

> Gość portalu: mysia2000 napisał(a):
>
> > If you just want to revise grammar I recomend Polish Grammar by SIUDA - ju
> st
> > ask for SIUDA, the yellow one,it's perfect for students with mathematical
> -
> > logical approach to learning...but me being a visual type I also liked it.
> and
> > it's very cheap
>
> CHEAP and unfortunately NASTY!
>
> Like most of the Polish grammars this one contains many mistakes. Usually
they
> rip off the stuff from an Oxford or Longman publication, modify it abit, and
in
>
> doing so screw up.
>
> So in my view this, and every other Polish publication relating to the
English
> language is best avoided!
can you give me some examplesof mistakes from SIUDA? maybe I didn't spot them
as I didn't cover the whole thing only some parts. I would be really grateful

[Gość: bluetab]

How English Works by Michael Swan , it's greater!!

[nyo]

Michael Swan - he's the man!

As for the inferior Polish grammar - I didn't buy it. I took a look in the
bookshop and spotted several errors in the space of five minutes.

Even if they're cheaper - don't waste your money on a Polish publication.

[Gość: mysia2000]

I love both Swan's grammars - How English Works and The Good Grammar Book -
but I'm not sure if they are so good for self-study -but for teaching -
great!!!

[magbak]

Swan is great. Self-study or class - I like them.

[Gość: Ali]

Why not have a look at Michael McCarthy's "Exploring Grammar in Context" for
some real examples.

[Gość: Ali]

Maybe, but don't you reckon he gets a bit dull? I'd go for old Swanny's "How
English works"

[Gość: Ali]

McCarthy for higher levels and Swanny's "How it works" for Int/ Upper. McCarthy
deals more with spoken grammar and a few interesting distinctions

[magbak]

An interesting 'three way' discussion!!!

[Gość: Ali G]

I agree. Things got a bit confused back there. I can't get to grips with this
forum at all. Anyway, I agree with all 3 things I said.

[Gość: rafi]

magbak napisa?a:

> THE ONE AND ONLY:
>
> ENGLISH GRAMMAR IN USE by Raymond Murphy (Cambridge
University Press)
>
> IT' GREAT!


you arfe absolutely right, man! it`s the best one. also ADVANCED
GRAMMAR IN USE is very good.
and about dictionary... buy only single-lingual one! no fucking eng-pol or
pol-.eng! throw all of them away and start learning! :-)

[Gość: babeta]

English Grammar in Use by Raymond Murphy is the best